Movies: Marvel Cinematic Universe Discussion - Part 4

[AlanHUK]

wonder if they'll push for a spider-man theatre release there now as well, could push it to #3 in all time worldwide gross for a short time before the new avatar takes that spot

 

[Jussi]

 

[beowulf]

Hmm I had heard rumors they were going to quietly bring Quake back with her playing the role. Wonder if that is what she means.

 

[barriers]

Hmm I had heard rumors they were going to quietly bring Quake back with her playing the role. Wonder if that is what she means.

Sounds like it. Maybe a small role or cameo in Secret Invasion or the Marvels?

 

[beowulf]

This douche actually acted like this was a scoop for him. Never heard of him but from some of the tweets he gets sound like he in an incel-far right type?

Welcome Back, Quake! Actress Chloe Bennet Seemingly Confirms Return to Her 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' Role in the MCU - Murphy's Multiverse

Since Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was canceled in 2020 after a seven-season run, fans of the ABC melodrama…

www.murphysmultiverse.com

 

[barriers]

I'm not going to click a link to his site to find out but I'm assuming he left out the part where she called him a loser

 

[beowulf]

I'm not going to click a link to his site to find out but I'm assuming he left out the part where she called him a loser

He actually left her full tweet in and kind of laughed it off.

 

[the squared circle]

Alpha Flight is one of the most diverse teams in the Marvel Universe.

I think it is a no brainer they get some attention soon.

YES PLEASE! I was so proud of Alpha Flight when they came on the scene around 82 or so, haha. I ended up buying the first 40 or 50 issues at a convention about 20 years ago. Why in Gods name did they kill Guardian off so soon?!? He was amazing and probably in my top five characters of all time.

 

[Fripp]

This douche actually acted like this was a scoop for him. Never heard of him but from some of the tweets he gets sound like he in an incel-far right type?

Welcome Back, Quake! Actress Chloe Bennet Seemingly Confirms Return to Her 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' Role in the MCU - Murphy's Multiverse

Since Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was canceled in 2020 after a seven-season run, fans of the ABC melodrama…

www.murphysmultiverse.com

That was really weird. Writing an article about himself.

 

[Pranzo Oltranzista]

I think this goes here:

Stephen Dorff Wants More Than Marvel’s ‘Worthless Garbage’

 

[beowulf]

I think this goes here:

Stephen Dorff Wants More Than Marvel’s ‘Worthless Garbage’

Someone has a huge ego for a B level actor.

 

[Pranzo Oltranzista]

Someone has a huge ego for a B level actor.

Talent-wise, the guy's no B. Check out Backbeat if you haven't. But yeah, reading that is borderline cringe.

 

[beowulf]

Someone has a huge ego for a B level actor.

I should say B level not necessarily talent wise but within the acting industry as compared to an A-List actor if you know what I mean.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

Talent-wise, the guy's no B. Check out Backbeat if you haven't. But yeah, reading that is borderline cringe.

He's pretty fun in the actual Marvel property movie he was in!

 

[Pranzo Oltranzista]

He's pretty fun in the actual Marvel property movie he was in!

I don't think I've seen any of the Blade movies... I might do just that in the next few days.

 

[barriers]

I don't think I've seen any of the Blade movies... I might do just that in the next few days.

Instead of moving onto Blade 3 I'd suggest just watching 2 a second time

 

[Superman33]

For anyone interested, you can click here to access a template Google Drawing I started a while back for ranking the MCU. The preview shows the ranking table, but the "grey space" on the sides contain the 31 released MCU cannon movies on the right and on the left is the 8 MCU TV shows from Disney+ so far. Once you click on "Use Template" you'll be able to click on and slide the titles into the rankings table.

Started this back in 2016 when I was teaching. Two of my colleagues and I had all three of ours on one file to compare our rankings. I also made a Google Sheet with the formula needed to determine the average rankings of each movie and conditionally format it so you could easily see the different "tiers". Essentially each of us had the same 5 movies in blocks with a few outliers here and there. If people share their rankings 1-39 I'll revive the Sheet and produce the updated overall rankings.

I hadn't updated mine since Falcon and the Winter Soldier, so I had some work to do. I try to base my ratings off of rewatchability, what it was like to see the movie the first time as an experience, and "Holy Crap" moments. I might have No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness higher than I think the overall movie is just because of the cool moments those movies provided in introducing us to the Multiverse.
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Posted this over in the Quantumania thread and it was suggested people who frequent this thread might be interested, especially if you're staying out of that thread due to potential spoilers which I will spoil for you, there are definitely free flowing spoilers in there.

 

[Pranzo Oltranzista]

Posted this over in the Quantumania thread and it was suggested people who frequent this thread might be interested, especially if you're staying out of that thread due to potential spoilers which I will spoil for you, there are definitely free flowing spoilers in there.

This is pretty cool - thx. I've played with it a little, but I really just can't... Some of these films are just a blur, and even those I've been rewatching at night lately I can often barely differentiate. It goes from 1. Black Panther to 38. She-Hulk (haven't seen the last Ant-Man yet), but in between, it's quickly impossible.

 

[Dolemite]

I don't think I've seen any of the Blade movies... I might do just that in the next few days.

Blade 3 is literally cinematic crap defined.

 

[Superman33]

This is pretty cool - thx. I've played with it a little, but I really just can't... Some of these films are just a blur, and even those I've been rewatching at night lately I can often barely differentiate. It goes from 1. Black Panther to 38. She-Hulk (haven't seen the last Ant-Man yet), but in between, it's quickly impossible.

It is definitely a task to rank them all.

I used the Fantasy Football tiering strategy, hence the red lines on my list. I start moving the tiles into groups of "Like" and "Didn't Like" and then work on the top end and bottom end first. The middle is where things start to get harder to place, but from my list I figure anything 1-19 I'd be fine rewatching if it is on and 20-39 I'd probably choose something else.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

It is definitely a task to rank them all.

I used the Fantasy Football tiering strategy, hence the red lines on my list. I start moving the tiles into groups of "Like" and "Didn't Like" and then work on the top end and bottom end first. The middle is where things start to get harder to place, but from my list I figure anything 1-19 I'd be fine rewatching if it is on and 20-39 I'd probably choose something else.

I like the tier approach too because there's not a real meaningful difference between the 9th and 14th or 23rd and 27th for example in my mind. And my preferences may shift on any given day so 11 today could be 15 three months from now or whatever. But tiers are pretty solid for me.

I think I have roughly four groupings for the movies. Could probably break down a little further, but this is a pretty solid framework for me. Truly coincidental that it split mostly symmetrically. Wasn't intentional.

There's about 8 that I think are pretty good to great and I'd be happy to rewatch anytime.

There's another 8 that I like and would circle back to eventually. (Fine, but more positive).

There's 7 that are flawed in notable ways but still have some moments. (Fine, but more negative).

Then there's a bottom 8 that are completely forgettable or outright bad.

I haven't fully factored in the TV shows but my guess is that Loki would be in group one, WandaVision in group two and the rest spread out in some way in the bottom half.

 

[beowulf]

Blade 3 is literally cinematic crap defined.

That movie was doomed from the start, when the star and director are not talking and come to blows...not good.

 

[Pranzo Oltranzista]

Blade 3 is literally cinematic crap defined.

I've managed to watch the first 2... if the third one is worst than part 2, that's crap indeed...

 

[Pranzo Oltranzista]

It is definitely a task to rank them all.

I used the Fantasy Football tiering strategy, hence the red lines on my list. I start moving the tiles into groups of "Like" and "Didn't Like" and then work on the top end and bottom end first. The middle is where things start to get harder to place, but from my list I figure anything 1-19 I'd be fine rewatching if it is on and 20-39 I'd probably choose something else.

I like the tier approach too because there's not a real meaningful difference between the 9th and 14th or 23rd and 27th for example in my mind. And my preferences may shift on any given day so 11 today could be 15 three months from now or whatever. But tiers are pretty solid for me.

I think I have roughly four groupings for the movies. Could probably break down a little further, but this is a pretty solid framework for me. Truly coincidental that it split mostly symmetrically. Wasn't intentional.

There's about 8 that I think are pretty good to great and I'd be happy to rewatch anytime.

There's another 8 that I like and would circle back to eventually. (Fine, but more positive).

There's 7 that are flawed in notable ways but still have some moments. (Fine, but more negative).

Then there's a bottom 8 that are completely forgettable or outright bad.

I haven't fully factored in the TV shows but my guess is that Loki would be in group one, WandaVision in group two and the rest spread out in some way in the bottom half.

I am now rewatching Captain 2 and 3 (can't watch the first one, which is lower tier to me, but I realize that my lower tier is a lot larger than yours... I'd count 15 movies and shows that I'd rank lower than The Incredible Hulk, which was barely ok - and I know, last on many lists, something I don't understand).

I'll report when I'm comfortable.

For sure, the Netflix shows (DD, JJ and Punisher) would rank real high on this for me.

 

[Dolemite]

I've managed to watch the first 2... if the third one is worst than part 2, that's crap indeed...

It’s like Green Lantern but much much worse.