Player Discussion Marner

[Arzak]

Okay. Didn't realize that they were sharing. Yeah that's fine, I thought Rielly got stripped of it.

If he takes anything around 12 on a contract extension, he will earn back a lot of public good will. Hope that happens.

I'll have what you are smoking

How is a top 30 player (at best) on $12M salary earning back a lot of public good will?

Asking for a friend.

He is not getting 12 on an open market, only the Leafs/Kyle are stupid enough to pay him $11M.

That's before you consider his pathetic playoff performance.

 

[Racer88]

Okay. Didn't realize that they were sharing. Yeah that's fine, I thought Rielly got stripped of it.

If he takes anything around 12 on a contract extension, he will earn back a lot of public good will. Hope that happens.

Whaaaat. If he takes a small pay cut I doubt that would gain any fan good will

 

[thusk]

Hate to break you the news:

26, 27 year old Matthews 5v5 with Marner last two seasons:
2023: 539 mins, 1.33 g/60
2024: 720 mins, 1.55 g/60

27 year old Matthews with Domi:
2024: 206 mins, 3.19 g/60

22 year old Matthews 5v5 with 40 year old Marleau
2018-2019: 432mins, 1.8 g/60

22 year old Matthews 5v5 with Kasperi Kapanen
2018-2019: 591 mins, 1.52 g/60

22 year old Matthews g/60 5v5 was better with Kapanen and 40 year old Marleau than it has been with Marner the past 2 seasons.

Its actually possible an argument could be made that Matthews is actually a better goal scorer without Marner.

Matthews with Domi was producing at pretty high rate, im totally agree but they was also totally trash defensively together. Matthews allowed pretty close of 2x more goal alongside Domi than anyone else... With Domi its like 3,98 goal/60 against, without its like 2,25

But i'm agree statistically that doesn't go as high than it was in the past but at the same time that coincides at the moment Keefe start to use even more Matthews/Marner against exemple kucherov line, mcdavid line, Mckinnon line... It is a result of their play together or just result of challenge becoming stronger when they are together? I don't have the answer but yeah im agree than their stats offensively was not as good last 2 together

 

[Suntouchable13]

Leafs are stupid if they re-sign him before the playoffs are over. 12+ for a soft playmaking winger that won you zip is insanity.

 

[Antropovsky]

Matthews with Domi was producing at pretty high rate, im totally agree but they was also totally trash defensively together. Matthews allowed pretty close of 2x more goal alongside Domi than anyone else... With Domi its like 3,98 goal/60 against, without its like 2,25

But i'm agree statistically that doesn't go as high than it was in the past but at the same time that coincides at the moment Keefe start to use even more Matthews/Marner against exemple kucherov line, mcdavid line, Mckinnon line... It is a result of their play together or just result of challenge becoming stronger when they are together? I don't have the answer but yeah im agree than their stats offensively was not as good last 2 together

Matthews line w/Domi:
Gf/60: 6:67
Ga/60: 3.77
Difference: +2.90

Matthews line w/Marner:
Gf/60: 3.58
Ga/60: 2.33
Difference: +1.25

If you had a choice of line A, + an additional 8 million to spend vs line B without the extra money, which would you take?

If Marner is an 11 million dollar playmaker/defensive player, shouldnt we see a significant improvement of Matthews with Marner vs others? Especially with 3 Million journeyman Domi?

You wont find a goal scorer with Thornton who didnt improve by quite a bit with Thornton vs without. Also Thornton turned lesser players into much more productive goal scorers. Marner isnt and there is no real track record of him ever doing it.

While as ive shown, Matthews is generally scoring the same with or more with numerous players other than Marner, including Kapanen and 40 year old Marleau.

 

[Nineteen67]

Is Mitchy watching the crowd in Utah?

SLC is pretty nice place.

 

[Roo]

Matthews line w/Domi:
Gf/60: 6:67
Ga/60: 3.77
Difference: +2.90

Matthews line w/Marner:
Gf/60: 3.58
Ga/60: 2.33
Difference: +1.25

If you had a choice of line A, + an additional 8 million to spend vs line B without the extra money, which would you take?

If Marner is an 11 million dollar playmaker/defensive player, shouldnt we see a significant improvement of Matthews with Marner vs others? Especially with 3 Million journeyman Domi?

You wont find a goal scorer with Thornton who didnt improve by quite a bit with Thornton vs without. Also Thornton turned lesser players into much more productive goal scorers. Marner isnt and there is no real track record of him ever doing it.

While as ive shown, Matthews is generally scoring the same with or more with numerous players other than Marner, including Kapanen and 40 year old Marleau.

Very interesting... what is the sample size for games with Matthews-Domi and Matthews-Marner?

And didn't Tavares hit his career high in goals his first season with us, playing with Marner?

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Tre shopping him huge.