Marner haters right now

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I think you people need to relax. Mitch Marner is a great player no doubt, but we’ve all seen enough things with him that are major red flags and ones that don’t help us win. A good five game stretch doesn’t change that. We know he’s going to get his points, he’s paid a top five salary in the league to do that, but nothing this season matters until the playoffs, and that is where Marner truly chokes. To be honest, I’d trade this guy in a heartbeat for a number one defenseman. It would go a long way into helping us win. I’d rather win a cup than have a 95 point winger who folds in the playoffs.
 
Well, he was on the ice tonight for 5 non-empty net goals!!

4 were for LA. And another LA empty-netter just to pad his stats!!

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oooof
 
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To be honest, I’d trade this guy in a heartbeat for a number one defenseman.
Dubas could have drafted a D like Werenski. His cap hit is a lot less than Marner so you could add a piece.

With no Tavares, Marner never gets a huge number of points, and his cap hit is way less.
 
Dubas could have drafted a D like Werenski. His cap hit is a lot less than Marner so you could add a piece.

With no Tavares, Marner never gets a huge number of points, and his cap hit is way less.
with no Tavares he still gets his points like he always has

money , yea he probably gets paid much less since Dubas doesn't go on the ''we vs me'' media campaign , signs him after his second season and he doesn't have JT's contract to shoot for
 
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I heard reports that marner would have signed at a 8.5 mil caphit after his second season but dubas wanted to wait. Another fantastic move by dubie.
Yep, 8.5 x 8

Are the deep thinkers blaming last night on Marner? There were a bunch worse than he was.
 
No he wasn't and not the only one.
Which of the goals are we directly attributing to him? (Other than the setup for Tavares goal.)
There’s isn’t a thread for Matthews nylander or Tavares. I said the same thing about Matthews in the goal scoring thread and even in the PGT.

for us to go far, it has to be these guys doing the work. It’s that saying, we will only go as far as they’ll take us. Hes has still been good over the last 5 games so I’m expecting a bounce back Wednesday
 
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There’s isn’t a thread for Matthews nylander or Tavares. I said the same thing about Matthews in the goal scoring thread and even in the PGT.

for us to go far, it has to be these guys doing the work. It’s that saying, we will only go as far as they’ll take us. Hes has still been good over the last 5 games so I’m expecting a bounce back Wednesday
Weird.
 
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There’s isn’t a thread for Matthews nylander or Tavares. I said the same thing about Matthews in the goal scoring thread and even in the PGT.

for us to go far, it has to be these guys doing the work. It’s that saying, we will only go as far as they’ll take us. Hes has still been good over the last 5 games so I’m expecting a bounce back Wednesday

There have been threads, but we should keep in mind the tiers these guys are in, there are the double digits and then the guy at 7.

And all the players have to play their best, not just marner.

With great reward comes great expectation.
 
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There have been threads, but we should keep in mind the tiers these guys are in, there are the double digits and then the guy at 7.

And all the players have to play their best, not just marner.

With great reward comes great expectation.
fair enough, we need them to set examples. Nylander can have games of being the best player on the ice. Same goes for Tavares
Similarly, Ritchie should look like a 2nd line winger every 5-10 games just like how engvall looks like a 3rd line winger every 5 games.

Marner has been good the last five games, so I’m not too worried about him. It’s nylander and Matthews, they don’t seem to have much chemistry or finish. I’ve said it before but I don’t think they have a 5 v 5 point together. If this continues for a few more games, I’d suggest three lines with nylander on the third with kerfoot as they have chemistry and this gives us 3 scoring lines.

didn’t overpower about the other 3, mainly 2. Because this isn’t a thread for them, didn’t want to take it off the topic
 
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Level of kate lowering. Marner needs a change of scenery. I was happy we drafted him. Preferred when he ran shotgun with Bozak and JVR. He has Kapanen written all over him. Can't stand his attitude and that's not going to change.
 
Marner will have more ups than downs when it comes to regular season and in the end, I still see him as a guy who can score at a PPG + clip in a season regularly. But my gripe with him has been his past 3 years of sub par playoff performance and judging by his constant puck over glass penalty during those past 3 playoff series, I believe the problem is largely mentally and its frustrating watching these unfold after he demanded about 2 mill more than his worth.
 
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There’s isn’t a thread for Matthews nylander or Tavares. I said the same thing about Matthews in the goal scoring thread and even in the PGT.

for us to go far, it has to be these guys doing the work. It’s that saying, we will only go as far as they’ll take us. Hes has still been good over the last 5 games so I’m expecting a bounce back Wednesday
There’s isn’t a thread for Matthews nylander or Tavares. I said the same thing about Matthews in the goal scoring thread and even in the PGT.

for us to go far, it has to be these guys doing the work. It’s that saying, we will only go as far as they’ll take us. Hes has still been good over the last 5 games so I’m expecting a bounce back Wednesday

There was a recent thread about JT where I said he looked cooked and he quickly turned it around. Honestly everyone gets criticism, but the person who seems to get by with less is Matthews. It makes sense. He might be the best player this franchise has ever had. Our 1st overall stud center. Still, he has looked bad to non existent at times but doesn't receive the same vitriol as Mitch.
 
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Dubas could have drafted a D like Werenski. His cap hit is a lot less than Marner so you could add a piece.

With no Tavares, Marner never gets a huge number of points, and his cap hit is way less.

I don’t know who you have been watching. But marner is better at playing defensive hockey than werenski. Train wreck
 
Marner is very fortunate Matthews and Tavares can carry him when he's off which is majority of the time. They usually do a lot of the tough work anyways.
 
Completely agree with you he may get his 95 points but disappears in playoffs is it that he doesn’t get paid in the playoffs is that why he pulls his entitled attitude or is that he just has no heart I take a cup over his 95 points any day of the week
Marner doesn't disappear in the playoffs. If you don't bother to watch the games, just look at his scoring 25 points in 32 games. He should be better, but hasn't disappeared.
 
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One bad game and right away, people starts the let’s trade Marner discussions again.

I am not defending him against the Kings bc he was bad but so was the whole team.

maybe Eichel and Stone will have conflict in Vegas and it ends up trading Marner for Stone plus in the off season, lol.

For real, Marner been playing well, and his plays was one of the reasons for the 5 games win streak.
 
I call no way.
he didn't play with JT the last 2 yrs and produced while Johnny had to have constant excuses made for his declining production

he played with neither JT or AM in his 2nd season here and still paced at a 90pt pace the last half of the season

he was the best player on the Knights with no other future stars , ripped it up and led them to a Mem cup win while the immortal JT constantly shit the bed trying to lead a team anywhere

also , why is it that some fans believe the player who has the puck on his stick constantly is the passenger on the line ? it's like some believe the puck just magically appears out of thin air for JT and AM in a prime scoring spot

and while AM is able to turn a nothing play into a goal JT can't and this idea that JT elevates Marner is pure f***ing non sense
 
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