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I'd give him the 1st best forward money on Toronto given he has won the last 2 scoring races.
Salary Cap: Marner contract signing watch discussion.
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The Leafs shouldn't have to and I'm in no way trying to diminish what Marner has accomplished
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77000 posts and they just keep on getting more ridiculous
Marner is going nowhere
Leafs would like him to sign for at least 9.5
He is asking for Matthews numbers which is 11.1
Do you really think Marner will be traded to save 1.5 million dollars.
If he signs for 10.5 do you really think if that causes a cap crunch that Marner will be traded.
There are lots of players to trade to become cap compliant and Marner 100 per cent will not be one of them
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The Oilers got McDavid to a MUCH better sea than the leafs got Matthews. And it’s a city where players infamously always want out of.
I’m just fed up of the excuses. I think they’re all bullshit anyways. I think the main issue is a dubas is shit at his job.
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Notsince67
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I am beginning to suspect around a 9.8MM x 3 years coming. After 3 years, there will be all kinds angst about why the leafs are so bad at projecting Marner's points. I really don't care. Maximum contract will likely be set around 16.3MM after 3. If the leafs feel they can hold him to 14.3MM in the beginning of his prime, then Marner has established a similar contract to Matthews in the long run. If they can't, Marner will get paid more than Matthews over the 5.
Hate the contract because it is a clear overpay and unprecedented like Matthews but they can hardly claim they are worried he will break the bank after 3 and then turn around and say he isn't worth Matthews money.
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I don't think we're elite even with Marner.
Way too much money wrapped up in non-elite players.
I'd prefer to keep Marner and try to make it work ala the Penguins system (3 massive contracts taking up 40% of the cap), but the consolation prize is $10-12 mil in cap space and 4 1st round picks.
I'm fine with either way it pans out at this point.
Of course, what I would have prefered is Dubas getting all of these players under fair market value. But that ship has long ago sailed. So instead of the leafs being an utterly elite contending team for the next near decade, I'll now be happy being one of those teams that, while not elite, make the playoffs every year and hope for the stars to align. It's better than we've been for the past 15 years... so that's a positive I guess. But a gm that dramatically overpaids their star players will never put together a team with enough depth to be elite.
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Lol. Wrong. The salary cap is to deter the rich teams from spending to buy a team. It has nothing to do with internal team salary. All teams have an internal salary structure. Ours was put out of whack by the signing of JT and Nylander and Mathews contract. Your best players get paid the most. Each teams is structured that way when they negotiate contracts.
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That is the issue. It is our salary structure that is what Marner wants to be measured against. He out performed the highest paid players on the team this year and last season after Jan in actual scoring and ppg. He wants to be compensated the same.
Like I said. If you really think that’s the way it works. Then you wouldn’t need a salary cap. Rich teams would have their own structure. Poor teams would have theirs. They wouldn’t matter.
But that’s not what happens. Because that’s dumb.
You don’t think players look around the league to determine value? Why are people comparing Matthews to mcdavid then? Why did doughty specifically say he was going to meet with Karlson and talk?
Why did Tkachuk talk about Matthews contract and how it would affect him?
Why do players leave as ufas? Can only the top leave?
When you go to arbitration, do you think they only look at their own teams?
Because mike Johnson went on the air and said his comparable was George’s laraque?
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Lewis Gross said he was only using the Leafs salary structure in negotiating Nylander’s contract. Dubas should have held firm, but he didn’t.
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Who cares?
He deserves less money than Marner because MacKinnon got more points than any leaf? What the f***?
Lewis gross can say whatever he wants. Fact is agents don’t just decide what is comparable.
Regardless. Who was he comparing nylander too to get the contract?
Kadri?
He can want that all he wants. But that’s not how the league works.
Players are compared across the league. Not just on your own team
Either way. If he wants to do that fine.
He gets paid as the teams third best forward
Because he is.
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They do get to decide and if the GM agreed he’s all set. As was the case with Nylander.
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Marner will demand as much the other 2 and Dubas will give him 10.916 for 5 yrs.
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So just to be clear. Your take is that the leafs And Lewis just decided to use team comparables that don’t exist.
And Nylander just happened to end up with a cap hit of 8.75 percent. Which was in line with other similar RFA wingers. And Exactly What several models using other teams Rfas
Predicted
That’s what you believe?
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