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Based on TERM , he IS arguably the highest paid player in the league.
As you agree, term affects aav.
Salary Cap: Marner Contract Discussion - Winter is coming
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As you agree, term affects aav.
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CBA rules are minimum no less than 50% of maximum, and no more than 35% year to year variance.
But Meier's contract breaks the 2nd part so I don't know what's up
CBA rules are minimum no less than 50% of maximum, and no more than 35% year to year variance.
But Meier's contract breaks the 2nd part so I don't know what's up
JayfromNB1219
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Pasta? Aho? Marchand? many more I just don't feel like listing them lol
I mean even when they took the contracts they were steals based on what these guys turned into
18leafsfan18
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Within your single post you said Matthews gave nothing up and totally contradicted yourself by saying he gave up 1 mil in cap/aav.
Now, using your exact words and example above, there are only 2 real possibilities:
- Matthews actually gave up more the 1 mil on his AAV by dropping term (I assume you say 1 mil to make his contract look worse).
- Removing term from a contract doesn't affect the AAV by very much (When all the Dubas haters on here love to overrate how much it should drop AAV).
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JayfromNB1219
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18leafsfan18
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Nope. Still Wrong. Makes no sense.
AAV - 3rd in the league
Full Contract $ - Nowhere close to top 10
"Based on term" is a BS notion made up by this board, no evidence behind what term is worth (I know it's less AAV for less term, as I have never argued).
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It'll work, make the numbers dance
But...Marner is lame so who knows. I personally couldn't get this contract done with Marner because I would basically have already said, here is 2-3 contracts at 2-3 years and 7-8 years, let me know when you wanna play, also, based on our cap, X day is our deadline because year 1 inflation makes it an impossible fit after that point.
Hindsight is 20/20.Could have saved a little $$ and cap space had this been done earlier, however lets hope Dubas can get this done
ULF_55
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Nice pace ...
Tavares on the other hand never had more than a 82 game pace of 86 points.
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No contradicting myself. He didn't give up anything because he said I am worth x for 8 years, and instead of Dubas going "Uhh, explain to me how you are worth McDavid money, you haven't won shit", instead he went "Well we can't afford nearly 14M, how about we shorten the length to bring down the number".
Matthews said sure, but I want most of my money up front, all in SB, and I want trade protection in my last year so you can't trade me if I tell you to go f*** yourselves.
Dubas asked him when he could sign.
ULF_55
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Someone explained Meier's contract a few days ago showing why it does not violate the rules. It was very creative and precise. A search should turn that up.
18leafsfan18
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Wow. You made no assumptions there.
Even from this post to your last post:
- You said "Matthews gave up nothing"
- Then in same post "Matthews gave up 1 mil AAV"
- Then this new post 14 mil - 11.6 mil Matthews gave up 2.4 AAV.
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Long term, I question the viability of building your franchise around a guy who has that sort of chip on his shoulder against his own organization and is comparing himself vs his teammates. Bergeron, Marchand, Chara don’t look at Krejci and say “we are all better than that guy. Pay me.” They like their situation, are going to be paid handsomely anyway and are just rolling with it.
This kind of pursuit for respect would be more productive if carried out in the pursuit of excellence.
If Marner wasn’t from the GTA, I don’t know how the public would be tolerating these Alexei Yashin tactics.
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It’s pretty clear that between the Marner Camp and Dreger that there isn’t a lot of rational thinking going on.
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yeah that's probably it
ULF_55
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His reputation is being painted as the type who would pull a Yashin if someone got a better deal than he did.
This may be unfair, but that is happening.
He is in control of that reputation though, and all it would take is to sign a contract where he makes between $24 and $80 million. (depending on term)
Easy.
Is Dreger on Marner's payroll?
He seems to enjoy hyping-up Marner's bargaining position based on little to nothing, unless there's some added incentive.
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Wasn't the number 13 mill x 8?
The rest is not really that abnormal. A lot of high profile players are getting their money up front, usually with heavy or full signing bonuses, and NTC's in their UFA years (the latter given to even mid-tier RFA's in most cases).
That's what happens when you have leverage and are the highest profile RFA in a market with a dozen of the highest profile RFA's in recent memory.
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Well we are paying our number one generational center bases on
Goals he would have scored over an 82 game schedule because he misses 15 to 20 games a year due to injury.
So if we do it for one we have to for the other.
If marner would have played all year with those third line players he would have scored 90 points
You guys love these stats but only when it benefits your agenda.
And we all know what your agenda is.
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