Tribute Marner Appreciation Thread

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Don't get too caught up in the 4 point night. He made some very deft defensive plays after he got out of the penalty box to close that game out which I found very impressive. Kids got a defensive game like a prime Zetterberg.
His game is aging nicely. Feels like a different player from the beginning of the season.
 
No complains ecactly were i think he should be among NHLs top players. Big chance he excede my high expectations when the season is over. Great job.

Hate writing here on the phone, the text disapears got no clue what i am writing.
 
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His game is aging nicely. Feels like a different player from the beginning of the season.

This has been Marner his entire career. The only difference is now he isn’t making as many turn over as he used to early in his career trying to create plays. He’s really understanding there’s a time and place to make a move to create offense.
 
Marner's true test and real appreciation will come based on his inpact in the playoffs.

Matthews scored 60 goals won the Hart. Rocket and Lyndsay in the regular season and what good did it do the Leafs team come playoff time?.

The Conn Smythe is the trophy that every player covets as playoff MVP because that is when appreciation for their impact on winning championships is measured most in appreciation from the fan base.

When I was still young in the 1960s and my favourite player Davey Keon won the Conn Smythe while helping my Leafs win the Stanley Cup is when my admiration and appreciation for my team and fav player were at its highest.

No mess, you can still appreciate his play regardless of the playoff success. The playoff success may make people respect him and his game more. But there’s no denying he is one of the best players in the NHL at the moment and probably the best winger in the game.
 
No mess, you can still appreciate his play regardless of the playoff success. The playoff success may make people respect him and his game more. But there’s no denying he is one of the best players in the NHL at the moment and probably the best winger in the game.
Yup, no denying he is an entertaining and great player to watch, but I'm a Crest-on-the-Front :leafsas opposed to a Name-on-the-Back kind of Sports fan, when supporting my teams.

Thus my true appreciation for individual players comes among teams success towards championships and not just individual success.

When regular season Mitch also becomes playoff Mitch, and when he is deking a goalie out of his jock strap in front of the net, and its not just in 1 of 82 games that earns the Leafs 2 points in the standings and that determines playoff positioning, but rather a part of a playoff game or series win then he will earn my true admiration and appreciation.

The next Leaf player that hoists the Conn Smythe in a :stanley: Cup victory will earn the most appreciation regardless of his regular season point totals. :cheers:

That is not the standard I hold only Marner to but all Leaf players.. As mentioned earlier awesome Auston 60 goal season and Hart trophy as regular season MVP was fun to watch, but in the end other than personal achievement and gratification for Matthews what did is all really achieve? Matthews has only 30 goals this year (1/2 of last years reg totals) and if the Leafs win the Cup this year that will mean a lot more in the big picture of fan appreciation. That was the point of my post you quoted. :)

Regular season performance is only short-term memory appreciation, while playoff success and performance is both memorable and long-term and everlasting.
 
That is not the standard I hold only Marner to but all Leaf players.. As mentioned earlier awesome Auston 60 goal season and Hart trophy as regular season MVP was fun to watch, but in the end other than personal achievement and gratification for Matthews what did is all really achieve? Matthews has only 30 goals this year (1/2 of last years reg totals) and if the Leafs win the Cup this year that will mean a lot more in the big picture of fan appreciation. That was the point of my post you quoted. :)

Regular season performance is only short-term memory appreciation, while playoff success and performance is both memorable and long-term and everlasting.
I totally get what you're saying. Regular season moments fade from my memory before too long but playoff moments, now that's a different story. I still remember very well Doug Gilmour going back and forth behind the net faking out Cujo before scoring the game winner and that was 30 years ago. And I don't have to say anything more about that goal, what team it was against etc. because I think everyone that saw that moment all those years ago remembers it the same way I do.

Last nights goal was so pretty, maybe the prettiest Leaf goal of the season so I will remember it for some time. Will I remember it a year from now though, not sure really, perhaps some vague memory will remain but if he scores a goal like that to win a playoff game and we end up winning the series, that I would probably remember as long as I live.

Hopefully this is the year we finally break through and if we do, Marner is likely to be a big part of it. I just want to win and I don't much care if the wins are ugly or pretty but Marner's playing the best hockey of his life right now, we'll see what happens.
 
Id say marner has been the 6th best player in the league this year

1. Mcdavid
2. Kuch
3. Mack
4. EK
5. Drai
6. Marner

In quantifiable terms Marner is tied for 5th in points by a Winger this season.

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"Best" is subjective and so what makes Marner better than say Matthew Tkachuk or Tage Thompson and David Pastrnak (on +50 goal paces), while Pasta is leading Bruins to a President's trophy and perhaps an all-time best season..

Doesn't mean Marner isn't great as he is currently 8th in NHL scoring, and can't be appreciated, but why is he necessarily better than players with more goals and more points that also play his position?
 
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Id say marner has been the 6th best player in the league this year

1. Mcdavid
2. Kuch
3. Mack
4. EK
5. Drai
6. Marner
Kuch is a freaking beast and whenever people say Marner is the best winger in the league, he's the one that comes to mind right away and I'd say Pasta's up there as well this season. I know I'll get yelled at by the homers but whatever, the way I see it (and I've said it many times before) is that there are 4 wingers on the top tier, they're all pretty close and arguing about who's the best is pointless because they are all so close, and also so different, and the correct answer (assuming there even is one) will be changing from month to month anyway. I'm perfectly content to say that there isn't a winger in the league who's better than Marner and leave it at that.

Marner is a complete player, he's playing the best hockey of his life and I don't think it's some hot streak or WE since he's been on a roll ever since we lost to MTL and I expect him to keep on rolling for the foreseeable future. As good as he's been, I will judge him the same way as every other player on our team - most of the grade is based on how they play in the playoffs. That said, I have all the confidence in the world that he will excel in these playoffs, he was very good last spring and he will be even better this time around and he will earn top marks. GLG!!

Edit - I forgot about Tkachuk.
 
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In quantifiable terms Marner is tied for 5th in points by a Winger this season.















"Best" is subjective and so what makes Marner better than say Matthew Tkachuk or Tage Thompson and David Pastrnak (on +50 goal paces), while Pasta is leading Bruins to a President's trophy and perhaps an all-time best season..







Doesn't mean Marner isn't great as he is currently 8th in NHL scoring, and can't be appreciated, but why is he necessarily better than players with more goals and more points that also play his position?


Id say he is a bit better than tkachuck, pasta and TT because he is a better wo way guy then them


I dont usually care for the defensive impact of a forward much less a winger as i think the defensive impact forwards have is often very overstated to prop up guys like bergeron, towes, richards, kesler etc to make them comparable to guys with 15-30 more pts then them

However marner is only 3-4 pts behind all those guys and is better defensively so i dont think it is to crazy a take to have bim as the 2nd best winger and 6th best player this year
 
Kucherov and Pasta are 1-2 and Mitch is in the mix with Cockroach, Kaprizov and Rantanen.

I thought Thompson was a center? Who knows. Mitch has 10 pointless games to his 18 - and Thompson also has two 6-point games. Same with Robertson, gotta see more.
 
I totally get what you're saying. Regular season moments fade from my memory before too long but playoff moments, now that's a different story. I still remember very well Doug Gilmour going back and forth behind the net faking out Cujo before scoring the game winner and that was 30 years ago. And I don't have to say anything more about that goal, what team it was against etc. because I think everyone that saw that moment all those years ago remembers it the same way I do.

Last nights goal was so pretty, maybe the prettiest Leaf goal of the season so I will remember it for some time. Will I remember it a year from now though, not sure really, perhaps some vague memory will remain but if he scores a goal like that to win a playoff game and we end up winning the series, that I would probably remember as long as I live.

Hopefully this is the year we finally break through and if we do, Marner is likely to be a big part of it. I just want to win and I don't much care if the wins are ugly or pretty but Marner's playing the best hockey of his life right now, we'll see what happens.

Exactly !!!!

Case in point .. . The Leafs won the 1967 Cup and my favourite player Davey Keon won the Conn Smythe as playoff MVP, shortly after George Armstrong shot the puck into an empty net to secure the Cup, and that is my most memorable moment as a Leafs fan that happened 56 years ago.

Not until Lanny McDonald scored in OT in the playoffs in game #7 to eliminate the NYI in 1978 did I have another long-lasting appreciation moment for a Leaf player.

Lanny McDonald had scored some timely goals over his 16-year career. One of his timeliest came on April 29th, 1978, when he buried an overtime winner to eliminate the New York Islanders from the playoffs. He finished that 1977-78 campaign having scored a then career-high 47 goals adding 40 more assists.



I don't remember a single one of those 47 goals Lanny scored in the regular season in 1977-78, but I remember his playoff series winning goal like it was yesterday and not 45 years ago.. It was most memorable also because it was the 1st time the Leafs had won a playoff series in 9 years since 1967, so the appreciation for Leafs advancing is instilled in my memory long-term and everlasting, which is likely true for many Leaf fans around to see that.

With the Leafs not having won a playoff round since 2004 in 19 years and starving for playoff success, then if Marner scores a beauty of goal like last night in the playoffs helping Leafs advance then it will go down with Lanny and Dougie in fan appreciation from me and everyone else and talked about decades later as a long lasting memorable moment..
 
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