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LeafsNation75 said:
I think in the 2018-19 season when Marner and Tavares played together at 5v5, both of them were great for each other, and you can't say one carried the other.

Marner was a reason why Tavares had 47 goals and 88 points in 82 games.

Tavares was a reason why Marner had 94 points in 82 games.
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Exactly. Which is why all I said was 'helped'. I think JT was more the 'driver' of the two that first year, and Mitch is now.
 
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The only question mark in my mind is if he can take the next level forward in the playoffs.

Mitch has been unbelievable thus far. I'm one of the ones who didn't like how he negotiated his current deal, but he is an amazing player to watch and I hope we can re-sign him in a less acrimonious and more positive way.

He could have an incredible legacy here, and could end up one of our most beloved Leafs. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Kawhi, who I'm sure would like a Mulligan on that decision.....
 
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There is this weird phenomena on these boards where great Leafs players have atleast one of these weird dedicated haters who can't stop talking about them.
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The best part, Marner was a rookie the last time this clown actually received one like here. Like read the room, you’re just embarrassing yourself on your island of petty hate.

LeafSteel said:
The only question mark in my mind is if he can take the next level forward in the playoffs.

Mitch has been unbelievable thus far. I'm one of the ones who didn't like how he negotiated his current deal, but he is an amazing player to watch and I hope we can re-sign him in a less acrimonious and more positive way.

He could have an incredible legacy here, and could end up one of our most beloved Leafs. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Kawhi, who I'm sure would like a Mulligan on that decision.....
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It’s fair comment, re playoffs. Also true, he isn’t alone there.
 
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LeafSteel said:
The only question mark in my mind is if he can take the next level forward in the playoffs.

Mitch has been unbelievable thus far. I'm one of the ones who didn't like how he negotiated his current deal, but he is an amazing player to watch and I hope we can re-sign him in a less acrimonious and more positive way.

He could have an incredible legacy here, and could end up one of our most beloved Leafs. Hopefully he doesn't pull a Kawhi, who I'm sure would like a Mulligan on that decision.....
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Indeed - he needs to come up big in the playoffs. Haven't been a fan of his game there
 
Antropovsky said:
You obviously are the delusional own because you have no idea what the troll even means. Because it doesn't fit here. True definition of troll is saying Marner and Gretzky are comparable. That's a troll post.
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Nobody is comparing Mitch to Wayne… it’s just that with hockey IQ… and a significant gap between #1 and the rest… Mitch is above everyone else.

Including Mario, Sid, Mack and McDavid
 
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LeafsNation75 said:
I think in the 2018-19 season when Marner and Tavares played together at 5v5, both of them were great for each other, and you can't say one carried the other.

Marner was a reason why Tavares had 47 goals and 88 points in 82 games.

Tavares was a reason why Marner had 94 points in 82 games.
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Marner was running at a 1.13 ppg pace from December of the prior year until the end when he was put with Kadri...which is a 93 point annualized season.
 
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Jamason said:
Exactly. Which is why all I said was 'helped'. I think JT was more the 'driver' of the two that first year, and Mitch is now.
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Marner already amassed over 90 pts in 82 consecutive regular season games played by the December of the year he started with JT. The driving had started before Tavares donned the blue and white.
 
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The funniest is picking Mitch Marner as the guy to cheer against, tough gig! Pick an Engvall or and Holl, not a guy who makes you look an absolute idiot routinely. It’s so funny, kick me harder lol.
 
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Notsince67 said:
Marner already amassed over 90 pts in 82 consecutive regular season games played by the December of the year he started with JT. The driving had started before Tavares donned the blue and white.
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In his 82 games the year before Tavares joined, he had 69 points.

Looks like you're cherry picking.

Who, in your opinion, was more of a driver that first season together?
 
Jamason said:
In his 82 games the year before Tavares joined, he had 69 points.

Looks like you're cherry picking.

Who, in your opinion, was more of a driver that first season together?
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Cherry picking? Do you know what that means? I pointed out a valid trend as anyone worth their salt in stats would. Just because you don't like it, you don't get to add a piece on to obscure the sample. Marner validly scored over 90 pts in 82 games by December of the year he started with Tavares. He has done so ever since even through shortened seasons...and no that isn't a cherry pick either. It is a statistical fact.
 
WillyC said:
Nobody is comparing Mitch to Wayne… it’s just that with hockey IQ… and a significant gap between #1 and the rest… Mitch is above everyone else.

Including Mario, Sid, Mack and McDavid
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Many ppl in and out of the league have said his hockey iq and vision is the best. Yes better and crosby and mcdavid even. Maybe even gretzky and no this does nit mean he's the best player before yall lose it
 
Jamason said:
In his 82 games the year before Tavares joined, he had 69 points.

Looks like you're cherry picking.

Who, in your opinion, was more of a driver that first season together?
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You nwed yo go back yo yhe year of 2018. He spent half the season with chronic fatigue in mono and a slump and since novemberb2018 he was one of the best players into he w9rld that season. He was killing every team on every line.
 
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Yall are crazy said:
Many ppl in and out of the league have said his hockey iq and vision is the best. Yes better and crosby and mcdavid even. Maybe even gretzky and no this does nit mean he's the best player before yall lose it
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Wayne’s hockey IQ was so much higher than anyone else’s… that’s why they referred to his office being behind the net.

The game plays out in slow motion for guys like Wayne and Mitch.
 
Notsince67 said:
Cherry picking? Do you know what that means? I pointed out a valid trend as anyone worth their salt in stats would. Just because you don't like it, you don't get to add a piece on to obscure the sample. Marner validly scored over 90 pts in 82 games by December of the year he started with Tavares. He has done so ever since even through shortened seasons...and no that isn't a cherry pick either. It is a statistical fact.
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So your 82 games isn't a season, and actually includes a part of the season with Tavares? And that isn't cherry picking?

And you didn't answer my question either.
 
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Jamason said:
So your 82 games isn't a season, and actually includes a part of the season with Tavares? And that isn't cherry picking?

And you didn't answer my question either.
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That isn't cherry picking. YOU made the statement that Marner was being carried. I proved that his scoring trend extended before JT showed up. It was the reason why Marner was asking for 8+ million b4 the season began. He knew JT wouldn't hurt him and it was quite likely he would hit high numbers.
You are attempting a sample size cherry pick by binning the observation earlier to make a pretty dumb point. Marner actually played on the 4th line before moving up to play with Kadri. His numbers were absolutely elite after the transition. Kadri killed it as well but let's just memory hole the moment to appease your stubbornness. Heck...why don't you average Marners 1st 2 years and compare them with his next 2 to prove he needed elite help. Anyone pointing out rookie years is just cherry picking I guess...
 
Notsince67 said:
Cherry picking? Do you know what that means? I pointed out a valid trend as anyone worth their salt in stats would. Just because you don't like it, you don't get to add a piece on to obscure the sample. Marner validly scored over 90 pts in 82 games by December of the year he started with Tavares. He has done so ever since even through shortened seasons...and no that isn't a cherry pick either. It is a statistical fact.
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Tavares paced 91 points in 2014...which is higher than his 88 points with Marner. He also routinely paced near the 88 point pace while with the Islanders while having no star linemates. He had 35 points more than his closest teammate one year and paced that others. He paced 48 goals in 2012 with Matt Moulson and Brad Boyes as top teammates. Is it really that I impressive that he came to Toronto...while playing with a plethora of more skilled players and also provably getting more favorable matchups occasionally considering Matthews was on the other line? The leaf teams probably paced more goals than those Islander teams he played for.

He also had better playoff showing while playing for the Islanders.

If anything Tavares hasn't lived up to his potential here.

Not sure why people keep trying to act like Marner had this incredible effect on Tavares.
 
WillyC said:
Nobody is comparing Mitch to Wayne… it’s just that with hockey IQ… and a significant gap between #1 and the rest… Mitch is above everyone else.

Including Mario, Sid, Mack and McDavid
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You just responded to someone who says Marner might have better IQ than Gretzky! The man who has more assists than the next person has points. Better than Mario...

Better than Gretzky and Mario.... And your complaining that I AM A TROLL!
 
Antropovsky said:
Tavares paced 91 points in 2014...which is higher than his 88 points with Marner. He also routinely paced near the 88 point pace while with the Islanders while having no star linemates. He had 35 points more than his closest teammate one year and paced that others. He paced 48 goals in 2012 with Matt Moulson and Brad Boyes as top teammates. Is it really that I impressive that he came to Toronto...while playing with a plethora of more skilled players and also provably getting more favorable matchups occasionally considering Matthews was on the other line? The leaf teams probably paced more goals than those Islander teams he played for.

He also had better playoff showing while playing for the Islanders.

If anything Tavares hasn't lived up to his potential here.

Not sure why people keep trying to act like Marner had this incredible effect on Tavares.
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Why are you leaving out that Tavares also had 47 goals with the Leafs in the 2018-19 season, which was 9 more than the 38 goals he had with the Islanders in the 2014-15 season.

He also did that with Marner on his line at 5v5.
 
Jamason said:
In his 82 games the year before Tavares joined, he had 69 points.

Looks like you're cherry picking.

Who, in your opinion, was more of a driver that first season together?
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And Matthews had 34 goals and 63 points in 62 games that same year Marner had 69 in 82. Yet he makes only $600, 000 more.
 
LeafsNation75 said:
Why are you leaving out that Tavares also had 47 goals with the Leafs in the 2018-19 season, which was 9 more than the 38 goals he had with the Islanders in the 2014-15 season.

He also did that with Marner on his line at 5v5.
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Why does 9 more goals matter? Points were the same..in fact he had 84 points the years before with the islanders. So he increases his points with Marner by 4 whoop whoop! Tavares put up 84 points on a team that scores 264 and 88 on a team that scored 284... So his productivity actually worsened on Toronto.

Meanwhile Marners increased from 69 to 94 once he lines up with Tavares.
 
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Antropovsky said:
And Matthews had 34 goals and 63 points in 62 games that same year Marner had 69 in 82. Yet he makes only $600, 000 more.
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With the exception of the 5 years he signed for, Matthews contract was similar in $ compared to what Jack Eichel had previously signed for in Buffalo.

So, you can't use Marner's contract as a comparison.

You are also leaving out how Matthews had 40 goals in 82 games during his rookie season, instead of cherry picking his 34 goals and 63 points in 62 games during his second season.
 
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