Tribute Marner Appreciation Thread

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It does take some fortunate bounces to go on these streaks, like the 2 opportunities for the empty net, clicking on the 2nd. opportunity off a pass by everyone's favorite Kerfoot.
When Gretzky set his now impossible mark, goaltending average save percentage was 875. With the accuracy of the kids these days, that mark would be broken by a few guys in todays game.
 
When Gretzky set his now impossible mark, goaltending average save percentage was 875. With the accuracy of the kids these days, that mark would be broken by a few guys in todays game.

Can you imagine some of these kids taking their time machine back to the 60's?
Mind you wooden sticks, and remember those skates?

Said it before, marner is this generation's Keon.

Keon with this new equipment and rules ... that would be nice.

Again, why I just thought marner might get reps at center.

Really, I think he could, same as Nylander could.
 
Can you imagine some of these kids taking their time machine back to the 60's?
Mind you wooden sticks, and remember those skates?

Said it before, marner is this generation's Keon.

Keon with this new equipment and rules ... that would be nice.

Again, why I just thought marner might get reps at center.

Really, I think he could, same as Nylander could.
The game has changed so much that positions no longer have the same duties that they used to. I dont see the cache of a centreman designation except to describe a forward skill level and even that is somewhat nebulous beyond the second line. I'm not sure if you get anything more from the kid playing center and you might actually get less due to faceoff duties he has not practiced in years.
 
The game has changed so much that positions no longer have the same duties that they used to. I dont see the cache of a centreman designation except to describe a forward skill level and even that is somewhat nebulous beyond the second line. I'm not sure if you get anything more from the kid playing center and you might actually get less due to faceoff duties he has not practiced in years.

marner is only 25 and Tavares is 32.

There is lots of time to switch marner to center and moving Tavares to left.

Of course if Matthews leaves ... that's a big hole to fill, and talent wise I don't see the Leafs getting anyone more talented than marner.

I doubt Red took many face-offs on defense.

But agree wingers don't go up and down the wing exclusively, they are permitted cross-overs.
 
Can you imagine some of these kids taking their time machine back to the 60's?
Mind you wooden sticks, and remember those skates?

Said it before, marner is this generation's Keon.

Keon with this new equipment and rules ... that would be nice.

Again, why I just thought marner might get reps at center.

Really, I think he could, same as Nylander could.
I've always thought Marner could play centre, no problem. Marner and Keon are very similar indeed. :)
 
I don't know why people have such a fascination with switching Tavares to wing and Marner or Nylander to center when they work perfectly in the positions they're already playing and have played their entire time in the NHL.
 
I don't know why people have such a fascination with switching Tavares to wing and Marner or Nylander to center when they work perfectly in the positions they're already playing and have played their entire time in the NHL.

Time does not stand still.

Hopefully, marner and Nylander are here long after Tavares is gone.

I'd say odds are extremely long they draft anyone as talented as either in the next 5 years.
 
Time does not stand still.
Hopefully, marner and Nylander are here long after Tavares is gone.
What is that even supposed to mean? Tavares is doing perfectly fine at center, and there's no reason to think that will stop anytime soon. I don't know why people have this desire for centers to switch to wing as they age. Barely anybody does that, and that doesn't really fit Tavares' game.
Hopefully all 3 are here for a long time. If we're in desperate need for a top-6 center at some point in the future, maybe you try it, but we're at least years away from that.
There's certainly no reason for them to play there now.
 
What is that even supposed to mean? Tavares is doing perfectly fine at center, and there's no reason to think that will stop anytime soon. I don't know why people have this desire for centers to switch to wing as they age. Barely anybody does that, and that doesn't really fit Tavares' game.
Hopefully all 3 are here for a long time. If we're in desperate need for a top-6 center at some point in the future, maybe you try it, but we're at least years away from that.
There's certainly no reason for them to play there now.

How long do you think Tavares is going to play?
He's going to retire.
He is going to retire.
He is getting older.
He will get worse.

This is a given.
 
How long do you think Tavares is going to play?
He's going to retire.
He is going to retire.
He is getting older.
He will get worse.
Tavares just turned 32. He is not close to retirement. Eventually he will hit a point where he will start a slow decline, but that has nothing to do with the position he plays.
We have two excellent top-six centers. We don't need to start flipping things around right now for no reason.
 
Tavares just turned 32. He is not close to retirement. Eventually he will hit a point where he will start a slow decline, but that has nothing to do with the position he plays.
We have two excellent top-six centers. We don't need to start flipping things around right now for no reason.

Your perspective on "close" doesn't match mine.
 
Your perspective on "close" doesn't match mine.
He has 2 and a half years left on his current contract, and then is likely to sign another multi-year contract. He's in this league until at least his mid-30s, if not his late 30s. There's no reason to believe he's going to retire anytime soon. And regardless of when you think he's going to retire, we have him right now, so there's no reason to start flipping things around right now for no reason.
 
He has 2 and a half years left on his current contract, and then is likely to sign another multi-year contract. He's in this league until at least his mid-30s, if not his late 30s. There's no reason to believe he's going to retire anytime soon. And regardless of when you think he's going to retire, we have him right now, so there's no reason to start flipping things around right now for no reason.

That time will fly by in a blink.
 
He has 2 and a half years left on his current contract, and then is likely to sign another multi-year contract. He's in this league until at least his mid-30s, if not his late 30s. There's no reason to believe he's going to retire anytime soon. And regardless of when you think he's going to retire, we have him right now, so there's no reason to start flipping things around right now for no reason.
And he should be let to walk and sign for peanuts on the dollar elsewhere like Gio, Spezza, Heatley, Jumbo and other aged mercenaries no longer worth a big ticket.

Until then he's holding Matthews' (or Marner's) C imo.
 
Can you imagine some of these kids taking their time machine back to the 60's?
Mind you wooden sticks, and remember those skates?

Said it before, marner is this generation's Keon.

Keon with this new equipment and rules ... that would be nice.

Again, why I just thought marner might get reps at center.

Really, I think he could, same as Nylander could.
He was drafted as a center and was a center when he won the cup, but the leafs made him back into a winger. He's referred to as a winger that acts like a center. Nylander too

I don't know why people have such a fascination with switching Tavares to wing and Marner or Nylander to center when they work perfectly in the positions they're already playing and have played their entire time in the NHL.
Bc they don't get considered for awards bc they're not centers even though they used to be and play like it. It's like doing 5 jobs without the title of manager and a higher pay bc you're just a entry level position in title
 
He was drafted as a center and was a center when he won the cup, but the leafs made him back into a winger. He's referred to as a winger that acts like a center. Nylander too


Bc they don't get considered for awards bc they're not centers even though they used to be and play like it. It's like doing 5 jobs without the title of manager and a higher pay bc you're just a entry level position in title
He played RW even at London. Think they only listed him at C bc(at that time) they lost out on 3Cs, McD, Eichel and Strome.
Willie always played C till there were AM, Bozak and Kadri at C during his first full season and moved to RW.
 
Bc they don't get considered for awards bc they're not centers even though they used to be and play like it.
I wouldn't worry about awards. Also, if they're going to be overlooked for awards, it's going to be because they're Leafs, not because they're wingers. The skillsets of Marner/Nylander match winger far more than center, and the skillsets of Matthews/Tavares match center far more than winger. No reason to change things.
 
In reference to converting to center, one of marner/Nylander.

Toews on a bottom feeder is still playing center. At a .65 PPG pace. Last year Toews was at .52 PPG.

This is not what you want to see on the Leafs, Tavares with his known skating issue, running at this point pace.

Can make an argument, Toews has no support but would he slide into a 2nd. line spot on the Leafs today? Tavares probably be Hawks 1st. line center.

Optionally, Leafs find enough money to afford a center as talented as Nylander/marner/Tavares. Or perhaps they've drafted one? Any in the system we suspect would be a Tavares replacement when Tavares can't keep up?

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I think marner is smart enough to play center, and face-offs are just a practiced skill.
 
In reference to converting to center, one of marner/Nylander.
Toews on a bottom feeder is still playing center. At a .65 PPG pace. Last year Toews was at .52 PPG.
This is not what you want to see on the Leafs, Tavares with his known skating issue, running at this point pace.
Obviously we don't want Tavares at 0.5 PPG... but he's not at 0.5 PPG. He's hovering close to PPG. And even if he was at 0.5 PPG, him doing that at center or wing makes no difference, so might as well keep people at their optimal positions and at least extract extra things like faceoff value out of Tavares (which involves more than just practice).

In the unlikely scenario that we're incredibly desperate for a 2nd line center in 2025 and have no internal or external options, maybe we try out Marner or Nylander there, but there's no reason to start forcing players who excel on the wing into center positions in 2022 when we already have a center - still signed for at least the next 2 and a half years - in that role already.
 
Obviously we don't want Tavares at 0.5 PPG... but he's not at 0.5 PPG. He's hovering close to PPG. And even if he was at 0.5 PPG, him doing that at center or wing makes no difference, so might as well keep people at their optimal positions and at least extract extra things like faceoff value out of Tavares (which involves more than just practice).

In the unlikely scenario that we're incredibly desperate for a 2nd line center in 2025 and have no internal or external options, maybe we try out Marner or Nylander there, but there's no reason to start forcing players who excel on the wing into center positions in 2022 when we already have a center - still signed for at least the next 2 and a half years - in that role already.

Toews is still signed for 10.5 and I'd have no interest in him being the Leafs 2nd. line center. Being under contract has no bearing on ability.

If Tavares is still around a PPG player, not a problem, if he's regressed to Toews level he's a 3rd. line center.

But perhaps marner doesn't have the ability to be a center?

I just think he does.
 
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