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Knies iT said:
Rindell rocked projected top 5 pick Lambert.

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I watched it like 15 times and I cannot tell if it was dirty. He made contact pretty high on Lambert's blind side, but he kind of turned away as he hit?

Hope Lambert is okay, but nice to see Rindell step up like that.
 
Morgs said:
I watched it like 15 times and I cannot tell if it was dirty. He made contact pretty high on Lambert's blind side, but he kind of turned away as he hit?

Hope Lambert is okay, but nice to see Rindell step up like that.
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Definitely a clean hit imo. Looks like Rindell could've hit him even harder but kind of let up and went backwards into him pretty much. Just one of those weird unfortunate injuries I guess.
 
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Morgs said:
I watched it like 15 times and I cannot tell if it was dirty. He made contact pretty high on Lambert's blind side, but he kind of turned away as he hit?

Hope Lambert is okay, but nice to see Rindell step up like that.
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I think that is a clean hit. It looked more unfortunate than anything really. He didn't necessarily take a healthy run at him to suggest it was predatory in any way. Just looked like he stepped up on a player who wasn't expecting any contact, and jammed him up. Not sure what else you'd expect from Rindell there TBH
 
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LaPlante94 said:
Definitely a clean hit imo. Looks like Rindell could've hit him even harder but kind of let up and went backwards into him pretty much. Just one of those weird unfortunate injuries I guess.
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Twine Tickler said:
I think that is a clean hit. It looked more unfortunate than anything really. He didn't necessarily take a healthy run at him to suggest it was predatory in any way. Just looked like he stepped up on a player who wasn't expecting any contact, and jammed him up. Not sure what else you'd expect from Rindell there TBH
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I think my main issue was that when he turned away at that speed it's so much harder to control your body. I've been in Lamberts position before during one of my many concussions. I would have preferred him to drive through his shoulder instead of using his back, but with no slow motion I can't tell PPOC. Not like he used his elbow or went for his head so I have no issue with it, just feel for Lambert and hope he is okay.
 
Knies iT said:
Rindell rocked projected top 5 pick Lambert.

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Not sure Lambert will be considered a top 5 guy anymore. He is steadily falling down boards since he has struggled to adapt to the pro level in Finland (and has been fairly invisible in international tournaments even though he puts up respectable production), and this injury could possibly knock him out of the 1st round entirely if it is serious enough.
 
Morgs said:
I watched it like 15 times and I cannot tell if it was dirty. He made contact pretty high on Lambert's blind side, but he kind of turned away as he hit?

Hope Lambert is okay, but nice to see Rindell step up like that.
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That’s a clean hit. Lambert needs to protect himself better though, not one bit aware that Lindell was closing in on him. Keep your head on a swivel man.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
Not sure Lambert will be considered a top 5 guy anymore. He is steadily falling down boards since he has struggled to adapt to the pro level in Finland (and has been fairly invisible in international tournaments even though he puts up respectable production), and this injury could possibly knock him out of the 1st round entirely if it is serious enough.
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Next Aatu Raty? Seems like a stretch him falling out of the top-10 though. Guy has had some incredible seasons pre-D0 that are >> Raty.
 
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LeafChief said:
I really wish the Leafs had an additional pick in that second round for Raty. He's looked really good at the WJHC tune-up and Isles camp since being drafted.
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Yeah I think a lot of people (including myself) are going to look stupid on that one. His oiSH% was so pathetically awful, and from waht I saw I thought it was due to lack of finishing/ability. Dude has shown me up so far.
 
Morgs said:
I watched it like 15 times and I cannot tell if it was dirty. He made contact pretty high on Lambert's blind side, but he kind of turned away as he hit?

Hope Lambert is okay, but nice to see Rindell step up like that.
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May have caught him with his right elbow, as much from Lambert's head launching forward as anything. Weird hit.
 
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How nice would it be to have Seth Jarvis in the prospect pool? :( Looks like the Canes may keep him to at least start the year. Thanks Lou
 
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Morgs said:
Next Aatu Raty? Seems like a stretch him falling out of the top-10 though. Guy has had some incredible seasons pre-D0 that are >> Raty.
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Maybe not the next Raty, because Raty probably should not have fallen as far as he did, but if he has a concussion which takes him out for a long time and he can't dominate, he could drop a lot.

His resume is good, but it is not good enough for it to keep him in the upper echelons in this draft without a strong DY, and an injury just complicates things even more.

I have already seen a few places which are putting Joakim Kemell, his teammate, ahead of him. Kemell is a PPG (10 points in 10 games) right now. Even before that injury, Lambert only had 1 point in 9 games. And I also know people felt like Lambert was extremely quiet in the U18's while guys like Yurov, Miroshnichenko, etc. looked a lot more dangerous.
 
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DuncanMacpherson said:
No he didn’t, cap hit was high but salary was low, only one year left on the deal. Budget team not pressed against the cap could have taken him on for a 2nd
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You think Dubas actively and purposely chose a trade where had he to give up a 1st rounder instead of a 2nd round pick? You really think he did that on purpose? You can hate him all you want and the way he does business, but he's not that dumb... come on.

It's quite clear he had no choice. Marleau didn't want to play for any other team than SJS but they were capped out, so one team was willing to buy him out. That buy out was not cheap.
 
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DuncanMacpherson said:
No he didn’t, cap hit was high but salary was low, only one year left on the deal. Budget team not pressed against the cap could have taken him on for a 2nd
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Yeah, budget teams love to take on "low" 4 million dollar cash expenditures in the off season.
 
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SprDaVE said:
You think Dubas actively and purposely chose a trade where had he to give up a 1st rounder instead of a 2nd round pick? You really think he did that on purpose? You can hate him all you want and the way he does business, but he's not that dumb... come on.

It's quite clear he had no choice. Marleau didn't want to play for any other team than SJS but they were capped out, so one team was willing to buy him out. That buy out was not cheap.
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I heard that Arizona was willing to do it for a 6th rounder but Dubas preferred Carolina to buy him out and paid a 1st to get it done
 
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SprDaVE said:
You think Dubas actively and purposely chose a trade where had he to give up a 1st rounder instead of a 2nd round pick? You really think he did that on purpose? You can hate him all you want and the way he does business, but he's not that dumb... come on.

It's quite clear he had no choice. Marleau didn't want to play for any other team than SJS but they were capped out, so one team was willing to buy him out. That buy out was not cheap.
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I don’t think he chose to give up a 1st over a 2nd I think he didn’t put in the time and rushed the trade. A better GM could have found a better deal. Find me one other example of a team giving up a top 15 pick to move a contract like Marleau’s.
 
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I heard that Arizona was willing to do it for a 6th rounder but Dubas preferred Carolina to buy him out and paid a 1st to get it done
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I also heard Edmonton really wanted him and was willing to trade CMD but Marleau really didn't want to go to Edmonton so it didn't happen
 
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