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That's a very good AHL signing. Petruzzelli has been very good and likely should have received an ELC... so getting him on an AHL contract is really good. He was a 2017 3rd round pick.

The Leafs/Marlies/Growlers have a lot of goaltenders now though. Campbell, Mrazek, Hutchinson, Woll, Scott, Kallgren and now Petruzzelli.

Leafs also have Taylor Gauthier at their prospect camp who could very likely push for an ELC.

 
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Don't forget Braden Holt too. He has not played a lot, because of the pandemic and Dustin Wolf being ahead of him in Everett up until this point, but I still think he is a quality goalie prospect.

Holt just turned 18 so it's a possible outcome they sign him and send him back to Junior. He will need to really shine though to earn that. He's only played a total of 20 Junior games in the last 3 years.

Either way, Holt isn't seeing the AHL/ECHL for at least 2 years.
 
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That's a very good AHL signing. Petruzzelli has been very good and likely should have received an ELC... so getting him on an AHL contract is really good. He was a 2017 3rd round pick.

The Leafs/Marlies/Growlers have a lot of goaltenders now though. Campbell, Mrazek, Hutchinson, Woll, Scott, Kallgren and now Petruzzelli.

Leafs also have Taylor Gauthier at their prospect camp who could very likely push for an ELC.



Very nice. The guy is quite good. Hopefully shows he's worth an NHL deal
 
Why wasn't Petruzzelli signed by Detroit? Big goalie. Solid NCAA numbers.

The article says he chose not to sign with the Wings but maybe it was a case of him being offended of an offer coming too late? If that's the case, why did he settle for an AHL deal?
 
Why wasn't Petruzzelli signed by Detroit? Big goalie. Solid NCAA numbers.

The article says he chose not to sign with the Wings but maybe it was a case of him being offended of an offer coming too late? If that's the case, why did he settle for an AHL deal?

He probably was not willing to take an AHL deal most places. We have a top notch development program and we can probably pay more to him on an AHL contract than he would get on an ELC anyways.
 
He probably was not willing to take an AHL deal most places. We have a top notch development program and we can probably pay more to him on an AHL contract than he would get on an ELC anyways.

I looked at Detroit's page to see what they thought. One guy was mad saying 'He probably could have been our NHL backup or AHL starter', another guy said 'can't trust a guy that crosseyed'.

Tastes salty
 
I looked at Detroit's page to see what they thought. One guy was mad saying 'He probably could have been our NHL backup or AHL starter', another guy said 'can't trust a guy that crosseyed'.

Tastes salty

I always like the read ups on prospects before they get involved with the Leafs.
 
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Two junior aged camp invites and a pretty good AHL signing with upside with Holl/Scott/Hutch all on one year deals. Though I always pull for draftees, there’s going to be opportunities moving forward.
 
I’m pretty happy with this goalie signing.
A hobey baker finalist at 22 is pretty good.

Have to hope one of

Petro kallgren. Woll. Scott. And the 2 Russians.

I’m personally betting on Petro and arty.

for like no objective reason.
 
Petruzelli signing seams too good to be true. I recognize he is not a sure thing, but he is easily one of, if not our highest ranked Goaltending prospects in our system now. I wonder what the attraction to TOR is. He obviously feels confident going up against the likes of Kallgren, Hutch, Woll and Scott for playing time with the Marlies. I don't necessarily disagree either. He looks to be the most intriguing tendy in that bunch.

I think one thing that is often overlooked is having our AHL and NHL teams in the same city. Using the same facilities, and having access to the same deep pockets of MLSE. This is purely speculative, but I imagine playing for the Marlies is likely one of the better places to play in the AHL. They have the deep pockets of MLSE behind them and likely get treated as close to an NHL squad as you can be in the minors. Not to mention from a family perspective it can be massively beneficial. If these guys do in fact get a call up to the show, and it becomes semi permanent, or they're continually getting yo-yo'd back and forth, their home remains the same. Their families are not being impacted as much, and the player has less to deal with from a personal standpoint. They literally are changing locker rooms not area codes.

If the choice was between Grand Rapids and Toronto I think 95% of players would choose TOR. Especially if the opportunities are equal.

Bit of a log jam in net though, will be interesting to see how it all pans out. Not sure you can really have too many goaltenders in the system. It's just another lottery ticket. Hard to find a single negative thing to say about this signing TBH
 
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Petruzelli signing seams too good to be true. I recognize he is not a sure thing, but he is easily one of, if not our highest ranked Goaltending prospects in our system now. I wonder what the attraction to TOR is. He obviously feels confident going up against the likes of Kallgren, Hutch, Woll and Scott for playing time with the Marlies. I don't necessarily disagree either. He looks to be the most intriguing tendy in that bunch.

I think one thing that is often overlooked is having our AHL and NHL teams in the same city. Using the same facilities, and having access to the same deep pockets of MLSE. This is purely speculative, but I imagine playing for the Marlies is likely one of the better places to play in the AHL. They have the deep pockets of MLSE behind them and likely get treated as close to an NHL squad as you can be in the minors. Not to mention from a family perspective it can be massively beneficial. If these guys do in fact get a call up to the show, and it becomes semi permanent, or they're continually getting yo-yo'd back and forth, their home remains the same. Their families are not being impacted as much, and the player has less to deal with from a personal standpoint. They literally are changing locker rooms not area codes.

If the choice was between Grand Rapids and Toronto I think 95% of players would choose TOR. Especially if the opportunities are equal.

Bit of a log jam in net though, will be interesting to see how it all pans out. Not sure you can really have too many goaltenders in the system. It's just another lottery ticket. Hard to find a single negative thing to say about this signing TBH

How about a choice between Grand Rapids and St. John's?
 
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Petruzelli signing seams too good to be true. I recognize he is not a sure thing, but he is easily one of, if not our highest ranked Goaltending prospects in our system now. I wonder what the attraction to TOR is. He obviously feels confident going up against the likes of Kallgren, Hutch, Woll and Scott for playing time with the Marlies. I don't necessarily disagree either. He looks to be the most intriguing tendy in that bunch.

I think one thing that is often overlooked is having our AHL and NHL teams in the same city. Using the same facilities, and having access to the same deep pockets of MLSE. This is purely speculative, but I imagine playing for the Marlies is likely one of the better places to play in the AHL. They have the deep pockets of MLSE behind them and likely get treated as close to an NHL squad as you can be in the minors. Not to mention from a family perspective it can be massively beneficial. If these guys do in fact get a call up to the show, and it becomes semi permanent, or they're continually getting yo-yo'd back and forth, their home remains the same. Their families are not being impacted as much, and the player has less to deal with from a personal standpoint. They literally are changing locker rooms not area codes.

If the choice was between Grand Rapids and Toronto I think 95% of players would choose TOR. Especially if the opportunities are equal.

Bit of a log jam in net though, will be interesting to see how it all pans out. Not sure you can really have too many goaltenders in the system. It's just another lottery ticket. Hard to find a single negative thing to say about this signing TBH

It probably ends up being because we're paying him more in the AHL than anyone else offered.
 
It probably ends up being because we're paying him more in the AHL than anyone else offered.
Ya I mean you are probably right. To my understanding there is no maximum dollar amount for a one way AHL contract. And the salaries are very rarely made public. So in theory the Leafs could have offered him stupid money and still be compliant to the AHL CBA and then made a handshake agreement to mutually terminate the contract if the Leafs felt he has earned a look at the NHL level in say year 2 of the deal. At that point they could resign him to a 2 way deal or a 1 way NHL contract and he still made bank in his first year in the AHL. Also the AHL contract could be predominantly signing bonus and paid in advance of the season, which could mean that he could in theory terminate the deal after his 2022-23 bonus is paid and it would make a mutual termination advantageous to Keith to double dip essentially in 2022 with a 2way deal. The Leafs could have presented it as a possible succession plan from Campbell if Jack's contract demands are out of whack and/or Petru plays to an ability that is worthy of a NHL look in 2022-23. Wherein they could allow Jack to walk, terminate Petru's AHL deal, Resign him to an NHL contract, and run a Mrazek/Petru tandem in 2022-23.

It is just hard for me to believe he would sign a 2 year AHL deal at 22years old if he wasn't offered some sort of progression plan to the NHL from the Leafs. Yes, stupid money could have been offered, but the dream of playing in the show must still be alive for a hobey baker finalist and the ECAC best goalie of the year. Just seems odd to want to cement yourself in the minors for 2 years knowing that you could have been given a good shot elsewhere to make the show. Look at Jeremy Swayman as an example. Very similar career paths. Opportunity knocked his first year pro, and by all accounts BOS really likes what they saw. I am not sure why Petru would not have looked at what he has done thus far and not think he could do the same. Some sort of side deal must have been made. Because if it were just about money I would be very surprised. He still has a decent amount of promise, and could easily play in the NHL at some point
 
at this point if we don't have one of Akhtyamov, Kallgren, Peska, Petruzelli, Woll or Scott make a significant step in the right direction next year I would consider us unlucky. That is a lot of C+ to B level prospects in net that all have a chance to move their games forward this coming year. This year will be massive for our goaltending department. At this point our Goaltending department is like having 6 scratch and win tickets all with a 1 in 5 odds of winning IMO. So the fact that we have 6 of these tickets should mean we see one of them in the NHL at some point, statistically speaking.
 
at this point if we don't have one of Akhtyamov, Kallgren, Peska, Petruzelli, Woll or Scott make a significant step in the right direction next year I would consider us unlucky. That is a lot of C+ to B level prospects in net that all have a chance to move their games forward this coming year. This year will be massive for our goaltending department. At this point our Goaltending department is like having 6 scratch and win tickets all with a 1 in 5 odds of winning IMO. So the fact that we have 6 of these tickets should mean we see one of them in the NHL at some point, statistically speaking.
Or something is terribly wrong with our goaltending development. Our last successful goaltending project was james reimer btw (and yes he is successful as he has played 11 seasons and gave us 3 good seasons).
 
Or something is terribly wrong with our goaltending development. Our last successful goaltending project was james reimer btw (and yes he is successful as he has played 11 seasons and gave us 3 good seasons).
Reimer has a career .913 SV%. Definitely a success when it comes to development. If it wasn't for the concussion issues early he could have been great.
 
Reimer has a career .913 SV%. Definitely a success when it comes to development. If it wasn't for the concussion issues early he could have been great.

Honestly Reimer was one of the teams best draft and development success stories of the cap era.

A mid round pick turned into a 1B goalie, especially when the team had an absolutely garbage developmental system
 
Credit goes to Reims on how far he has gotten. I honestly never thought he was the most talented goalie, nor the most athletic. He has just seemed to scratch and claw his way to a very respectable NHL career. Forcing shooters to hit him in the crest. I always found him to be the busiest quiet goalie in the league, which I understand makes zero sense. But he was not overly athletic and never had a great reaction times, so he would almost make save look much more miraculous than they needed to be because he was almost sleepy in the net. And there were so many times where there would be a frantic scramble in the crease only to see Reims just slowly battling in there, somehow coming up with a save.

I really don't think he was naturally gifted, but he sure had an amazing mindset. Which is more than half the battle for a tendy. I also think he has developed more and more skill as the years have passed. I wanna say he didn't start playing hockey until like bantam which is pretty remarkable given what he has accomplished. But also really makes sense just how raw he has looked most of his career. He is most definitely the biggest success story from a development standpoint, but there really isn't a mystery as to why. James was Drafted in the 3rd round in 2006, We had only selected 2 Goalies in the following 6 Drafts. Grant Rollheiser (2008, 6th round) and Garrett Sparks (2011, 7th round).

only since the 2016 draft have we started to "prioritize" drafting a goalie. I'd say we just missed on Scott and Woll unfortunately, but they did seem like solid picks at the time and continued to look that way post draft. For a variety of reasons they have not worked, as of yet at least. I really do think by having this many goaltending "prospects" at least one of them has got to take that next step. But if you look at the draft since 2015 to present day, the only goalies drafted within the first 2 rounds of the draft that have had some NHL success have been Samsonov, Blackwood, Hart and Knight. SO wasting high draft capital isn't necessarily the answer either. I just think the quantity approach is the way to go. take 1 goalie every draft. Sooner or later you will hit the jackpot, and you only really need one to succeed to set you up for 7-10 years. lots of time to find the next one.
 
Don't think it requires a new thread but since he was the Head Amateur scout, Tim Speltz got hired to be the AHL GM of the Golden Knights.

Another scout leaving this off season to a promotion somewhere else.

 
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