Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - Who ordered a taxi?

[Leaf Fans]

Barabanov resigned with San Jose

Oh, that's right they gave him a year. Thanks.

 

[Leaf Fans]

We don't have room for VV unless we move some goalies.

Hutch, Woll, Scott, Kallgren, VV.

1 for NHL ( probably going to sign someone) 2 each for the Marlies and growlers.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

1 for NHL ( probably going to sign someone) 2 each for the Marlies and growlers.

It will likely be Hutch + Woll on the Marlies, Scott on the Growlers, and Kallgren may be in Sweden next year. Or we are moving on from Woll (likely trade) and splitting Kallgren and Hutch. Highly doubt anyone except Scott is on the Growlers next year.

Either way, VV is the odd man out and likely going back to Finland.

 

[Leaf Fans]

It will likely be Hutch + Woll on the Marlies, Scott on the Growlers, and Kallgren may be in Sweden next year. Or we are moving on from Woll (likely trade) and splitting Kallgren and Hutch. Highly doubt anyone except Scott is on the Growlers next year.

Either way, VV is the odd man out and likely going back to Finland.

Perhaps.

 

[Morgs]

It's been forever since I updated, but I finished the end of season stats for the prospects in the Leafs org. The player needs to be U24, on a non-tryout contract and have less than 50 NHL GP to be on the sheet.

***Sandin with his 1 game outside the NHL, and Abruzzese with 0 games due to injury were left off the sheet.
***Korshkov and Rasanen are no longer with the organization.
***Bobylev & Duszak aged out. Chebykin and Rubins will age out relatively soon, but I updated them anyway.

For the guys that played in multiple leagues (SDA, Rubins, Hollowell, Kokkonen) I used the league they played the most in, but I tracked their other stats too.

Player Name	Age	Pos	League	GP	Goals	Points	PPG	NHLe	rel.CF%	Rel.FF%	ATOI	OZS%	oiSH%
Abramov, Mikhail	20.3	C	QMJHL	25	12	30	1.20	15.6	-	-	-	-	-
Amirov, Rodion	19.8	W	KHL	39	9	13	0.33	16.9	-	-	13:54	-	-
Chebykin, Nikolai	23.9	W	VHL	28	4	15	0.54	11.8	-	-	15:07	-	-
Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon	20.8	C	KHL	10	1	5	0.50	25.3	-	-	14:04	-	-
Fusco, John	20.1	RHD	USHL	20	2	12	0.60	5.8	-	-	-	-	-
Greenway, J.D.	23.2	LHD	NCAA	14	2	5	0.36	6.0	-	-	-	-	-
Hallander, Filip	21.0	C/W	SHL	51	13	24	0.47	18.9	3.9%	4.5%	17:05	-	6.5%
Hirvonen, Roni	19.5	C/W	Liiga	54	6	15	0.28	8.2	-0.8%	-	16:03	53.6%	8.0%
Hollowell, Mac	22.8	RHD	AHL	27	2	10	0.37	12.5	-	-	-	-	-
Holmberg, Pontus	22.3	W	SHL	45	9	23	0.51	20.5	5.5%	5.6%	16:13	-	9.2%
Kara, Vladislav	23.2	W	KHL	23	1	3	0.13	6.6	-	-	12:15	-	-
Kizimov, Semyon	21.5	W	VHL	35	7	14	0.40	8.8	-	-	15:38	-	-
Kokkonen, Mikko	20.5	LHD	Liiga	50	1	10	0.20	5.9	7.5%	-	21:51	48.8%	7.2%
Koster, Mike	20.2	LHD	NCAA	31	3	12	0.39	7.3	-	-	-	-	-
Kral, Filip	21.7	LHD	CZE	48	6	21	0.44	14.2	1.8%	-	20:57	49.5%	-
Liljegren, Timothy	22.2	RHD	AHL	21	2	11	0.52	17.7	-	-	-	-	-
Loponen, Kalle	20.3	RHD	Fin J20	44	11	36	0.82	4.9	-	-	19:55	-	-
Miettinen, Veeti	19.8	W	NCAA	31	11	24	0.77	11.2	-	-	-	-	-
Miller, Joe	18.8	C/W	USHL	40	8	18	0.45	4.4	-	-	-	-	-
Niemela, Topi	19.3	RHD	Liiga	15	0	4	0.27	7.9	9.6%	-	15:30	59.8%	9.9%
O'Connell, Ryan	22.2	LHD	NCAA	27	0	6	0.22	4.2	-	-	-	-	-
Ovchinnikov, Dimitri	18.9	C/W	MHL	40	20	51	1.28	17.8	-	-	24:12	-	-
Rindell, Axel	21.2	RHD	Liiga	47	7	19	0.40	12.0	3.5%	-	20:37	49.9%	10.1%
Robertson, Nick	19.8	W	AHL	21	5	16	0.76	25.7	-	-	-	-	-
Rubins, Kristians	23.6	LHD	AHL	22	1	3	0.14	4.6	-	-	-	-	-
Schingoethe, Wyatt	18.9	C	USHL	44	10	21	0.48	4.6	-	-	-	-	-
Tverberg, Ryan	19.4	C/W	NCAA	14	4	7	0.50	8.4	-	-	-	-	-
Villeneuve, William	19.3	RHD	QMJHL	33	3	20	0.61	7.9	-	-	-	-	-

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Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon	20.8	C	AHL	6	0	4	0.67	22.5	-	-	-	-	-
Hollowell, Mac	22.8	RHD	Mestis	6	2	6	1.00	11.4	9.3%	-	22:08	44.7%	11.3%
Kokkonen, Mikko	22.8	LHD	AHL	11	1	7	0.64	21.5	-	-	-	-	-
Rubins, Kristians	23.6	LHD	ML	21	2	5	0.24	3.7	-	-	-	-	-

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I'll be posting my prospect rankings prior to the draft soon.

 

[Morgs]

Here are my Leafs prospect rankings post-season, pre-draft. Any player currently above the age of 24, has played 50 or more NHL games, or on only a tryout contract (and not drafted by the Leafs/rights traded for) is not listed. The most notable "prospects" (unless I'm forgetting someone) that fit this criteria are Joey Anderson, Adam Brooks, and Joseph Duszak.

Any player inside a tier is relatively interchangeable. My tiers essentially are:
1st - star potential, likely impact NHL player, will play in the NHL
2nd - low star/impact NHL potential, will very likely be a NHL player in some capacity
3rd - good NHL potential, could convince me they deserve to be in the 2nd tier relatively easy
4th - some NHL potential, still interesting
5th - probably don't need to be ranked

Rank (tier)	Player	Position	Age	Highest Level	Acquired
1 (1)	Timothy Liljegren	RHD	22.2	NHL	1st Round Pick 2017
2 (1)	Rasmus Sandin	LHD	21.3	NHL	1st Round Pick 2018
3 (1)	Nick Robertson	W	19.8	NHL	2nd Round Pick 2019
4 (1)	Rodion Amirov	W	19.8	KHL	1st Round Pick 2020
5 (2)	Topi Niemela	RHD	19.3	Liiga	3rd Round Pick 2020
6 (2)	Filip Hallander	W	21.0	SHL	Pittsburgh Trade
7 (2)	Mikhail Abramov	C/W	20.3	QMJHL	4th Round Pick 2019
8 (2)	Veeti Miettinen	W	19.8	NCAA	6th Round Pick 2020
9 (2)	Mikko Kokkonen	LHD	20.5	Liiga	3rd Round Pick 2019
10 (2)	Roni Hirvonen	C/W	19.5	Liiga	2nd Round Pick 2020
11 (3)	Nick Abruzzese	W	22.1	NCAA	4th Round Pick 2019
12 (3)	Filip Kral	LHD	21.7	CZE	5th Round Pick 2018
13 (3)	Semyon Der-Arguchintsev	C	20.8	KHL	3rd Round Pick 2018
14 (3)	Pontus Holmberg	W	22.3	SHL	6th Round Pick 2018
15 (3)	Dmitri Ovchinnikov	C/W	18.9	KHL	5th Round Pick 2020
16 (3)	Mike Koster	LHD	20.2	NCAA	5th Round Pick 2019
17 (3)	Axel Rindell	RHD	21.2	Liiga	6th Round Pick 2020
18 (3)	Ahktyamov, Artur	G	19.7	KHL	4th Round Pick 2020
19 (4)	Ryan Tverberg	C	19.4	NCAA	7th Round Pick 2020
20 (4)	William Villeneuve	RHD	19.3	QMJHL	4th Round Pick 2020
21 (4)	Mac Hollowell	RHD	22.8	AHL	4th Round Pick 2018
22 (4)	Semyon Kizimov	W	21.5	KHL	7th Round Pick 2018
23 (4)	Kalle Loponen	RHD	20.3	Liiga	7th Round Pick 2019
24 (4)	Wyatt Schingoethe	C	18.9	USHL	7th Round Pick 2020
25 (4)	Joe Miller	C/W	18.8	USHL	6th Round Pick 2020
26 (4)	Kristans Rubins	LHD	23.6	AHL	UDFA
27 (4)	Scott, Ian	G	22.5	AHL	4th Round Pick 2017
28 (4)	Woll, Joseph	G	23.0	AHL	3rd Round Pick 2016
29 (4)	John Fusco	RHD	20.1	USHL	7th Round Pick 2020
30 (5)	Ryan O'Connell	LHD	22.2	NCAA	7th Round Pick 2017
31 (5)	Vladislav Kara	W	23.2	KHL	4th Round Pick 2017
32 (5)	J.D. Greenway	LHD	23.2	NCAA	3rd Round Pick 2016
33 (5)	Nikolai Chebykin	W	23.9	KHL	7th Round Pick 2017

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[Prominence]

Man, i miss watching prospect hockey.

 

[aingefan]

@Morgs thanks, a lot of good work there.
Where would you rank Alex Steeves? Somewhere in your third tier?

 

[Morgs]

@Morgs thanks, a lot of good work there.
Where would you rank Alex Steeves? Somewhere in your third tier?

Forgot we signed him. 3rd tier, yeah!

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Great list Morgs! Small detail but I think Liljegren had 11 points in 21GP, not 9.

 

[Morgs]

Great list Morgs! Small detail but I think Liljegren had 11 points in 21GP, not 9.

Yeah, he had 9 assists. Damn. Fixed it!

 

[fahad203]

Don't we have a player pavel gogelev or something?

Where do you rank him?

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Don't we have a player pavel gogelev or something?

Where do you rank him?

Like Brazeau he's on an AHL deal so he could technically sign an ELC with anybody. Would probably be in the 19-25 range.

 

[Duffman955]

Why SDA so low?

He looks talented

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Why SDA so low?

He looks talented

He's such a wildcard. All the skill in the world but really needs to learn to shoot the puck more often.

Looks great at times on the bigger stages against better players but almost sinks to his competitions level as well, example being his underwhelming OHL career.

If he can put it all together he could be something special but right now is probably trending towards being a Bracco level tweener between the AHL/NHL.

 

[Cor]

Like Brazeau he's on an AHL deal so he could technically sign an ELC with anybody. Would probably be in the 19-25 range.

I am hoping we lock down Gogolev on an ELC.

He’s a legit prospect IMO

 

[Cor]

Why SDA so low?

He looks talented

Probably how boom or bust he is.

 

[as Pure as Evil]

i see raty is dropping like a brick in mocks last summer he was a sure fire top 3

 

[Morgs]

Why SDA so low?

He looks talented

Not sure if you meant my list as I have so many people blocked (and you might have quoted them), but I think 13 is a fair placement for him, but like I said, anyone in any tier is pretty close to interchangeable and I don't believe he deserves to be in the tier above.

Guy has all the talent in the world, but he overdoes everything to go along with it. It's like watching the less talented version of Marner with production being good/great, but not special. I think he could definitely play in the NHL soon, but unless he picks up another gear and smartens up he may just be a AAAA player. Lots of upside, lots of risk.

 

[Prominence]

Why SDA so low?

He looks talented

One of the problems of sda is that he doesn’t really fit in a cohort of player types. When you watch him, you can see his skill and iq, but he doesn’t produce points. If you ignore his lacksadasicalness, he looks decent. He tends to do better with good linemates, but his skillset is more suited for the top six. He’s small, but not fast. If you’re small, you better be able to evade checks and most if not all the small nhl players can skate. With the few who aren’t, they bring intangibles that sda does not have. He could be a good sheltered 3rd line c, but most teams use a heavy stacked bottom 6.

 

[hockeynorth]

I actually do think SDA will play NHL games, I just don't know how many. I feel like he could be a solid 3rd liner for us though

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I am hoping we lock down Gogolev on an ELC.

He’s a legit prospect IMO

His skating isn't as much of an issue as it was made out to be imo, he just needs to keep his feet moving. He tends to coast when he gets the puck. If he fixes that could be really good.

 

[Cor]

I actually do think SDA will play NHL games, I just don't know how many. I feel like he could be a solid 3rd liner for us though

Kinda has a Grabovski type vibe to him.

 

[Prominence]

Kinda has a Grabovski type vibe to him.

No he doesn’t. Grabovski was effort and played hard. If you’re big on effort, SDA will INFURIATE you.

 

[fahad203]

No he doesn’t. Grabovski was effort and played hard. If you’re big on effort, SDA will INFURIATE you.

Grabvo was super fiesty. He didn't a rats ass what you felt about him. I still remember his hate towards Habs.

Also he was gutsy. I remember him getting pounded by chara only to score the winning goal

We miss that tenacity. That dont f with me attitude