Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2023-23 Season Edition

[The Iceman]

If the Leafs go scorched earth after a 1st round playoff loss, would that no mean probably 5-10 1st round picks or caliber prospects for Matthews, Marner and Nylander?

10+ and then $30 million in cap space

 

[aingefan]

Really wondering what's going through Robertson's head as he sees all these players coming on board, along with Holmberg and McMann make good impressions, and Knies getting ready to join.

Kid lost a golden opportunity show what he could do this season and potentially to grab a roster spot

I bet he’s bound and determined to get healthy and get back at it. He’s got a pretty singular focus, and work ethic is never a problem.
Might be a bit of an uphill climb, but who knows….maybe it eases the pressure abit?

 

[Twine Tickler]

Really wondering what's going through Robertson's head as he sees all these players coming on board, along with Holmberg and McMann make good impressions, and Knies getting ready to join.

Kid lost a golden opportunity show what he could do this season and potentially to grab a roster spot

With all due respect to Nick, He was given a plenty of runway to make an impression and failed to do so. I still have faith in him overall, but I do as well wonder where his headspace is at. It would be incredibly challenging to be consistently on the sidelines year over year. I do think Nick is a kid that has the right mindset though. He's so determined to prove himself, so I really wouldn't put anything past him.

Without knowing for certain, I'd imagine at some point in his recovery he will be able to at the very least work out other parts of his body given the fact that this most recent injury is his shoulder. I'd imagine he can still work on his core and leg strength as well as conditioning. So hopefully he can come into main camp with a head of steam. I'd also not be opposed to sending him to another rookie camp, even though I know optically that would not look good for him and may piss him off. At the end of the day, we need him to be in game shape by main camp.

It's hard to ask a kid who works as hard as he does to do even more, but at the end of the day that is the price you have to pay if you want to make the NHL.

 

[Fogelhund]

Really wondering what's going through Robertson's head as he sees all these players coming on board, along with Holmberg and McMann make good impressions, and Knies getting ready to join.

Kid lost a golden opportunity show what he could do this season and potentially to grab a roster spot

He's had a tough time. He probably feels like he can't catch a break... which is true. He's very determined, plenty of drive, so you have to think he's ready to work hard, to make it. I don't really think Holmberg, McMann, or Knies factors into his thoughts though... it's not lost opportunity really in the sense that others have jumper over him... the lost opportunity is time. If he can get his body, and game together, he'll be part of this team, no matter what this situation is. If it's not here, it will be elsewhere. I don't know if his game will ever translate... but if he can turn his OHL/AHL scoring, into NHL scoring success, he'll have NHL success somewhere... it just might take some time. I think at this point, he really should just start in the AHL next year, and work everything out. Really focus on his core strength, his leg strength, balance.. keeping on his feet..and maybe even rethink going as hard in the corners... which I mean, we love to see the fight in him, but so far, it seems to be a problem.

 

[ULF_55]

I bet he’s bound and determined to get healthy and get back at it. He’s got a pretty singular focus, and work ethic is never a problem.
Might be a bit of an uphill climb, but who knows….maybe it eases the pressure abit?

Still has a couple years of waivers according to: Nicholas Robertson Waivers Calculator Results - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

So no rush for the Leafs, but the head start he had on others no longer exists.

 

[Fogelhund]

Still has a couple years of waivers according to: Nicholas Robertson Waivers Calculator Results - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

So no rush for the Leafs, but the head start he had on others no longer exists.

I was wondering about that, and going to add that to my post, but got distracted and forgot to. Thanks for the info.

 

[aingefan]

I was wondering about that, and going to add that to my post, but got distracted and forgot to. Thanks for the info.

Thanks @ULF_55 I didn’t know capfriendly had that tool.
I wondered about SDA, Joe Woll, Kral and their waiver status.
I don’t think any other prospects would be waiver eligible next year?
Do you know offhand?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Can't wait to see this guy playing for the Leafs

 

[Prominence]

His transition numbers have improved. He’s generating more offense.

Nuuuuuuu toyberg defense whyyyy

 

[BertCorbeau]

Koster’s underlying numbers have made me interested in him again

Tverberg will need some work in the AHL for sure

 

[francis246]

With all due respect to Nick, He was given a plenty of runway to make an impression and failed to do so. I still have faith in him overall, but I do as well wonder where his headspace is at. It would be incredibly challenging to be consistently on the sidelines year over year. I do think Nick is a kid that has the right mindset though. He's so determined to prove himself, so I really wouldn't put anything past him.

Without knowing for certain, I'd imagine at some point in his recovery he will be able to at the very least work out other parts of his body given the fact that this most recent injury is his shoulder. I'd imagine he can still work on his core and leg strength as well as conditioning. So hopefully he can come into main camp with a head of steam. I'd also not be opposed to sending him to another rookie camp, even though I know optically that would not look good for him and may piss him off. At the end of the day, we need him to be in game shape by main camp.

It's hard to ask a kid who works as hard as he does to do even more, but at the end of the day that is the price you have to pay if you want to make the NHL.

Nick will make it, it might just not be with the Leafs when he becomes a full time NHLer. He’s got the drive and the skill. I think they need to get him down to the AHL for a full season and let him bake. The Kadri approach should have been used with Nick.

Kadri had the skill to play in the NHL at 19, but lacked the discipline, he needed time to learn how to be a pro and a leader with the Marlies. Give him his cup of coffee to keep him hungry and then when he demonstrates he’s capable of driving a line bring him up.

 

[1specter]

Tverberg has a bit of that Bracco vibe (even looks like him lol). Hopefully he doesn't love skiing like Bracco did and can iron out his game at the pro level

Can't wait to see this guy playing for the Leafs

Man, a 6'3 transition beast with hands who skates well...just imagine him with Matthews, who is also 6'3 and a transition beast with hands that skates well.

 

[francis246]

Tverberg has a bit of that Bracco vibe (even looks like him lol). Hopefully he doesn't love skiing like Bracco did and can iron out his game at the pro level

Tverberg seems to be a more complete player than Bracco and bigger as well. I don’t really get the Bracco vibes from Tverberg. I get more Dominic Toninato

 

[kb]

Tverberg seems to be a more complete player than Bracco and bigger as well. I don’t really get the Bracco vibes from Tverberg. I get more Dominic Toninato

Yep. Tverberg is a speedy, high octane player who likes the throw the body around, literally nothing at all like Bracco.

 

[francis246]

Yep. Tverberg is a speedy, high octane player who likes the throw the body around, literally nothing at all like Bracco.

He couldn’t really be a sleeper pick, late round guy much like Holmberg who can play in your bottom six. The best part is even if these guys aren’t regulars for us they are good trade pieces for future years

 

[TMLAM34]

I really like Tverberg. He’ll probably spend next year with the Marlies but he’s someone that I think will really impress and maybe even get a few NHL games in next year.

I also don’t think Robertson really cares about any of these moves the Leafs have done in the past couple weeks. It doesn’t effect him as he’s not even scheduled to return in the playoffs.

If we’re planning on re-signing O’Reilly, it’s probably a safe bet Robertson will be in our lineup on opening night next season. We’ll need Robertson, Knies and Holmberg in the lineup for cap purposes.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Knies - O’Reilly - _______
_______ - Lafferty - Holmberg

We also still have Jarnkrok which I don’t mind but I also wouldn’t mind move on from in the summer. He doesn’t really fit in anywhere in our lineup.

 

[VanW27]

I really like Tverberg. He’ll probably spend next year with the Marlies but he’s someone that I think will really impress and maybe even get a few NHL games in next year.

I also don’t think Robertson really cares about any of these moves the Leafs have done in the past couple weeks. It doesn’t effect him as he’s not even scheduled to return in the playoffs.

If we’re planning on re-signing O’Reilly, it’s probably a safe bet Robertson will be in our lineup on opening night next season. We’ll need Robertson, Knies and Holmberg in the lineup for cap purposes.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Knies - O’Reilly - _______
_______ - Lafferty - Holmberg

We also still have Jarnkrok which I don’t mind but I also wouldn’t mind move on from in the summer. He doesn’t really fit in anywhere in our lineup.

What's this, year 4 of people pencilling Robertson into the 2LW spot?

Small, injury prone and most concerning, smart as a bag of hammers. Maybe he figures it out, but for me his poor hockey sense limits his upside to an Andreas Johnsson type of player - if he's able to get stronger. Nothing wrong with that but not something to get excited about either.

 

[TMLAM34]

What's this, year 4 of people pencilling Robertson into the 2LW spot?

Small, injury prone and most concerning, smart as a bag of hammers. Maybe he figures it out, but for me his poor hockey sense limits his upside to an Andreas Johnsson type of player - if he's able to get stronger. Nothing wrong with that but not something to get excited about either.

I’m not really excited about him. He has potential to be a solid player and IMO earned a spot in our lineup full-time this year by his pre-season and regular season play. Unfortunately he got injured so we’ll have to see how he comes back from this injury. He’s still got room to develop and there’s also something called the salary cap. Bunting, O’Reilly and Samsonov won’t be cheap to re-sign. We’ll need contracts like Robertson, Knies and Holmberg to be in the lineup.

 

[AuraSphere]

I really like Tverberg. He’ll probably spend next year with the Marlies but he’s someone that I think will really impress and maybe even get a few NHL games in next year.

I also don’t think Robertson really cares about any of these moves the Leafs have done in the past couple weeks. It doesn’t effect him as he’s not even scheduled to return in the playoffs.

If we’re planning on re-signing O’Reilly, it’s probably a safe bet Robertson will be in our lineup on opening night next season. We’ll need Robertson, Knies and Holmberg in the lineup for cap purposes.

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Knies - O’Reilly - _______
_______ - Lafferty - Holmberg

We also still have Jarnkrok which I don’t mind but I also wouldn’t mind move on from in the summer. He doesn’t really fit in anywhere in our lineup.

There's no way we can resign Bunting

 

[613Leafer]

There's no way we can resign Bunting

Our blueline and goaltending (Samsanov + Woll) should be cheaper next season... so I think there may be more wiggle room than people think.


Rielly (7.5M) -Brodie (5M)
McCabe (2M) - Liljegren (1.4M)
Gio (0.8M) - Timmins (1.1M)

Samsanov (4M-ish)
Woll (0.76M)

Murray with only one season left i think we can move without retention.

 

[Morgs]

Tverberg has a bit of that Bracco vibe (even looks like him lol). Hopefully he doesn't love skiing like Bracco did and can iron out his game at the pro level


Man, a 6'3 transition beast with hands who skates well...just imagine him with Matthews, who is also 6'3 and a transition beast with hands that skates well.

Tverberg is all determination and N/S skating. Plays absolutely nothing like Bracco.

 

[stickty111]

Cavallin being up is interesting. Pretty sure Marlies have 2 healthy goalies right now

 

[SprDaVE]

Cavallin being up is interesting. Pretty sure Marlies have 2 healthy goalies right now

I wouldn't be surprised if Kallgren is given away in some depth move.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I wouldn't be surprised if Kallgren is given away in some depth move.

While Kallgren is not good and likely won't be here next year, it seems odd to move goalie depth like that.

It would make more sense to move Hunt, Simmonds, or Dahlstrom if teams didn't want to deal with one-way money.

Although I don't think the Leafs will be short on ways to open up contract spots if needed.

 

[aingefan]

Hoping after the deadline that focus shifts to the college/euro UFA market. Sounds like some solid talent on the D side, maybe a bit more desirable with some paths opening relatively soon.