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Marlies win 5-3.
Their division lead is now 20 points.
Leafs are the important team, but Marlies could use some fine tuning before the deadline. They have lost a 1st liner in Anderson, and a fine depth player in Abramov.
Their needs are likely a top 6 forward, and 2 depth players with one who can play in the middle 6.
Shutdown d man is also likely worth pursuing. Dahlstrom looks close to be coming back though so that will help. Marlies PK has been hit and miss this season.

Goalie depth is good
 
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Leaf Rocket said:
I think we have done well with getting players or prospects that were kind of noted to be "done" and good luck good riddance into something. Joey Anderson surely didn't pan out as an NHLer but we still did decent for him in flipping him. I am sure we will do something similar again.

I do agree we definitely need to get our forward prospect game up a bit more and see how things will go with a lot of things moving.
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I agree on the good approach and opportunities given to Marlies and fringe roster guys. And agree, it’s likely to continue.
 
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4thline said:
Is there really?

of Juniors
Voit yes. Minten/Lisowsky/Moldenhauer either not Marlies eligible or committed to NCAA. Kressler could come, but will likely be flirting with 100 total OHL games (including playoffs) over the last 3 seasons. I like him but he can't stay healthy. Could be candidate for an OA season in the O.

One, maaaaybe 2.

Of NCAA
Knies is likely with the Leafs, I think I read somewhere that Tverberg and Miettinen aren't coming out until they graduate, Miller is nowhere near ready.

Likely zero

From Europe
Grebyonkin is under contract in Russia. Hirvonen is likely, and we have Ovchinnikov under ELC as well. Kara/Chebykin/Kizimov complete wildcards, but all getting old, if they sign it will likely be with the intent to head home if they don't crack the Leafs out of camp or soon after.
Possibly/likely 2

So 2-4 incoming Marlies (3 is a safe bet).

Assuming McMann and Holmberg are Day 1 leafs, RFA's re-signed, returning Marlies with NHL contracts will be Abruzzese, Ellis, Steeves, SDA, Clifford.

We've got room to go after a couple of high profile guys with the promise of a shot at major AHL minutes
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You and I aren’t far off in who we expect to make the jump. But my answer to your question is, yes, I consider 3-4 viable prospects adding to the AHL forward ranks to be an influx. I generally feel if you’re adding a lines worth of forwards on ELC’s and a pair of defencemen, that’s good drafting.
I expect Holmberg, McMann and Knies to be Leafs next year. Graduating 3 forwards is a great success any single year.
Additionally I see NickRob, Abruzzese and Steeves getting games and pretty close. Max Ellis might even warrant some games as a pesky winger, much like Trevor Moore was.
It’s the D that is less populated with maybe only Niemela projecting as more than a top4 kinda guy, which is why I suggest targeting those UFA’s.
 
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I am Canadian said:
Happy we kept a 1st, even if it's going to be in the 30's. Expect Dubas to trade down and and grab a 3rd + draft a prospect that we don't like and end up loving within 6 months.

Sucks to lose Sandin, but happy Leafs are still going to be adding prospects for longevity.
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Yeah even though it sucks to lose Sandin it was good to get a first round pick that will most likely be better than the one we gave up 😬
 
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Looks like Peksa has been sent back to junior with Bars Kazan (VHL) not making the playoffs. He gave up 2 goals on 31 shots in the first game of the MHL play-ins, but It is lost 3-0. First goal was a (failed?) wrap-around where the puck came (was passed?) to an open man in the low slot. It didn't look great, but I couldn't follow the puck easily, so it I can't fault Peksa for losing it. Second goal was a back-door tap-in on the pp, no chance for Peksa.

Granted it's only junior competition, but Peksa seems much calmer in his crease than Akhtyamov. His style kind of reminds me of when Samsonov is a little bit swimmy, whereas Akhtyamov is hyper-aggressive and seems to rely on his athleticism to a much larger degree (though I've barely seen him this season so he may have gotten better at positioning). If either guy is a legitimate prospect, they really need to be in KHL next season (and doing well obviously), but I don't know if either will get that chance in Kazan's system. At least one of them will need to find a new team, maybe both. Although if neither can beat out Kazan's current backup, a failed Tampa prospect, that's probably more telling of their overall potential.
 
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On a less exciting note, the AHL trade deadline is next Friday. So far I'm thinking the move for the Marlies is trying to identify some misvalued swap opportunities for decent forwards on teams likely to miss the Playoffs in exchange for depth D on AHL deals (guys like Hellickson/Pietroniro go)

They are deep all around when healthy, but the numbers game seems to favor defense (in a healthy situation), especially factoring in the NHL roster is at 12F and 9D. They'd be taking from the forwards a few times before touching any of the D.

McMann - Shaw - Abruzzese
Blandisi - Holmberg - Der-Arguchinstev
Clifford - Zohorna - Steeves
Slaggert - Johnstone - Ellis
Chyzowski
-both Centazzo/Solow are pushing 10GP, but are ideally two of the Growlers' top offensive guys
-could get Hirvonen and Ovchinnikov when they are in done in Finland/Russia

Then on D, it can be about 13 names deep...
Left shot: Benn, Kral, Hoefenmayer (plays right usually), Rifai, Kokkonen, Hellickson, Pietroniro, Mete (when healthy), Dahlstrom (when healthy)

Right shot: Villeneuve, Miller, Hollowell (when healthy), and possibly adding Niemela

Seems plausible that a depth LHD or two can go for forwards. That doesn't really hamper Growlers D depth, as all of these guys have primarily been up all year or hurt, and it allows the Growlers to get their top forwards back now.
 
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Artur's playoffs just ended now. You can't blame him though. Look at these stats.

GP: 6
GAA: 1.53(not totally accurate)
SV%: .952
SO: 2

His team lost in 6 games. Have to feel for him, he did all he could and they still lost. He even had an assist in the series. Even in game 6, he only allowed 1 goal which was with about 2 mins left. His team just couldn't score.

Do they bring him over to the Marlies now?
 
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Duke16 said:
On a less exciting note, the AHL trade deadline is next Friday. So far I'm thinking the move for the Marlies is trying to identify some misvalued swap opportunities for decent forwards on teams likely to miss the Playoffs in exchange for depth D on AHL deals (guys like Hellickson/Pietroniro go)

They are deep all around when healthy, but the numbers game seems to favor defense (in a healthy situation), especially factoring in the NHL roster is at 12F and 9D. They'd be taking from the forwards a few times before touching any of the D.

McMann - Shaw - Abruzzese
Blandisi - Holmberg - Der-Arguchinstev
Clifford - Zohorna - Steeves
Slaggert - Johnstone - Ellis
Chyzowski
-both Centazzo/Solow are pushing 10GP, but are ideally two of the Growlers' top offensive guys
-could get Hirvonen and Ovchinnikov when they are in done in Finland/Russia

Then on D, it can be about 13 names deep...
Left shot: Benn, Kral, Hoefenmayer (plays right usually), Rifai, Kokkonen, Hellickson, Pietroniro, Mete (when healthy), Dahlstrom (when healthy)

Right shot: Villeneuve, Miller, Hollowell (when healthy), and possibly adding Niemela

Seems plausible that a depth LHD or two can go for forwards. That doesn't really hamper Growlers D depth, as all of these guys have primarily been up all year or hurt, and it allows the Growlers to get their top forwards back now.
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Good write up. I'd expect them to add one or two ATO at some point as well, but those players are typically not used a ton during the playoffs. I do hope Hirvonen can make the jump to the Marlies since I doubt he'll be going to the World Championships.

They definitely could use a couple forwards.
 
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Artur's playoffs just ended now. You can't blame him though. Look at these stats.

GP: 6
GAA: 1.53(not totally accurate)
SV%: .952
SO: 2

His team lost in 6 games. Have to feel for him, he did all he could and they still lost. He even had an assist in the series. Even in game 6, he only allowed 1 goal which was with about 2 mins left. His team just couldn't score.

Do they bring him over to the Marlies now?
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He dominated the league he was in. He's done all he can do at that level. Hopefully that is enough for a promotion.
 
SprDaVE said:
Pronman also has a nice list of unsigned prospects from NA and Europe.

Jack Livingstone looks to be the top prospect target for a lot of teams.

theathletic.com

Pronman: Top college, CHL and European free agents for NHL teams

Could any of these players become the next Andrei Kuzmenko, Ilya Mikheyev or Danny DeKeyser?
theathletic.com theathletic.com
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Already interested in Livingston and really hoping that Dubas was following Jaxon Nelson while watching Minnesota play last week.

6'4 220lb Centre who can finish would be an amazing add to our C pipeline depth. Having Knies and Koster as teammates hopefully contributes to him being on the Leafs radar and the Leafs on his radar.

With the draft capital traded recently, I would expect the Leafs to be even more active than they usually are in trying to source talent through the NCAA and Euro leagues. They definitely have an eye for it and invested well, as this thread clearly demonstrates..... :thumbu:

Duke16 said:
On a less exciting note, the AHL trade deadline is next Friday. So far I'm thinking the move for the Marlies is trying to identify some misvalued swap opportunities for decent forwards on teams likely to miss the Playoffs in exchange for depth D on AHL deals (guys like Hellickson/Pietroniro go)

They are deep all around when healthy, but the numbers game seems to favor defense (in a healthy situation), especially factoring in the NHL roster is at 12F and 9D. They'd be taking from the forwards a few times before touching any of the D.

McMann - Shaw - Abruzzese
Blandisi - Holmberg - Der-Arguchinstev
Clifford - Zohorna - Steeves
Slaggert - Johnstone - Ellis
Chyzowski
-both Centazzo/Solow are pushing 10GP, but are ideally two of the Growlers' top offensive guys
-could get Hirvonen and Ovchinnikov when they are in done in Finland/Russia

Then on D, it can be about 13 names deep...
Left shot: Benn, Kral, Hoefenmayer (plays right usually), Rifai, Kokkonen, Hellickson, Pietroniro, Mete (when healthy), Dahlstrom (when healthy)

Right shot: Villeneuve, Miller, Hollowell (when healthy), and possibly adding Niemela

Seems plausible that a depth LHD or two can go for forwards. That doesn't really hamper Growlers D depth, as all of these guys have primarily been up all year or hurt, and it allows the Growlers to get their top forwards back now.
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I would be so pumped to see Niemala and Hirvonen on the Marlies.

Besides keeping Knies, keeping Niemala was another priority.
 
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