BertCorbeau
F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
Disappointed for Voit because of hockey politics
Oof no prospects in the wjc, kind of a whatever for me this year I guess.
I think we'd all agree that success at WJC doesn't = future superstar
HOWEVER not having a single prospect at the WJC, is that a black eye for our prospect pool?
I know we'd all argue there is zero reason for Voit not to be considered and Minten may have garnered more attention if he held a different passport.
I just think you generally want to see your guys making best on best teams in their (relative) age group.
When our guy is leading a league filled with those players in points, and as others mentioned most of our guys have aged out, I think it's fine.I think we'd all agree that success at WJC doesn't = future superstar
HOWEVER not having a single prospect at the WJC, is that a black eye for our prospect pool?
I know we'd all argue there is zero reason for Voit not to be considered and Minten may have garnered more attention if he held a different passport.
I just think you generally want to see your guys making best on best teams in their (relative) age group.
I think we'd all agree that success at WJC doesn't = future superstar
HOWEVER not having a single prospect at the WJC, is that a black eye for our prospect pool?
I know we'd all argue there is zero reason for Voit not to be considered and Minten may have garnered more attention if he held a different passport.
I just think you generally want to see your guys making best on best teams in their (relative) age group.
How did Hildeby have a chance? He's 21Absolutely we do... but our draft two years ago, we had three picks. Knies is too old now, leaving only Voit as the guy who could make it from the 2021 draft year.
Voit was a big omission IMO..
Minten is too young, unless he was a superstar level guy to get selected, as is Moldenhauer.
Outside of Voit, the only guy who might have had a chance, was Hildeby... and he won't get selected.
It's just one of those... we don't really have anyone at the right age to be going... except Voit.
How did Hildeby have a chance? He's 21
2x 1000 games nhlers (Steen/Stajan)remember the year we had 5 on team canada plus alex steen on sweden? how did that work out for us?
I think we'd all agree that success at WJC doesn't = future superstar
HOWEVER not having a single prospect at the WJC, is that a black eye for our prospect pool?
I know we'd all argue there is zero reason for Voit not to be considered and Minten may have garnered more attention if he held a different passport.
I just think you generally want to see your guys making best on best teams in their (relative) age group.
As a snapshot for the quality of prospects specifically in the U20 age range that are eligible for the WJC, it's not good, no. We can argue that Voit deserves to be there - whatever, at the end of the day, he was clearly not an absolute lock, and in general we're lacking legitimate quality prospects in that age range. In saying that, I don't necessarily think it's poor scouting, but more a reflection of limited draft picks (and to a lesser extent, no Russian team at the WJC).
We've only had 8 picks in the past two drafts, including no 1st rounders. Of those 8 picks, two are Russians (not eligible), Knies was at the WJC this past summer but is now too old, and Hildeby is also too old. So really, the only players in our prospect pool who were even eligible (I think) were Voit (5th rounder 2021, who likely almost made the team), Lisowsky (7th rounder 2022), Moldenhauer (3rd rounder 2022), and Minten (2nd rounder 2022, also likely a borderline player).
As a snapshot for the quality of prospects specifically in the U20 age range that are eligible for the WJC, it's not good, no. We can argue that Voit deserves to be there - whatever, at the end of the day, he was clearly not an absolute lock, and in general we're lacking legitimate quality prospects in that age range. In saying that, I don't necessarily think it's poor scouting, but more a reflection of limited draft picks (and to a lesser extent, no Russian team at the WJC).
We've only had 8 picks in the past two drafts, including no 1st rounders. Of those 8 picks, two are Russians (not eligible), Knies was at the WJC this past summer but is now too old, and Hildeby is also too old. So really, the only players in our prospect pool who were even eligible (I think) were Voit (5th rounder 2021, who likely almost made the team), Lisowsky (7th rounder 2022), Moldenhauer (3rd rounder 2022), and Minten (2nd rounder 2022, also likely a borderline player).
This and what shouldn't be lost is the number of draft picks from drafts from 2018-2020 are starting to show show at the pro level:
- Sandin and Durzi as NHL regulars from 2018
- Holmberg, Kral, Hollowell, and now SDA getting their NHL cup of coffee
- Roberston from 2019 trying to earn his NHL minutes
- Kokkonen, Abramov, and Abrusseze progressing in the AHL now
- Hirvonen, Niemela, Ovchinnikov doing well in pro leagues overseas
- Villeneuve in the AHL developing nicely
- Tverberg having a great college career so far
Not all will make it to the NHL, let along be regulars, or impact players but there is a ton of promising depth from the 2018 to 2020 drafts.
Didn't Simmonds say he would retire if not playing for leafs?... I feel like Edmonton isn't a place that could convince him otherwise.According to Seravelli, Oilers interested in adding a physical element with Kane injured.
Leafs would let Simmonds go for practically anything as to get him active and playing again.
Didn't Simmonds say he would retire if not playing for leafs?... I feel like Edmonton isn't a place that could convince him otherwise.
I think we might have a player here.
I would ask what the couple posters who hated this pick in the summer think now, but they'd probably just move the goal posts somehow to downplay him.
I didn’t comment on the pick. It’s a 5th round pick, so always a long shot. But with his current team, he’s over .5 PPG. That’s fairly elite company for a 19 year old in the KHL.I would ask what the couple posters who hated this pick in the summer think now, but they'd probably just move the goal posts somehow to downplay him.
I didn’t comment on the pick. It’s a 5th round pick, so always a long shot. But with his current team, he’s over .5 PPG. That’s fairly elite company for a 19 year old in the KHL.
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19-Year Old KHL Players - Regular Season Stats
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