Prospect Info: Marlies/Prospects Thread - 2023-23 Season Edition

[LeafChief]

They both play C no? I'm assuming Bedard would get Stankoven and Minten's PP1 minutes.

Minten has played a bunch on Stankoven's wing. They stack lines.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Menzinger]

Having a great game

 

[Northernguy10]

Agree with most of the above, but would add Kral. He seems like one of the guys most ready for some NHL work when healthy and I believe he can play both the left and right side.

I really like Kral...He reminds me a little of Stralman ...Would be nice if he developed to that level.

 

[Prominence]

They both play C no? I'm assuming Bedard would get Stankoven and Minten's PP1 minutes.

I've seen parts of 3 games. If Kamloops is losing, they do stack stankoven and minten from time to time. Even-strength, bankier plays with stankoven while Minten plays on the second line.

 

[Morgs]

They both play C no? I'm assuming Bedard would get Stankoven and Minten's PP1 minutes.

Stankoven is a RW that takes the RH faceoffs. Bankier & Minten have swapped at C for the 1st line this season.

in the completely unlikely event Bedard was traded to Kamloops, he likely would take over 1C with Stankoven, and Minten would be back at 2C with 1PP time. There's a chance they could stack it and make Bedard 1LW or 1C and put Minten on the line too though as they would be the clear best 3 F.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Voit 1+2

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Voit now at 46 pts in 26 games and is on pace for 120 pts. Just insane production

 

[ULF_55]

Voit now at 46 pts in 26 games and is on pace for 120 pts. Just insane production

Don't believe I've ever seen him play, unless it might have been in a prospects tournament.
How many, to use a baseball analogy, tools does he pocess?
Example: NHL Scout's Analysis: Inside the player evaluation process

Skating
Hockey IQ
Physicality
Offense
Defense

Ty Voit

January 2024 - The injury bug has struck Voit once again. After starting his season late due to a shoulder injury suffered at Traverse City over the summer, Voit made his professional debut with the Newfoundland Growlers and scored eight points in five games. Voit was then called up to the...

dobberprospects.com

Undersized playmaking forward who plays the game at a high pace. Great vision and passing ability but will need to improve his overall quickness and add strength to take advantage of his offensive tools at the NHL level.

Ty Voit - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Ty Voit, 2003-06-10 Pittsburgh, PA, USA USA. Most recently in the ECHL with Cincinnati Cyclones. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Being a one trick pony, example a great shot, isn't enough to make you a NHL player.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Don't believe I've ever seen him play, unless it might have been in a prospects tournament.
How many, to use a baseball analogy, tools does he pocess?
Example: NHL Scout's Analysis: Inside the player evaluation process

Skating
Hockey IQ
Physicality
Offense
Defense

Ty Voit

January 2024 - The injury bug has struck Voit once again. After starting his season late due to a shoulder injury suffered at Traverse City over the summer, Voit made his professional debut with the Newfoundland Growlers and scored eight points in five games. Voit was then called up to the...

dobberprospects.com

Ty Voit - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Ty Voit, 2003-06-10 Pittsburgh, PA, USA USA. Most recently in the ECHL with Cincinnati Cyclones. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Being a one trick pony, example a great shot, isn't enough to make you a NHL player.

Physicality doesn't get its own category for most teams. It is usually lumped together with work ethic and defense (and sometimes even hockey intelligence), while offense is usually split up between shooting, passing, and sometimes puck handling/hands (it can sometimes be included with shooting/passing).

Fans care more about "physicality" than teams do... Physicality for most teams is an ability to be good in tight, either along the boards or in front of the net, and there are a lot of "non-physical" players who do well in that regard and a lot of "physical" players who suck in that regard.

 

[4thline]

Re Voit, I wouldn't say that I'm an expert by any means, but from the little I've seen I think he's got U21 Marner upside and role. 60 point ( no more than 15-20 goal) playmaking winger, getting by on hands/edgework/ vision tenacious but weak, and not a burner. I think he'll be that player in the N or the A, nothing in between (well maybe a little higher A numbers), and is much more likely to be a AAAA minor leaguer than a 60 point NHLer.

The classic boom or bust that we're supposedly riddled with

 

[ULF_55]

Physicality doesn't get its own category for most teams. It is usually lumped together with work ethic and defense (and sometimes even hockey intelligence), while offense is usually split up between shooting, passing, and sometimes puck handling/hands (it can sometimes be included with shooting/passing).

Fans care more about "physicality" than teams do... Physicality for most teams is an ability to be good in tight, either along the boards or in front of the net, and there are a lot of "non-physical" players who do well in that regard and a lot of "physical" players who suck in that regard.

Not my suggestion, but it is this guys.

Jason BukalaMarch 1, 2022, 12:07 PM

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[Gabriel426]

Re Voit, I wouldn't say that I'm an expert by any means, but from the little I've seen I think he's got U21 Marner upside and role. 60 point ( no more than 15-20 goal) playmaking winger, getting by on hands/edgework/ vision tenacious but weak, and not a burner. I think he'll be that player in the N or the A, nothing in between (well maybe a little higher A numbers), and is much more likely to be a AAAA minor leaguer than a 60 point NHLer.

The classic boom or bust that we're supposedly riddled with

Could he be our Breyden Point?

 

[4thline]

Could he be our Breyden Point?

Again not an expert but not a great comparable IMO. Significantly smaller, hasn't shown the goal scoring, and isn't a C, even in the OHL.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Don't believe I've ever seen him play, unless it might have been in a prospects tournament.
How many, to use a baseball analogy, tools does he pocess?
Example: NHL Scout's Analysis: Inside the player evaluation process

Skating
Hockey IQ
Physicality
Offense
Defense

Ty Voit

January 2024 - The injury bug has struck Voit once again. After starting his season late due to a shoulder injury suffered at Traverse City over the summer, Voit made his professional debut with the Newfoundland Growlers and scored eight points in five games. Voit was then called up to the...

dobberprospects.com

Ty Voit - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Ty Voit, 2003-06-10 Pittsburgh, PA, USA USA. Most recently in the ECHL with Cincinnati Cyclones. Complete player biography and stats.

www.eliteprospects.com

Being a one trick pony, example a great shot, isn't enough to make you a NHL player.

In hockey, to make the NHL these days you need good to great skating and a high hockey IQ. He seems to fall into that category for both. Shifty skater that does a great job drawing defenders and opens up lanes for his team mates. Marner was doing the same thing in Junior. High end play maker with his assist totals and primary points carrying a team with no notable players.

Not sure about his defensive play. As far as I know, I don't think he's a physical player but both those things can be developed with time if he doesn't become a top 6 forward.

If I had to rate his skills:

Skating - 4.5/5
Shot - 2.5/5
Passing - 5/5
Hockey IQ - 5/5
Defense - 1.5-2/5
Puck Handling - 4.5/5

I'm not going to rate physicality because like Seaofblue said, physicality can mean something different to everyone.


Perhaps those who have been watching the OHL this year can chime in on if my assessment is correct?

 

[kerk]

 

[BertCorbeau]

Good for him, he's had a good start to the season

 

[kerk]

here's some SDA highlights for ppl who are gonna come in here and ask about him

 

[ULF_55]

Interesting move.

Elite has him at 5:10, 172lbs.

Someone going down?

 

[LeafSteel]

Interesting move.

Elite has him at 5:10, 172lbs.

Someone going down?

Wondering if this means Simmonds is going to the Oilers, as per the rumor from last night.

 

[stickty111]

In hockey, to make the NHL these days you need good to great skating and a high hockey IQ. He seems to fall into that category for both. Shifty skater that does a great job drawing defenders and opens up lanes for his team mates. Marner was doing the same thing in Junior. High end play maker with his assist totals and primary points carrying a team with no notable players.

Not sure about his defensive play. As far as I know, I don't think he's a physical player but both those things can be developed with time if he doesn't become a top 6 forward.

If I had to rate his skills:

Skating - 4.5/5
Shot - 2.5/5
Passing - 5/5
Hockey IQ - 5/5
Defense - 1.5-2/5
Puck Handling - 4.5/5

I'm not going to rate physicality because like Seaofblue said, physicality can mean something different to everyone.


Perhaps those who have been watching the OHL this year can chime in on if my assessment is correct?

I would drop his skating to 4/5
Shot upgrade to 3/5
Passing and IQ are probably correct
Defence is a little low. I would say 2.5 maybe even 3. He's not a bad defensive player.
Puck handling correct maybe downgrade to 4.

 

[kerk]

can he teach rielly how to shoot

 

[Gabriel426]

Again not an expert but not a great comparable IMO. Significantly smaller, hasn't shown the goal scoring, and isn't a C, even in the OHL.

Thanks. I guess he is pretty much Bracco 2.0.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Wondering if this means Simmonds is going to the Oilers, as per the rumor from last night.

What was the rumor?

 

[4thline]

Thanks. I guess he is pretty much Bracco 2.0.

A version of Bracco that cares more about hockey and is less of an (alleged) problematic douche is a pretty great prospect for a 5th rounder, and likely leans toward the boom of boom/bust.