He was one of the top ncaa undrafted recruits for his year iirc. Over-rated by detroit fans (nothing against them) and put up horrible underlying advanced stats (rapm) each year.
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stickty111
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Hilderby 26 saves on 28 shots including saving 4 out of 5 shots in the shootout to win the game. He's up to a .917 SV%
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In fairness, that was almost a decade ago lol (he signed in 2013). DeKeyser is 32 now.... he was a good d-man for a while but injuries destroyed his body over time. He had a PTO with the Canucks and was horrible in training camp, and then recently got a PTO with the Marlies
Hirvonen’s stats may not look good with 6 points in 15 games but there is something wrong with his team’s offence. He actually leads all forwards on his team in points.
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He was ok last night... steady, not much more. Good shot from the point, but Lilly did all the work for that. He's a good AHL option now, no real NHL upside.
When our D are healthy, there really isn't even room for him on the Marlies.
He will need at least a year with the Marlies anyway, just to see where he is at. The Marlies are going to need an influx of offensive talent.
I’m really hoping that next year both Roni and Topi are eligible to play with Marlies and we finally have them in the fold within the organization…….?
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The Marlies should be stacked next year with a lot of skill coming in if all of Amirov, Hirvonen, Niemela, Voit, Tverberg, Minten and maybe Koster make the jump. Maybe even Knies if he can't hack it right away with the Leafs
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If Gretzky had that move in his arsenal back in the day he’d have probably another 100 goals. No doubt he had the hands and patience to do it too, and that was his office behind the net. That’s just a goal that’s come out of nowhere in the last 5 years, so creative
Minten is eligible next year? I thought dumb CHL rule would still be in effect on him
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My mistake. Thought he'd be 20 by next season. Looks like leafs or the W next year.
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Yeah I knew it was a while ago after seeing his age. I recall Wings fans hyping him. Looks like his career is near done at this point.
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Tverberg goal and assist yesterday
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Do we have more info on Petruzzelli. Such as why the Wings never signed him and such. With Kallgren looking ordinary and Woll always hurt (thought would still want to give him another shot), wondering if Petruzzelli has what it takes to even get some games in this year.
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Puts him up to 11 points in 9 games, 7 of those points goals. Playing a lead role in the offence I hope he keeps it up!
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I know a lot of people are likely going to say talent/skill is better than all and I am not forgetting the Burke/Hunter draft years but one thing has become painfully obvious to me is that we do not have a great mix of prospects.
When I say that, I mean in that we don't have a guy internally that is going to replace Muzzin....we don't have some guys that could realistically join the 4th line and be physical/fight/provide energy/be good defensively. Freddy Gauthier's upside was maybe 3C if he panned out or 4C floor...I would never spend a 1st on a 4th line guy but the odds of all your 5'9-5'10 defenseman making the NHL is low.
Knies was such a welcome addition to the prospect pool because he was a vastly different ingredient than what we had to date. Do you think we should try to add different styles to our mix?
I think we all thought it was easier to find bottom 6 guys that were interchangeable every year but sometimes it's good to have home grown guy that can be apart of the group.
When I say that, I mean in that we don't have a guy internally that is going to replace Muzzin....we don't have some guys that could realistically join the 4th line and be physical/fight/provide energy/be good defensively. Freddy Gauthier's upside was maybe 3C if he panned out or 4C floor...I would never spend a 1st on a 4th line guy but the odds of all your 5'9-5'10 defenseman making the NHL is low.
Knies was such a welcome addition to the prospect pool because he was a vastly different ingredient than what we had to date. Do you think we should try to add different styles to our mix?
I think we all thought it was easier to find bottom 6 guys that were interchangeable every year but sometimes it's good to have home grown guy that can be apart of the group.
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You need a well balanced NHL roster. A mix of skill, speed, grit, some players with size..... your prospect pool should have some of that same balance.
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I think so too.
I remember getting shit on *hard* because I wanted us to draft Hague and Carlo in their respective years and everyone told me the offensive upside wasn't there...we can't have 6 puck movers.
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He didn't want to sign with them because he felt like he wasn't going to get a shot.
He felt like we had a better opportunity. Scott was always hurt and after that, Woll was the only other guy.
Right now, he is the Marlies starter and if he keeps up his current play, he may still have the job once Kallgren comes back (at least until Woll is healthy).
That's (edit-arguably) true on defense, upfront we actually have a pretty good mix of skillsets, it just gets blurred because of size and everyone producing/having strong upside.
Knies/Minten/Tvergberg all hit to hurt, Tverberg is the smallest at a solid 6'0 190
Kressler/Hirvonen are both short but well built, both play high traffic, defensively intelligent games.
Then even in the "smurf" class there's a nice mix of shooters/burners/playmakers (often two in the same body)
On D we don't seem to have a mix because it's such a vanilla pool.
Niemela/Koster/Kral/Villeneuve/Kokkonen is just a lot of positional defense and solid first pass.
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It's not about having 6 puck movers, if you can't score above a certain minimum level as a 6'4 D playing against 16 year olds that's a red flag that there's something fundamentally wrong with your game that will prevent you from making the NHL. Even with 0 offensive IQ, you should be getting enough touches playing top minutes that you get a regular trickle of 2nd assists. You don't need to be Karlsson but you do need to be able to make a first pass consistently or every dump in will be in your corner and you'll get swarmed with forecheckers every shift.
That being said, Hague and Carlo didn't have those concerns. If anything it was Hague's defense that was the question mark at the draft.
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I remember Hunter kept going for them...6'4-6'5 guys...that had zero chance.
I remember Hague being an absolute prick, I thought the potential of a 2nd pairing guy was there, worst case a 3rd pairing that you enjoy having around. Not the worst value on a 2nd round pick.
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He was a pretty safe bet to at least turn into Franson with his skillset at the time.
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We could.. we'd just suck defensively and be stuck in our zone. LOL
Looking back at our drafts... with full hindsight, the only real time in recent years, where there was opportunity to pick bigger, more rounded guys, was the 2020 draft, with really just Guhle and Schneider as the options. Maybe this past draft there were some guys, if we kept our 1st round pick... but really, there hasn't been a lot of opportunity for us in recent years, even though I completely agree with you.
2017 and 2016 drafts we picked a bunch of defensive fridges, and they all busted on us... not a reason for not picking them going forward of course.
Even if you look at 2017, and Rasanen as our second pick... there isn't a singular D picked after him at the 59th pick, that you'd say.. oh, we should have picked him instead.
2016 Korshkov was just a bad pick... guys picked just after him include Andrew Peeke (would have been great to have), of course DeBrincat, Kyrou...
2018 Sandin and Durzi were good picks for their positions.
2019 we picked Robertson... he's outperformed his draft spot, and you can't really say.. hey we should have drafted X instead.
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