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How good are the Leafs and the Panthers? Look at the trade the Lightning just made... Florida, Tampa and Toronto are the beasts..

I sure hope we beat whoever we face, first round, but man, its going to be the Stanley Cup, in the very first round.

Fans win, on this one.
 
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4thline said:
Or make a reactionary GM change that sees the newcomer absolutely hemorrhage talent and value in an unforced effort to "clean house" and remake the org in their image
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But how often does that really happen unless maybe ownership or senior management were pushing that? Most clubs that have had any level of success seem to want to keep all their best pieces and the new guy just does tweaks. The whole point of a regime change is "we have all this good stuff and the guy couldn't make it work, so new guy, make these pieces work" . Rather than change the players they change GM/Coach/President whoever. I admit Edmonton did more than just tweaks when they brought Chiarelli in but that was the exception (man turned out to be a bonehead and unlucky as well). If Dubas is gone after another bad playoff it is likely that one of the core is moved, but if he stays after another bad playoff I think thats just as likely. Nobody is blowing it up no matter what some extremists here like to suggest.
 
nuck said:
Actually Friedman mentioned it the first time he brought up Knies maybe getting a look. He actually said it looks like the club wants to get both these guys in some games before the end of the season for a look. Not sure if he was referring to the Leafs or the Marlies tho.
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I thought those comments were about Knies and Abruzzese, not Tverberg?
All three playing pro would be cool.
It’s a pretty nice next wave, either way. Before any potential additions and even excluding Amirov until he beats his health concerns.
 
nuck said:
I am on the fence about keeping both Robertson and Abruzzese. The whole argument for drafting best skill available and dangles over grit was so they could trade the surplus for positions of actual need. On a club that already has Willie and Mitch what are these guys futures? We are talking here about adding players like Comtois and were in the hunt for Hagel so do we need more Marner lites? Don't get me wrong I am glad they haven't emptied the cupboard for a rental but if they want to add a young cost controlled player at a position of real need something of real value has to go the other way.

Do you see something that sets one of the Nick's above the other? Or are you maybe looking ahead to what the club may need to have available if one of the top wingers goes (so keep both)? I agree all of that group could have impact next season, but also that might be two years away and the window is already open.
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I don't subscribe to needing drastically different skillsets. Not to mention both Abruzzese and NRob are actually pretty well-rounded offensive players that play balls-to-the-wall and aren't afraid of forechecking, puck retrieval, and being fesity. I do believe in chemistry, and I feel both of them have interesting profiles that could translate into productive top-9 F roles and fit well in Keefe's system.

But it does feel like you see 5'9" and that's your issue.
 
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Menzinger said:
He's got technical elements to his game that he needs to work on still in terms of development. The Gophers have a good track record with skill development which is why I think he may end up returning + having consistency in his environment I like rather than constantly moving guys around.

I'm not opposed to him heading to the AHL either. But think he's likely still a season away from being a full time NHLer.
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I'm not against leaving him there to overripen, but I don't see it being the smartest thing to do.

He'll be 20, the normal age of a CHL player moving to the AHL. He's already statistically put up an almost PPG NCAA season as a freshman, who wasn't one of the "go to guys" early in the season (IIRC it took 10~ games to get off the 3rd line). Not to mention he left for the WJC and the Olympics and still never missed a beat. He's one of the most complete offensive players in all of college with an elite transition ability, and he's more than physically ready.

Even if we play him solely in the AHL next season it means we can develop his Toronto system play, get him comfortable here, use our development team and facilities, etc.
 
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aingefan said:
I thought those comments were about Knies and Abruzzese, not Tverberg?
All three playing pro would be cool.
It’s a pretty nice next wave, either way. Before any potential additions and even excluding Amirov until he beats his health concerns.
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Oops misread your post. Not Tverberg at all.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
I think it clipped his cage, but if he was just wearing a visor, I think it would have missed his head entirely. His cage juts out a little bit.
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In all fairness, you may be right on this. I watched it on a phone, so I couldn't see the cage.
 
I was at the Marlies game today. Not much positive to say about it other than Hutch having a pretty solid outing, especially in the second. Everyone else was pretty invisible.

of course it was Leivo who scored the winner.
 
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Peters: Minnesota’s Ben Meyers tops college free agent list

The recent Olympian headlines the list of coveted college free agents.
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1) C Ben Meyers
2) LW Bobby Trivigno
3) RD Jake Livingstone
4) LD Brandon Scanlin (NYR)
5) C Marc McLaughlin (BOS)
6) RW Corey Andonovski (PIT)
7) RW Ethen Frank*
8) C Parker Ford
9) RW Taylor Ward (LAK)
10) C Noah Philp
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G Clay Stevenson
RD Zach Metsa*
G Brandon Bussi
C Riese Gaber
G Jaxon Stauber
RD Nick Blankenburg*

* AHL contract candidates.

Meyers is this year's Steeves. Leafs may also consider Livingstone and Trivigno, but I think other teams will prioritize them more than we will. Meyers is the main guy the Leafs should/will target.

Any of those AHL contract guys would be fine for an AHL contract, but I don't think any of them are difference makers. They are more just ECHL depth which could work their way up to the AHL, but Frank likely gets an ELC from someone. Spencer Meier from St. Cloud State is another one.
 
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Morgs said:
I don't subscribe to needing drastically different skillsets. Not to mention both Abruzzese and NRob are actually pretty well-rounded offensive players that play balls-to-the-wall and aren't afraid of forechecking, puck retrieval, and being fesity. I do believe in chemistry, and I feel both of them have interesting profiles that could translate into productive top-9 F roles and fit well in Keefe's system.

But it does feel like you see 5'9" and that's your issue.
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I guess to some extent thats true. Someone has to dig the pucks out of the corners and these guys arent Hyman or Bunting. Robertson strikes me as more of a Willie type finisher and Abruzzese more of a Marner type line driver so prototypical top 6 guys based on the clubs current 3rd line configuration.

A player like Knies fits anywhere but only one guy can handle the puck at a time so where do the two Nicks fit if you were to give them an opportuity tomorrow? Maybe Robertson beside JT if he has the strength and pace to be a puck hound as he is thicker than Abruzzese but he has also missed a lot of hockey over the years based on injuries so is that his best use? Maybe part of it is I can't imagine either of these guys thriving beside Kampf. He may well not be around after 2023 so the 3rd line would have a much different look after his departure so that could create opportunities that arent there right now.
 
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Knies iT said:
This guy will be a top 5 heavyweight the minute he steps in the show.

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I really hope the Leafs don't let him go and sign him to an NHL deal next season. Heck... I would even try to sign him for the rest of the season but I don't think the Leafs would want to risk waivers with him (same for Ho-Sang).
 
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SprDaVE said:
I really hope the Leafs don't let him go and sign him to an NHL deal next season. Heck... I would even try to sign him for the rest of the season but I don't think the Leafs would want to risk waivers with him (same for Ho-Sang).
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They won't require waivers if they sign an NHL contract.
 
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