Prospect Info: Marlies & Prospect Discussion

[Judas Tavares]

Niemela 1 goal and an assist.
Tverberg 2 assists. I think Tverberg is gonna be a bottom 6 regular for the Leafs in the future.

 

[1specter]

Bellows 2 goals. I do wonder if it's worth throwing a league min at him

 

[Knies iT]

Niemela 1 goal and an assist.
Tverberg 2 assists. I think Tverberg is gonna be a bottom 6 regular for the Leafs in the future.

For me, outside of the Cowan/Minten/Grebyonkin tier, Tverberg's the next best forward prospect. I'd put him ahead of Hirvonen/Voit/Steeves/etc.

 

[Visnovsky]

Any word on Voit after the collision?

 

[613Leafer]

Niemela and Hildeby keep chugging along with very good seasons.

 

[Thornbury]

Niemela and Hildeby keep chugging along with very good seasons.

For me the big question is whether they'll be far enough along by next season to make the Leafs, or if they'll need one more year with the Marlies. And I hope we hang on to both of them past the trade deadline.

 

[613Leafer]

For me the big question is whether they'll be far enough along by next season to make the Leafs, or if they'll need one more year with the Marlies. And I hope we hang on to both of them past the trade deadline.

Niemela - I would guess yes. He's been playing in professional men's hockey for like 5 years now.

Hildeby - even if he arguably is ready, I'm guessing they'll want to pair Woll with a veteran next season (even if it's a 1B/2A guy with the expectation that Woll is the starter). But, he'd also be the first callup in case of injury I would think, and get more of a mix of AHL/NHL minutes.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Niemela - I would guess yes. He's been playing in professional men's hockey for like 5 years now.

Hildeby - even if he arguably is ready, I'm guessing they'll want to pair Woll with a veteran next season (even if it's a 1B/2A guy with the expectation that Woll is the starter). But, he'd also be the first callup in case of injury I would think, and get more of a mix of AHL/NHL minutes.

The year after next they could have an influx of youth

Hildeby
Niemela
Cowan (if he doesn't make it next year)
Minten (if he doesn't make it next year)
Grebyonkin

Maybe Kokkonen in a depth role

 

[LeafParade]

Hildeby - even if he arguably is ready, I'm guessing they'll want to pair Woll with a veteran next season (even if it's a 1B/2A guy with the expectation that Woll is the starter). But, he'd also be the first callup in case of injury I would think, and get more of a mix of AHL/NHL minutes.

What are the chances that they can convince GTA local Cam Talbot to leave LA in the offseason?

 

[TheDoldrums]

Cowan dropped down to the 3rd line with Poitras put on the top line



Both our boys still on the PP. A little bit surprised with how big an offensive role Mintens been given but he's got the kind of game coaches love.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Cowan dropped down to the 3rd line with Poitras put on the top line

Both our boys still on the PP. A little bit surprised with how big an offensive role Mintens been given but he's got the kind of game coaches love.

I feel like the coach absolutely loves Minten, which doesn't seem shocking based on Minten's personality.

 

[conFABulator]

What are the chances that they can convince GTA local Cam Talbot to leave LA in the offseason?

This is a great discussion. Who can we think will graduate to the NHL and when will they?

Our future looks quite a bit different (better) if over the next two years we can add (and keep and continue to develop) players to the big league roster at low cap hit.

Knies (This and next contract)
Robertson (Does he become a fixture?)
Liljegren (How much and how long on next deal)
Woll (This and next contract)
Hiddleby (Does he? When?)
Niemela (Does he? When?)
Gregor (RFA this offseason)
Benoit (RFA this offseason)
Timmins (RFA after next season)
Cowan (Does he? When?)
Minten (Does he? When?)
Holmberg (Is he anything?)
Kokkonen (Is the anything?)
AKhtiomov?
Tverberg?
Grebyonkin?


If we can add some of these guys to a roster that has Matthews, Marner (re-signed), Nylander (re-signed), Tavares (re-signed at deep discount), Rielly, Kampf, and Jarnkrok. Then we have a very solid core and depth with a lot of cap space (Bertuzzi and McCabe at numbers similar to this year?), Brodie or Tanev (on a Gio deal?).

Obviously, a few things have to break our way, but we could be looking at a roster in two years of:

Knies (3.2) Matthews (13.125) Nylander (10)
Bertuzzi (5.5) Cowan (.85) Marner (11.5)
Minten (.85) Tavares (3) Robertson (1.2)
Gregor (1) Kampf (2.4) Jarnkrok (2.1)
Holmberg (1)

Rielly (7.5) Liljegren (3.2)
McCabe (3.2) Niemela (1.2)
Benoit (1.2) Brodie/Tanev (2)
Kokkonen (1) Timmins (1.2)

Woll (3.2)
Hildeby (1.2)

and close to $20M (cap of $91.5M) to spend to upgrade where we need to and also to spend the following year when McDavid hits UFA.

We (Shanny and Treliving) have to make the right bets and offer the right deals but we could see this window remain open for another five years at least.

The year after next they could have an influx of youth

Hildeby
Niemela
Cowan (if he doesn't make it next year)
Minten (if he doesn't make it next year)
Grebyonkin

Maybe Kokkonen in a depth role

 

[ChazzMichaelMichaels]

Cowan dropped down to the 3rd line with Poitras put on the top line



Both our boys still on the PP. A little bit surprised with how big an offensive role Mintens been given but he's got the kind of game coaches love.

Ya, kinda surprising the way they're using Minten.

As a Knight's season ticket holder, pretty surprised how Bonk is on the 2nd PP as well. He doesn't even run the Knight's PP.

 

[ULF_55]

Ya, kinda surprising the way they're using Minten.

As a Knight's season ticket holder, pretty surprised how Bonk is on the 2nd PP as well. He doesn't even run the Knight's PP.

Is it surprising Cowan is net front presence?

He's not a big body at all.

 

[ChazzMichaelMichaels]

Is it surprising Cowan is net front presence?

He's not a big body at all.

Ya, I'd say so. He usually plays on the half wall but I suppose he has quick hands around the net and can really pressure PK'ers to win pucks back before they can clear the puck prolonging attacks. He'll surely slide to the side of the net and be an option down low and make plays lower.

 

[francis246]

Niemela 1 goal and an assist.
Tverberg 2 assists. I think Tverberg is gonna be a bottom 6 regular for the Leafs in the future.

Gives me Connor Brown, Zach Hyman vibes.

 

[Future]

Didn’t realize Topi was doing so well.

17 points in 22 games at 21 years old in his first full year in NA… that’s pretty significant.

 

[Moonman]

Did Hirvonen see that doctor yet?

 

[weems]

Canada vs Swiss starting at 9am on TSN

 

[shaner8989]

Minten goal. Him and Celebrini are unreal together

 

[Mitch nylander]

Minten looks great. Celebrini probably going to get suspended.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Both Minten and Cowan are on the PP and PK today as well, nice to see how much they're being relied upon. All situation guys.

Hope Celebrini isn't suspended long but Cowan might be the guy moved up to the top 6 if that is the case.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Cowan been quite but that's pretty solid considering how bad Wood and Yager have looked.

 

[DragoGrizzly]

Cowan has had a quite game, but I think it's mostly because of how bad Wood and Yager have looked.

Yeah I haven’t noticed Cowan at all. He doesn’t seem to be getting much icetime. Celebrini and Minten line has been great though (before the misconduct).

 

[weems]

Minten had a very strong game and looked very effective being the all situations 200ft player on a top line.

Speed was good and he was all around the puck.

I would be shocked if Minten doesn't at least turn into a useful NHL player.

Cowan didn't have a great game but the entire line he played on looked underwhelming.