Prospect Info: Marlies & Prospect Discussion

aingefan

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A big reason I really wanted to sign Mike Koster this past summer. He's now a free agent though.
I’m not sure how accurate PuckPedia is, but they have him Koster as signable until August 25.
They also had a different waiver eligibility for Marshall Rifai than capfriendly.
And the rights to Miettinen as ‘indefinite’.
 

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I’m not sure how accurate PuckPedia is, but they have him Koster as signable until August 25.
They also had a different waiver eligibility for Marshall Rifai than capfriendly.
And the rights to Miettinen as ‘indefinite’.

Koster and Miettinen are free agents since their rights expired last August (4 years since drafted our of the NCAA) and Rifai definitely requires waivers.
 

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If Grebs lands with the Marlies, I’d put him beside Minten. Minten’s maturity, leadership etc., would help ease the transition and Grebs fire and physicality might spark a bigger fire in Minten’s belly.
 
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Koster and Miettinen are free agents since their rights expired last August (4 years since drafted our of the NCAA) and Rifai definitely requires waivers.

The Rifai on waivers concerns me. I could see us losing him. A bit of later bloomer that is showing poise, maturity and hockey sense in both directions. I am not saying he is a game changer, but we need 7th and 8th d-men like him, Myers, and even Timmins.

I don't want us to lose guys like these guys like them, and Holmberg, Dewar, Lorentz and even opportunities for Cowan, Minten, and Grebenkin to ease in this year with 30 or 40 games each just because we didn't want to move on from Kampf, Jarnkrok and Liljegren. These three are fourth liners and bottom pairing D. Even if the kids can't bring what the outgoing vets bring, how much will it matter with limited ice time.

Maybe we keep Kampf until Dewar and Minten are healthy, maybe even increase Kampf's value with a decent start on a fourth line.

I also like keeping Murray so we don't lose him. That third goalie is important too, yes we have Hildeby but let's slow our role a bit there too.

Our goal is playoff success, a big part of this will be winning the division.

Trade those three guys, collect some draft capital, fee up cap space and create some space to inject youth this year so they are better next year or have value in a trade with the cap space we have freed up.
 
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Interesting player.
Small side, but fast and tenacious. Still 21.
Also interesting is Ty Voit. Small, crafty, creative. Also 21.
If you smushed these two together, you’d have a really intriguing guy, rather than two neat ones.

Some small NHL players (Centers) Played multiple games, mostly


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Koster and Miettinen are free agents since their rights expired last August (4 years since drafted our of the NCAA) and Rifai definitely requires waivers.
I could be mistaken but I think Miettinen was drafted out of Finland and moved to the NCAA after that.

Not sure if that has any bearing on his standing in terms of owning his rights.
 

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Koster and Miettinen are free agents since their rights expired last August (4 years since drafted our of the NCAA) and Rifai definitely requires waivers.
Yeah, I wonder where PP gets their info.
I vaguely recall some talk about extended timelines d/t covid.


This should be a very deep forward group, and it doesn't include guys like Voit, Quillan, Kressler and maybe Lisowsky who will play a role.



This will be the defence that likely starts the year aside from adding Rafai for Miller if he clears.
I like Tverberg getting reps at C.
But woukd like him getting time with sone offensive mates too. Maybe he’ll get some pp?
 

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It's fully buriable, so it's not a big deal, but they must think their development staff can fix him.

The only positives in his game I saw are having a long stick and a big body, he blocks shots and breaks up passes because of this.

His position and decision making was worse than I thought, and his puck skills aren't great.

It will be easier to judge where he is at with some time in the AHL, hoping they can simplify his game and give him a more structured environment, maybe he can be a bottom pairing D one day.
 

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It's fully buriable, so it's not a big deal, but they must think their development staff can fix him.

The only positives in his game I saw are having a long stick and a big body, he blocks shots and breaks up passes because of this.

His position and decision making was worse than I thought, and his puck skills aren't great.

It will be easier to judge where he is at with some time in the AHL, hoping they can simplify his game and give him a more structured environment, maybe he can be a bottom pairing D one day.
NHL body on a contract that can be fully buried = no risk 2 year look at what Webber can develop into.
 

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NHL body on a contract that can be fully buried = no risk 2 year look at what Webber can develop into.

A lot of people complained about contract spots not long ago...

I agree that it is no risk, but it also wasn't deserved and I think it'll amount to nothing.

Easily could be our 7th D a year from now.

There is a 0.001% chance.

He is lost on both sides of the puck, he has nothing outside of size and some raw athletic ability currently.

What does he do well that makes you think this?
 

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A lot of people complained about contract spots not long ago...

I agree that it is no risk, but it also wasn't deserved and I think it'll amount to nothing.



There is a 0.001% chance.

He is lost on both sides of the puck, he has nothing outside of size and some raw athletic ability currently.

What does he do well that makes you think this?

Born 17 minutes away from Hal Gill's home.
 
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A lot of people complained about contract spots not long ago...

I agree that it is no risk, but it also wasn't deserved and I think it'll amount to nothing.



There is a 0.001% chance.

He is lost on both sides of the puck, he has nothing outside of size and some raw athletic ability currently.

What does he do well that makes you think this?
He is a big defender/shot blocker that showed enough skill to be a top 100 draft pick.
Was named Hockey East's best defensive defenceman at university.

Is currently graded 6.5 on Dobber Prospects which references a 65% chance of becoming an NHL regular.
Doesn't need that much development to be a 7th D.
Bigger guys typically come into their own a bit later. I wish the team had held on to and done a similar contract with Justin Brazeau/Mason marchment.
 

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He is a big defender/shot blocker that showed enough skill to be a top 100 draft pick.

He was just traded for less than a top 100 draft pick after years of developing.

Was named Hockey East's best defensive defenceman at university.

He blocks shots, he processes the game so slow.

Is currently graded 6.5 on Dobber Prospects which references a 65% chance of becoming an NHL regular.
Doesn't need that much development to be a 7th D.
Bigger guys typically come into their own a bit later. I wish the team had held on to and done a similar contract with Justin Brazeau/Mason marchment.

Well, he appears to be #10ish on the depth chart, so assuming we are losing a bunch of players or he is making big steps.
 

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With Rifai clearing waivers, add him for Miller into yesterday's final pre season game and I expect thats our D opening day.

Forwards are kind of locked in but still some competition

Alex Steeves
Kyle Clifford
Joseph Blandisi
Robert Mastrosimone
Zach Solow
Nick Abruzzese
Ryan Tverberg
Roni Hirvonen
Jacob Quillan
Ty Voit
Fraser Minten
Nikita Grebyonkin

Brayden Kressler
Logan Shaw (RW/C)
Matthew Barbolini
Sam Stevens
Marko Sikic
Matthieu Gosselin
Jacob Frasca
Cédric Paré
Alex Nylander

The locks probably
Steeves
Blandisi
Mastrosimone
Abruzzese
Tverberg
Hirvonen
Quillan
Grebyonkin
Kressler
Shaw
Nylander

One spot left for others to battle all though Clifford and Solow probably have the leg up there. This doesn't include Minten who will obviously be an every day member
The Marlies have incredible depth this year
 
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With Rifai clearing waivers, add him for Miller into yesterday's final pre season game and I expect thats our D opening day.

Forwards are kind of locked in but still some competition

Alex Steeves
Kyle Clifford
Joseph Blandisi
Robert Mastrosimone
Zach Solow
Nick Abruzzese
Ryan Tverberg
Roni Hirvonen
Jacob Quillan
Ty Voit
Fraser Minten
Nikita Grebyonkin

Brayden Kressler
Logan Shaw (RW/C)
Matthew Barbolini
Sam Stevens
Marko Sikic
Matthieu Gosselin
Jacob Frasca
Cédric Paré
Alex Nylander

The locks probably
Steeves
Blandisi
Mastrosimone
Abruzzese
Tverberg
Hirvonen
Quillan
Grebyonkin
Kressler
Shaw
Nylander

One spot left for others to battle all though Clifford and Solow probably have the leg up there. This doesn't include Minten who will obviously be an every day member
The Marlies have incredible depth this year

I feel like we might have added too many RD, Niemela was just playing LD from the looks of the previous line up.
 

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For the best. Didn’t earn a shot, even at 9 games.

In my, admittedly limited, viewings i think he struggled mentally with the pace. I think he’s quicker than he showed but he was overthinking the game and not reacting as quickly as he can. Good experience for him to learn and grow from for next year.

Still think he’ll need AHL seasoning too
 

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