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meefer said:
That he has quickly picked up the language leads me to think that Grebs is a going to transition to the North American game faster than most. New language acquisition is a sign of an agile mind. It will be interesting to see how this kid has progressed by January.
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Agreed. Also, a guy who is dedicated to learning the language sounds like a guy who is dedicated to staying in North America. A good sign.
 
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meefer said:
That he has quickly picked up the language leads me to think that Grebs is a going to transition to the North American game faster than most. New language acquisition is a sign of an agile mind. It will be interesting to see how this kid has progressed by January.
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Historically the transition from Russia to NA is one of the hardest culturally that we see for NHL prospects. Lots of Russians do not grow up with English as a second language as opposed to other European nations. This leads to a ton of Russians feeling isolated and homesick. Understandably.

It's very very encouraging to hear that Nikita is seemingly adapting to NA culture well. It may seem like a small thing, but it will go a very long way into helping him on the ice if he is not battling demons in between his ears off the ice.

Aside from Rodion Amirov, who tragically lost his battle with cancer, Nikita is arguably our best Russian prospect since Nikolai Kulemin. Which was almost 20 years ago. Even the transition for Kule I don't remember being super smooth either. If not for guys like Grabo, Antro and Poni we could have seen a very different outcome. I seem to remember Antro basically being his interpreter for the majority of his early years as an NHL'er.

All that to say, I am very happy to hear guys specifically name him as a guy they like to be around. Being comfortable at that age is not easy for anyone, let alone a kid trying to make the best league in the world in a country he has little to know clue about. Very excited to see how he develops over this season
 
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Leafs haven't had a great success with Russian players.

I would say Samsonov and Mikheyev are our most recent regulars.
Soshnikov, Barabonov, Marchenko and Ozhiganov are other recent players.
 
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I've watched him every year in Junior. His game is ultra simple. As soon as he gets the puck he fires it off to the first available outlet. He doesn't have hands or scramble well, but his first pass is pretty good and hard, and you rarely see him need to scramble.

His strength is that opposing forwards HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE him.

He will push players out of the front of the net and make them fight for every inch of space without taking penalties. He is one of the better players I've seen at being able to do that without taking penalties. He excels at covering the front of the net. Any player that gets frustrated with him he is ready to fight and knock their head off. He also stands up for his teammates like they're family. Pure defensive guy that is difficult to play against.

I'm very interested to see how his career goes because he has no offensive upside, but is tremendous in his own zone especially in front of the net.
 
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Tiger Trauma said:
I've watched him every year in Junior. His game is ultra simple. As soon as he gets the puck he fires it off to the first available outlet. He doesn't have hands or scramble well, but his first pass is pretty good and hard, and you rarely see him need to scramble.

His strength is that opposing forwards HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE him.

He will push players out of the front of the net and make them fight for every inch of space without taking penalties. He is one of the better players I've seen at being able to do that without taking penalties. He excels at covering the front of the net. Any player that gets frustrated with him he is ready to fight and knock their head off. He also stands up for his teammates like they're family. Pure defensive guy that is difficult to play against.

I'm very interested to see how his career goes because he has no offensive upside, but is tremendous in his own zone especially in front of the net.
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Nice insight on him, thanks.
 
Twine Tickler said:
Historically the transition from Russia to NA is one of the hardest culturally that we see for NHL prospects. Lots of Russians do not grow up with English as a second language as opposed to other European nations. This leads to a ton of Russians feeling isolated and homesick. Understandably.

It's very very encouraging to hear that Nikita is seemingly adapting to NA culture well. It may seem like a small thing, but it will go a very long way into helping him on the ice if he is not battling demons in between his ears off the ice.

Aside from Rodion Amirov, who tragically lost his battle with cancer, Nikita is arguably our best Russian prospect since Nikolai Kulemin. Which was almost 20 years ago. Even the transition for Kule I don't remember being super smooth either. If not for guys like Grabo, Antro and Poni we could have seen a very different outcome. I seem to remember Antro basically being his interpreter for the majority of his early years as an NHL'er.

All that to say, I am very happy to hear guys specifically name him as a guy they like to be around. Being comfortable at that age is not easy for anyone, let alone a kid trying to make the best league in the world in a country he has little to know clue about. Very excited to see how he develops over this season
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Good thing about our system is that he'll be playing with Artur Akhtyamov, Vyacheslav Peksa and have Andropov as a Player development head.

I wouldn't mind bringing Kulemin on an AHL contract
 
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Tiger Trauma said:
I've watched him every year in Junior. His game is ultra simple. As soon as he gets the puck he fires it off to the first available outlet. He doesn't have hands or scramble well, but his first pass is pretty good and hard, and you rarely see him need to scramble.

His strength is that opposing forwards HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE him.

He will push players out of the front of the net and make them fight for every inch of space without taking penalties. He is one of the better players I've seen at being able to do that without taking penalties. He excels at covering the front of the net. Any player that gets frustrated with him he is ready to fight and knock their head off. He also stands up for his teammates like they're family. Pure defensive guy that is difficult to play against.

I'm very interested to see how his career goes because he has no offensive upside, but is tremendous in his own zone especially in front of the net.
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We seem to be doing OK with these defense first, physical types, I wouldn't mind throwing a few more darts at puck movers though

Just to even things out a bit and to give us more PP QB options
 
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Kiwi said:
We seem to be doing OK with these defense first, physical types, I wouldn't mind throwing a few more darts at puck movers though

Just to even things out a bit and to give us more PP QB options
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A big reason I really wanted to sign Mike Koster this past summer. He's now a free agent though.
 
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ACC1224 said:
He's firmly entrenched in Cincinnati, married a local girl this summer. He has no interest in the Marlies.
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I believe maximum ECHL contract pay is $525 per week. Minimum AHL contract is $52,725.... both in USD.

For just monetary reasons, he'd probably be interested, but I think he's an ECHL guy anyway... it's just a bit of a cool story given the family history, and is probably special to him.
 
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Mitch nylander said:
Good thing about our system is that he'll be playing with Artur Akhtyamov, Vyacheslav Peksa and have Andropov as a Player development head.

I wouldn't mind bringing Kulemin on an AHL contract
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uncleben said:
Kulemin has an a spare AHL vet would be pretty fun to see, if he's down for it
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I think Kulemin is committed to being in North America regardless because of his kid.

I'd have zero issues in having him around for a kid like Grebenkin.

Plus Grabo and Antropov are in the area.
 
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So is Grebenkin going to report to the Marlies? ... Or make his way back to Russia, where he can likely make more money this year.

I'd like to see him on the Marlies as I'm sure most of us would, but we're not exactly paying his bills.

I'm hopeful he stays in NA with the hope of a call up if he plays well and injuries hit. If he goes near PPG on the Marlies he's probably a regular next year
 
supermann_98 said:
So is Grebenkin going to report to the Marlies? ... Or make his way back to Russia, where he can likely make more money this year.

I'd like to see him on the Marlies as I'm sure most of us would, but we're not exactly paying his bills.

I'm hopeful he stays in NA with the hope of a call up if he plays well and injuries hit. If he goes near PPG on the Marlies he's probably a regular next year
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Only if his contract stipulates he can or they have a handshake agreement to do so. I don't think this is a case of him not getting NHL minutes this year, the problems he had in pre-season are all things he needs to correct at the AHL level. I don't think going back to the KHL will make him anymore NHL ready at this point.

Defensive zone positioning and where to go to get shots etc, physically he can hold up at the NHL level. I would not be surprised at all if he got called up by mid-late season. He's going to get top line AHL minutes so he will be able to develop fast.
 
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supermann_98 said:
So is Grebenkin going to report to the Marlies? ... Or make his way back to Russia, where he can likely make more money this year.

I'd like to see him on the Marlies as I'm sure most of us would, but we're not exactly paying his bills.

I'm hopeful he stays in NA with the hope of a call up if he plays well and injuries hit. If he goes near PPG on the Marlies he's probably a regular next year
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I suspect he likely understood he was going to play in the AHL during the negotiation to bring him over. Part of it was a numbers game.with the bodies and he was probably pitched it as a way to adjust to the pro North American game

He then becomes the first.callup.later in the fall and probably stays up.
 
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Greb going down is to get adjusted to the NA game in real situations and also play bigger minutes in doing so.

If he fares well I imagine he’d get recalled quickly should a spot open up. Bérubé is a fan.
 
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