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Stephen said:
What’s his upside, something in the range of Kulemin to Nichushkin? Mikheyev with more muscle?
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Hard to compare to those guys. Nichushkin is a physical freak with his size, strength, and skating. Kulemin was thick and strong as an ox. Mikheyev is one of the best skaters in the world.

At the NHL level, traits matter a lot. Grebyonkin seems to have good size and a solid skillset. But I haven’t seen anything that separates him from other players. We’ll see how he develops.
 
Future said:
Hard to compare to those guys. Nichushkin is a physical freak with his size, strength, and skating. Kulemin was thick and strong as an ox. Mikheyev is one of the best skaters in the world.

At the NHL level, traits matter a lot. Grebyonkin seems to have good size and a solid skillset. But I haven’t seen anything that separates him from other players. We’ll see how he develops.
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Yeah that's why I threw those names out there, hard to get a sense of his abilities but watching the highlights he looks like he has some intriguing tools.
 
ULF_55 said:
Stajan was not a good top 6 player, but he played one on the Leafs.
Stajan was not a good top 6 player, but the Flames traded for one.

Flames management, and many fans, although originally misguided about who he was, respected and appreciated what he brought to the game.

Unless some buried dirt arises from history, you'd want a third liner with his character.

I wouldn't say boring, just not a saviour, nor someone you use on the top lines on a good team.
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I think Stajan's underwhelming quality had a lot to do with how he came up and what kind of player he turned out to be. Like you said, not a saviour.

Stajan was drafted in 2002, about my age, and a local Mississauga or Brampton kid. In 2003-04, he was brought up as a 19 year old and played 69 games for a competitive Leafs team, bestowed Dave Keon's number 14, and I think he played some games with Joe Nieuwendyk and Roberts, but forget the exact combination. All is to say, he was a hometown kid, lived out a lot of GTA kid's dream, made a Dead Puck Era contender's roster while still a kid, and kind of fit in pretty well. You kind of compare him to a Patrice Bergeron who was drafted in the 2nd round in 2003 and also made the Bruins in 2003-04 and you can kind of see how rare it was for a kid to be promoted like that.

But yeah, I guess he was more or less just a safe and reliable third liner who could give you 1000 games in the NHL. If Minten did that for us it would be great. Unlike Stajan, we don't need more from him since we have superstars still in their 20s.
 
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Future said:
Hard to compare to those guys. Nichushkin is a physical freak with his size, strength, and skating. Kulemin was thick and strong as an ox. Mikheyev is one of the best skaters in the world.

At the NHL level, traits matter a lot. Grebyonkin seems to have good size and a solid skillset. But I haven’t seen anything that separates him from other players. We’ll see how he develops.
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I would say Greb's standout qualities (at least from what I've seen from Highlights) is he always seems to have that separation speed. Pretty well Every highlight you see, is him flying down the wing on a 2 on 1. He also has an ability to find guys with cross ice passes. Through traffic or not
 
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Thornbury said:
Good to see Hirvonen back at it. Was easy to write him off given the injury issues he's had this year. Would be a real bonus if he could turn out to be viable bottom 6 option.
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A bad concussion followed by a bad eye injury if a really tough first half of the season. Great to see him persevering and coming back strong. It’s good for our prospects to experience some adversity.
 
Fogelhund said:
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Tverberg is now second in PPG for AHL rookies, for players who have more than 10 games under their belts.

Stankoven is the only player ahead of him at this point. Coronato, Savoie, Othmann, Lambert, Wright.... all players who have been less productive in their "rookie" years in the AHL.

Tverberg now has 25 points, in 23 games....

I don't know about you guys, but I didn't expect this out of him... Hopefully this translates to the NHL.
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He's turned himself into what could be a valuable trade commodity, although I'd like to hold onto him
 
DuncanMacpherson said:
A bad concussion followed by a bad eye injury if a really tough first half of the season. Great to see him persevering and coming back strong. It’s good for our prospects to experience some adversity.
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Always look at the bright side of life ...

Coming back from concussion is always a concern for me ... so the eye injury really extended his healing time.

Bryan Berard ... that was a horrible eye injury.
 
Anyone know anything about Grebyonkin's 17 year old teammate, Alexander Siryatasky?

Good size but skinny, good numbers in the MHL (Only 2 games in the K) and i havent seen a single thing or scouting report about him.

www.eliteprospects.com

Alexander Siryatsky - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Alexander Siryatsky, 2006-08-04 Omsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the MHL with Stalnye Lisy Magnitogorsk. Complete player biography and stats.
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Namikaze Minato said:
Anyone know anything about Grebyonkin's 17 year old teammate, Alexander Siryatasky?

Good size but skinny, good numbers in the MHL (Only 2 games in the K) and i havent seen a single thing or scouting report about him.

www.eliteprospects.com

Alexander Siryatsky - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Alexander Siryatsky, 2006-08-04 Omsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the MHL with Stalnye Lisy Magnitogorsk. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com www.eliteprospects.com
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Might be a prospect board thing, the Russians there might be able to provide more insight.
 
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LeafParade said:
If gets playing time with Marliea this year and looks good, he could straight into the Leaf lineup next year.
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The Marlies could be quite exciting, if somehow the Leafs missed the playoffs and we sent a bunch of guys down, plus Greb and our Juniors guys get eliminated early.

Ok, not at all likely, but hey!
 
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