Prospect Info: Marlies & Prospect Discussion

[arso40]

There’s our boy leading the OHL. That pick looking less and less “off the board” everyday.

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I just wonder if we could have traded down and still got him that’s the one thing I can say good about dubas

 

[rdogg]

I just wonder if we could have traded down and still got him that’s the one thing I can say good about dubas

Who cares about any of that? The point is the Leafs drafted him and he's playing like a 1st rounder. This is why I don't want Toronto to trade their first round pick this year

 

[arso40]

Who cares about any of that? The point is the Leafs drafted him and he's playing like a 1st rounder. This is why I don't want Toronto to trade their first round pick this year

For sure but a move like that makes all the difference in the world we would have a second round pk to make a trade with and not have to even dangle our first round pk I understand you don’t care thanks for sharing your opinion I don’t care much for it though and I didn’t ask you for it but anyways every marginal play we’re on the right side of goes a long way with what we’re trying to do he was a great find but he was projected to go in the third round im sure there’s ppl on here who do care imho

 

[IceColdBear]

For sure but a move like that makes all the difference in the world we would have a second round pk to make a trade with and not have to even dangle our first round pk I understand you don’t care thanks for sharing your opinion I don’t care much for it though and I didn’t ask you for it but anyways every marginal play we’re on the right side of goes a long way with what we’re trying to do he was a great find but he was projected to go in the third round im sure there’s ppl on here who do care imho

I think if I were a GM/scout - if I think there is a clear cut best player, I would take them with my pick and not trade down (unless an offer was ridiculous).

If you like a player, another team might too, and there's no guarantees they'll be there if you do trade down.

I would trade down if I were in a situation where I think there are a few players who are roughly on the same level.

Given Cowan's play this year, we should be happy we took him over the many players who were projected to go ahead of him who haven't played nearly as well this season.

 

[arso40]

I think if I were a GM/scout - if I think there is a clear cut best player, I would take them with my pick and not trade down (unless an offer was ridiculous).

If you like a player, another team might too, and there's no guarantees they'll be there if you do trade down.

I would trade down if I were in a situation where I think there are a few players who are roughly on the same level.

Given Cowan's play this year, we should be happy we took him over the many players who were projected to go ahead of him who haven't played nearly as well this season.

Definitely happy with him as a first rounder don’t get me wrong but the state dubas left our prospect pool and draft capital in we need any victories we can get i can’t say he wasn’t on the radar for anyone but what I can say for sure is he wasn’t even projected to go in the second round so we could have had another pic and still got our guy it wasn’t even supposed to be this big of a debate I was just stating an opinion but regardless I say all of that to reiterate that I’m happy with the pic as I’m sure everyone else is he looks like the real deal all situational 200ft player which we need more of and he isn’t afraid to drop the gloves

 

[Fogelhund]

Chadwick is tied for 8th in WHL scoring for D as well. That's not too bad for a 6th rounder. Maybe he turns into something, or not... 36 points in 41 games.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I'm feeling more and more like we're going to keep our 1st, which makes the draft interesting again.

 

[Byron Bitz]

For sure but a move like that makes all the difference in the world we would have a second round pk to make a trade with and not have to even dangle our first round pk I understand you don’t care thanks for sharing your opinion I don’t care much for it though and I didn’t ask you for it but anyways every marginal play we’re on the right side of goes a long way with what we’re trying to do he was a great find but he was projected to go in the third round im sure there’s ppl on here who do care imho

Wes Clark said part of his job is to gather intel on who other teams are planning on taking and they knew there was all kinds of interest in Cowan so they had to pick him to make sure they get their guy.

 

[arso40]

Chadwick is tied for 8th in WHL scoring for D as well. That's not too bad for a 6th rounder. Maybe he turns into something, or not... 36 points in 41 games.

Seen some film he looks big N crafty

Wes Clark said part of his job is to gather intel on who other teams are planning on taking and they knew there was all kinds of interest in Cowan so they had to pick him to make sure they get their guy.

First I’m hearing any of that but then it was the right move

 

[uncleben]

For sure but a move like that makes all the difference in the world we would have a second round pk to make a trade with and not have to even dangle our first round pk I understand you don’t care thanks for sharing your opinion I don’t care much for it though and I didn’t ask you for it but anyways every marginal play we’re on the right side of goes a long way with what we’re trying to do he was a great find but he was projected to go in the third round im sure there’s ppl on here who do care imho

The middle of your run on sentence is not needed.
This is a message board where you open yourself up to people sharing their opinions every time you post. That is the nature of it

I agree he was off the board, and I'm glad he's trending positively, but the talk after the first round was that other teams were eyeing him in the early second and there was no deal to be made to move back and not risk losing him.
Sounded like there was a traffic jam in general of teams wanting to keep their picks in that range. Not a single first round pick was traded back into a second on draft day, this past year.

 

[hullsy47]

Who cares about any of that? The point is the Leafs drafted him and he's playing like a 1st rounder. This is why I don't want Toronto to trade their first round pick this year

Don't touch the kids ,in fact get picks for domi and bertuzzi .
This team needs assets to get some real defenseman here

 

[ULF_55]

Chadwick is tied for 8th in WHL scoring for D as well. That's not too bad for a 6th rounder. Maybe he turns into something, or not... 36 points in 41 games.

Meet Maple Leafs prospect Noah Chadwick, the 'lifelong learner' having a breakout season

Chadwick, the Maple Leafs' sixth-round 2023 draft pick, is progressing rapidly and might have a future on an aging Toronto blue line.

theathletic.com

Chadwick’s 6-foot-4 frame, ability to effectively use time and space in transition and versatility in all situations make him part of a core of intriguing, but young, Leafs defence prospects including Topi Niemela and Mikko Kokkonen.

And Chadwick’s rapid progression this season suggests he might have a future with that group in Toronto.
...
He took boxing lessons to improve his cardio. Chadwick found some of the strategic elements of boxing stimulating.

“You get your brain involved and it becomes an intense, technical workout,” he said.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Wes Clark said part of his job is to gather intel on who other teams are planning on taking and they knew there was all kinds of interest in Cowan so they had to pick him to make sure they get their guy.

Yeah almost immediately after the draft there were a lot of reports and radio hits that said Cowan was much higher on scouts lists than the consensus at the time and he wasn't going to last much longer if the Leafs passed.

At the time it could've maybe been dismissed as throwing the Leafs fanbase some red meat to hype them up or quiet the complaints about the pick, but given his performance since I don't doubt it.

One thing about Cowan as a prospect is he really took off in the later part of his draft year. He was really trending up and obviously that has only accelerated. I think there's a lot to be said about prospects who make big jumps in the later stages of their draft year, I'd rather target those guys and hope they continue to rapidly ascend than taking guys who were relatively consistent all season long. Cowans full season stats did not do justice to the type of player he was by the time the playoffs rolled around.

 

[ULF_55]

Yeah almost immediately after the draft there were a lot of reports and radio hits that said Cowan was much higher on scouts lists than the consensus at the time and he wasn't going to last much longer if the Leafs passed.

At the time it could've maybe been dismissed as throwing the Leafs fanbase some red meat to hype them up or quiet the complaints about the pick, but given his performance since I don't doubt it.

One thing about Cowan as a prospect is he really took off in the later part of his draft year. He was really trending up and obviously that has only accelerated. I think there's a lot to be said about prospects who make big jumps in the later stages of their draft year, I'd rather target those guys and hope they continue to rapidly ascend than taking guys who were relatively consistent all season long. Cowans full season stats did not do justice to the type of player he was by the time the playoffs rolled around.

Don't get to watch a lot of him, just the highlights.

He just seems better than most of the players on the ice.

He looks like a little waterbug, but he really isn't little, he just isn't big. 5'11", 185lb. at 18 is decent. Unless he's finished growing 6', 200 lb. isn't out of the question as an adult.

His talent is 1st. round talent, and we've seen tonnes of 1st. rounders that don't look anywhere near that talented.

 

[Pholus]

Yeah almost immediately after the draft there were a lot of reports and radio hits that said Cowan was much higher on scouts lists than the consensus at the time and he wasn't going to last much longer if the Leafs passed.

At the time it could've maybe been dismissed as throwing the Leafs fanbase some red meat to hype them up or quiet the complaints about the pick, but given his performance since I don't doubt it.

One thing about Cowan as a prospect is he really took off in the later part of his draft year. He was really trending up and obviously that has only accelerated. I think there's a lot to be said about prospects who make big jumps in the later stages of their draft year, I'd rather target those guys and hope they continue to rapidly ascend than taking guys who were relatively consistent all season long. Cowans full season stats did not do justice to the type of player he was by the time the playoffs rolled around.

This is similar to Knies' development; that seems to have turned out pretty well.

 

[arso40]

The middle of your run on sentence is not needed.
This is a message board where you open yourself up to people sharing their opinions every time you post. That is the nature of it

I agree he was off the board, and I'm glad he's trending positively, but the talk after the first round was that other teams were eyeing him in the early second and there was no deal to be made to move back and not risk losing him.
Sounded like there was a traffic jam in general of teams wanting to keep their picks in that range. Not a single first round pick was traded back into a second on draft day, this past year.

Buddy what makes you any different then the other guy teach your children that the fact that you decided to pile on the very thing that irritated me shows your either bored or a cpu tough guy either way it’s unnecessary honestly you made a good point I think that’s what your response should have been the other stuff is just provoking at this point buddy made his comments and even if I disagreed with it I clearly stated outside of that it was cool so you repeating it are you trying to teach me something I was just told or are you trying to bother me cause from here it feels more like the latter and not the former

 

[LeafParade]

Don't get to watch a lot of him, just the highlights.

He just seems better than most of the players on the ice.

He looks like a little waterbug, but he really isn't little, he just isn't big. 5'11", 185lb. at 18 is decent. Unless he's finished growing 6', 200 lb. isn't out of the question as an adult.

His talent is 1st. round talent, and we've seen tonnes of 1st. rounders that don't look anywhere near that talented.

He doesn't play like a small player either.

I am still wondering whether he could become a C. He really gets around the ice and looks like he could potentially drive a line in the future. He seems to be a magnet for the puck.

If he could transition to C, the depth charts look much better going forward.

 

[ChazzMichaelMichaels]

Seen some film he looks big N crafty


First I’m hearing any of that but then it was the right move

Wes said it right at the draft in his post draft interview I believe

 

[Canada4Gold]

Buddy what makes you any different then the other guy teach your children that the fact that you decided to pile on the very thing that irritated me shows your either bored or a cpu tough guy either way it’s unnecessary honestly you made a good point I think that’s what your response should have been the other stuff is just provoking at this point buddy made his comments and even if I disagreed with it I clearly stated outside of that it was cool so you repeating it are you trying to teach me something I was just told or are you trying to bother me cause from here it feels more like the latter and not the former

He's literally a moderator moderating the board

 

[arso40]

He's literally a moderator moderating the board

Already had the convo hopefully this is the last time Addressing it cause it’s annoying now I clearly was unaware cause it’s literally his job

 

[Leafs1991]

For sure but a move like that makes all the difference in the world we would have a second round pk to make a trade with and not have to even dangle our first round pk I understand you don’t care thanks for sharing your opinion I don’t care much for it though and I didn’t ask you for it but anyways every marginal play we’re on the right side of goes a long way with what we’re trying to do he was a great find but he was projected to go in the third round im sure there’s ppl on here who do care imho

You post in a public forum, we can state our opinion too.

I also have to agree with that guy. Weirdly, you are criticizing Dubas for not trading down. Why complain about that? He was projected to go in the 3rd round, how do you even know he'd get there? You don't. You're assuming alot and trying to criticize Dubas for drafting him where he was is honestly, a massive reach and not based on any good facts.

 

[Leafs1991]

Buddy what makes you any different then the other guy teach your children that the fact that you decided to pile on the very thing that irritated me shows your either bored or a cpu tough guy either way it’s unnecessary honestly you made a good point I think that’s what your response should have been the other stuff is just provoking at this point buddy made his comments and even if I disagreed with it I clearly stated outside of that it was cool so you repeating it are you trying to teach me something I was just told or are you trying to bother me cause from here it feels more like the latter and not the former

You honestly are getting way more annoyed than needed. It is a public forum, nothing wrong with people debating your opinion here that is clearly wrong. Also, please start using punctuation. Periods are a thing.

 

[Stephen]

Meet Maple Leafs prospect Noah Chadwick, the 'lifelong learner' having a breakout season

Chadwick, the Maple Leafs' sixth-round 2023 draft pick, is progressing rapidly and might have a future on an aging Toronto blue line.

theathletic.com

Chadwick’s 6-foot-4 frame, ability to effectively use time and space in transition and versatility in all situations make him part of a core of intriguing, but young, Leafs defence prospects including Topi Niemela and Mikko Kokkonen.

And Chadwick’s rapid progression this season suggests he might have a future with that group in Toronto.
...
He took boxing lessons to improve his cardio. Chadwick found some of the strategic elements of boxing stimulating.

“You get your brain involved and it becomes an intense, technical workout,” he said.

Chadwick's body type also opens up a few different career paths for him.

 

[horner]

He doesn't play like a small player either.

I am still wondering whether he could become a C. He really gets around the ice and looks like he could potentially drive a line in the future. He seems to be a magnet for the puck.

If he could transition to C, the depth charts look much better going forward.

In the rookie tournament his best games were when he played center.

 

[horner]

It will be nice in 2 year not to have to build our forwards and goal through Free Agency..
Also having committed to play a physical game .
All of these young players have fought at least they stand up for themselves.
Knies Cowen Minten and Grebyonkin.
Knowing that Chadwick is taking boxing lessons for cadio but will stand up as well