Mark Stone: People want to see the Golden Knights crash and burn

[HanSolo]

I don't think fans had any problems with the Golden Knights until they started using the LTIR loophole the last few seasons and won a Cup.

Just categorically not true.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

@hangman005

 

[TheNumber4]

Cheating POS player for a cheating POS organization tries to convince you they are scrappy underdogs.

 

[Sentinel]

All I can say is that I have been a fan since their inception. My 2nd/3rd favorite team in the league (along with the Lightning).

They beat the system: good for them.

 

[SENStastic]

I am utterly shocked to hear this. Literally came out of nowhere. I feel for his team and their fanbase, I hope they can endure these trying times.

 

[Mr Positive]

All I can say is that I have been a fan since their inception. My 2nd/3rd favorite team in the league (along with the Lightning).

They beat the system: good for them.

If you say they beat the system it is saying that they have been dishonest when it comes to LTIR

I'm actually not quite there. I remember similar anger when Hossa has an allergic reaction, and people said he was obviously faking, and I joined in with that because it seemed obviously true. And they said that the Hawks were gaming the system

Except, the more you look into it, it becomes obvious that Hossa's issues were for real and the only wiggle room was that players have leeway when it comes to playing with an injury or condition. There was nothing dishonest about how Hossa conducted himself (or the Hawks)

So in other words the issues that Stone has had may have been for real, but maybe if it had happened in the playoffs or early in the season, he would have just played through it. He's allowed to do that, and to go on LTIR and recover instead if he wants, and his motivation for that choice isn't relevant

 

[Sentinel]

If you say they beat the system it is saying that they have been dishonest when it comes to LTIR

I'm actually not quite there. I remember similar anger when Hossa has an allergic reaction, and people said he was obviously faking, and I joined in with that because it seemed obviously true. And they said that the Hawks were gaming the system

Except, the more you look into it, it becomes obvious that Hossa's issues were for real and the only wiggle room was that players have leeway when it comes to playing with an injury or condition. There was nothing dishonest about how Hossa conducted himself (or the Hawks)

So in other words the issues that Stone has had may have been for real, but maybe if it had happened in the playoffs or early in the season, he would have just played through it. He's allowed to do that, and to go on LTIR and recover instead if he wants, and his motivation for that choice isn't relevant

Doesn't matter to me. They did what they did without breaking the rules.

 

[drktmplr12]

Lmao

 

[Magic Mittens]

Mark Stone will now be placed on LTIR with hurt feelings

 

[BelovedIsles]

I don’t, that said, the whole misfit narrative has lost its luster.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Mark Stone will now be placed on LTIR with hurt feelings

Micro-Hurt Feelings

 

[Ciao]

Other fans hate a new franchise that has already won the Stanley Cup? Go figure!

 

[TruePowerSlave]

I applaud how relentless Vegas has been with their pursuit to win it all

 

[CashMash]

I don't care about Vegas, I'm just sick of people crying about LTIR when anyone can do it.

... And it's still BS.
I don't care that everyone can do it.

If players can play, you play them. Otherwise, you are relying on players getting injured at the right time. That's not a skill. People play to watch teams play.

How many times does this smooth brained take need to be regurgitated?

Nothing VGK has done is prohibited by the CBA.

What a cop out.
It seems that the League has recognized the issue, though.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Some players on the Knights actually play the whole season. Do those non part-timers feel the same way?

 

[JPeeper]

In November when Stone is back on LTIR for 3 months, I am sure this thread will be bumped.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

In November when Stone is back on LTIR for 3 months, I am sure this thread will be bumped.

Never forget

 

[Reality Czech]

I wholeheartedly agree with Mark Stone.

 

[Jumptheshark]

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Stone need to spend five minutes reading threads on the oilers on this site

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

LTIR-exploitation horseshittery aside, their blatant disrespect of MAF was disgusting.

f*** that scumbag franchise.

 

[nturn06]

Stone: 'People want to see the Golden Knights crash and burn'

Vegas Golden Knights captain Mark Stone has seen the prognostications that his club will regress this season, but he doesn't buy it.The Golden Knights lost several key players in free agency - most notably Jonathan Marchessault, Chandler Stephenson, and Alec Martinez - and didn't have adequate...

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Yikes, Stone playing the victim card, what a whinner.

Is there any NHL team who doesn't want the other teams to fail? What makes Vegas special?

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Mark No-Stones

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

How many times does this smooth brained take need to be regurgitated?

Nothing VGK has done is prohibited by the CBA.

Yes we're very aware that the GMs are all OK with cap circumvention because when it's their turn, they want to be able to do it.

And it's totally coincidence that both Kucherov and Stone were out, but skating, for weeks/months and conveniently got cleared right as the playoffs were starting.

 

[Three On Zero]

When you’re one of the best teams in the league since your inaugural season, people tend to be salty

 

[nturn06]

How many times does this smooth brained take need to be regurgitated?

Nothing VGK has done is prohibited by the CBA.

Nothing was against the long term frontloaded contracts in the CBA , yet some teams were penalized with cap recapture.

Also, if I understand right, a year ago the league send an e-mail to teams making it clear that they are not allowed to do what Vegas did with Hertl. Yet, Vegas got a pass.

It seems like when it comes to doing something which is not explicitely prohibited, but against the "spirit" of the CBA, all teams are equal but some are more equal than others.

At the end of the day, the argument that something is not explicitely prohibited by the CBA implicitely admits that maybe it should be. But you are correct, it is technically allowed and the GM's will push this further and further until it will not be allowed anymore.