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KFnC204 said:
I'd keep Mark and Kyle separated. So

Connor Perfetti Vilardi
Iafalo Scheif Ehlers
Nino Names Kupari.
Barron Lowry Apples

Viel is the extra for a bit.
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Only criticism I have is Perfetti hasn't tried to be a C at the NHL yet and he's penciled in here as 1C.

Maybe switching the top 2 lines?

I haven't followed Iaffalo much so hopefully he doesn't look out of place in the top 6.
 
GeorgeJETson said:
Only criticism I have is Perfetti hasn't tried to be a C at the NHL yet and he's penciled in here as 1C.

Maybe switching the top 2 lines?

I haven't followed Iaffalo much so hopefully he doesn't look out of place in the top 6.
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Yeah id say the Perfetti line would be deployed against softer comp with the Lowry and Scheifele lines matching the tougher comp. Pretty much the same as how the Jets have deployed their top 9 since 2018.
 
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KFnC204 said:
Nope. Hes gonna be 1 of the extra forwards. Not sure if we keeping 2 d around... guess still time to move Dillon Stanley or whoever else not named Morrissey and Samberg
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I'm guessing we are keeping 2 extra D men (Stanley and Chiz) and 1 extra forward (Gus).
Heinola and Copa go to the Moose.
 
KFnC204 said:
I don't think Dillon or Stanley are Jets on day 1 of camp
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That would leave us with a pretty smallish D corps especially after Sammy.

I think if Dillon is moved, it isn't until the TD.
Chevy will grind a 1st and a 5th out of someone.

I think Schmidt is the one he is trying to move but doesn't want to pay the price. I'd give someone a 3rd and eat 1m to move him...2nd if I had to.
 
10Ducky10 said:
That would leave us with a pretty smallish D corps especially after Sammy.

I think if Dillon is moved, it isn't until the TD.
Chevy will grind a 1st and a 5th out of someone.

I think Schmidt is the one he is trying to move but doesn't want to pay the price. I'd give someone a 3rd and eat 1m to move him...2nd if I had to.
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Schmidt is overpaid but plays well on the 3rd pair. You don't pay someone to take him AND retain salary - just to save salary - and you have to replace him. You retain salary and get a 2nd or 3rd for him. Not to mention that we don't need the cap space right now anyway.
 
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10Ducky10 said:
I want to see him with Perfetti.
You have a set up (Perfetti) man, a goal scorer/set up (Scheif) man and a guy that can work the corners with a decent set of hands to put the puck in because you know if you are playing with Scheif and Perfetti, they are going to find you.
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my top-6 would personally be
ehlers-scheifele-nino
connor-vilardi-perfetti

i think you have a good mix of speed/scoring/playmaking/size/defensive acumen on each line. i don't think you can really go wrong with any combo, as long as rule #1 is followed (scheifele & kc are separated)
 
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If Scheif stays, I expect the season will start something like this:
(Scheif will draw the top defenders from the other team no matter where they play him)
KFC - Scheif - Ehlers/Perfetti
Ehlers/Perfetti - Namestnikov - Villardi
Nino - Lowry - Iafallo
Barron - Kupari - Apples
 
DRW204 said:
they already paid Dillon 2M bucks..... they ain't gonna trade him to play elsewhere :laugh: :sarcasm:
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That is a sunk cost. The only thing that should matter would be the return.

That said, you are probably correct.

What does this say about retooling our D? Looks like no change, at least until the TD if we are out of the PO race.

JoMo - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk
Dillon - Schmidt
Stanley
Copacabana

Chisholm lost to waivers?
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
That is a sunk cost. The only thing that should matter would be the return.

That said, you are probably correct.

What does this say about retooling our D? Looks like no change, at least until the TD if we are out of the PO race.

JoMo - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk
Dillon - Schmidt
Stanley
Copacabana

Chisholm lost to waivers?
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They will waive Capo and have Stanley/Dillon warm the press box. Heinola back the Moose again, which probably burns that relationship one would think.
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
That is a sunk cost. The only thing that should matter would be the return.

That said, you are probably correct.

What does this say about retooling our D? Looks like no change, at least until the TD if we are out of the PO race.

JoMo - DeMelo
Samberg - Pionk
Dillon - Schmidt
Stanley
Copacabana

Chisholm lost to waivers?
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Basically, the Jets' top 6 D going into the season has:

1 outstanding offensive D (Morrissey)
3 good defensive D, with little offense (Dillon, Samberg, DeMelo)
1 mediocre D overall (Schmidt)
1 poor defensive, so-so offensive D (Pionk)

If they go with that group, I really don't see the 3 defensive D adding offense, so they'll be one-dimensional.

Schmidt might tread water as an okay 3rd pair D.

Morrissey could shore up his D, or get less tough competition.

Pionk needs to make a big improvement defensively, or he'll continue to drag the D down.

But overall, at best it's a passable D, with some defensive strengths. Samberg can probably anchor a 2nd pair defensively.
 
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Whileee said:
Basically, the Jets' top 6 D going into the season has:

1 outstanding offensive D (Morrissey)
3 good defensive D, with little offense (Dillon, Samberg, DeMelo)
1 mediocre D overall (Schmidt)
1 poor defensive, so-so offensive D (Pionk)

If they go with that group, I really don't see the 3 defensive D adding offense, so they'll be one-dimensional.

Schmidt might tread water as an okay 3rd pair D.

Morrissey could shore up his D, or get less tough competition.

Pionk needs to make a big improvement defensively, or he'll continue to drag the D down.

But overall, at best it's a passable D, with some defensive strengths. Samberg can probably anchor a 2nd pair defensively.
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Yes, passable, barely. And overpaid (Schmidt & Pionk)
Pionk was much better in the PO. If he can bring that in the regular season we are quite a bit better. If not, he drags the whole D corps down.

I'm disappointed that nothing was done with Stanley. Barring a sudden step forward from him this was probably the last chance to get anything at all for him. He is 25 YO now. Any major improvement is getting to be pretty unlikely. Not that any return would have been a game changer, but it would have been nice to get something as opposed to nothing. Stanley could end up being waived out of TC too.
 
Mortimer Snerd said:
Yes, passable, barely. And overpaid (Schmidt & Pionk)
Pionk was much better in the PO. If he can bring that in the regular season we are quite a bit better. If not, he drags the whole D corps down.

I'm disappointed that nothing was done with Stanley. Barring a sudden step forward from him this was probably the last chance to get anything at all for him. He is 25 YO now. Any major improvement is getting to be pretty unlikely. Not that any return would have been a game changer, but it would have been nice to get something as opposed to nothing. Stanley could end up being waived out of TC too.
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I think Stanley may have reached Jesse P status where everyone thinks he is worth something but he isn't. At least not a pick in the top 3 rounds type of return. May as well keep him and if he gets claimed on waivers oh well?
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
Yes, passable, barely. And overpaid (Schmidt & Pionk)
Pionk was much better in the PO. If he can bring that in the regular season we are quite a bit better. If not, he drags the whole D corps down.

I'm disappointed that nothing was done with Stanley. Barring a sudden step forward from him this was probably the last chance to get anything at all for him. He is 25 YO now. Any major improvement is getting to be pretty unlikely. Not that any return would have been a game changer, but it would have been nice to get something as opposed to nothing. Stanley could end up being waived out of TC too.
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The off-season isn't over. Trades will be made until the season starts, so it's premature to assume that Stanley (and perhaps others) won't be traded.
 
Mortimer Snerd said:
Yes, passable, barely. And overpaid (Schmidt & Pionk)
Pionk was much better in the PO. If he can bring that in the regular season we are quite a bit better. If not, he drags the whole D corps down.

I'm disappointed that nothing was done with Stanley. Barring a sudden step forward from him this was probably the last chance to get anything at all for him. He is 25 YO now. Any major improvement is getting to be pretty unlikely. Not that any return would have been a game changer, but it would have been nice to get something as opposed to nothing. Stanley could end up being waived out of TC too.
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Pionk is Pionk when he is able to play physical and get under guys skin. Him playing more sheltered 3rd pair mins and Schmidt taking on more 5v5 and PK time would work great for both guys.

Pionk skating is weaker so keeping him fresh will go a long way to him contributing positively. If he has a future rock like Samberg with him playing sheltered minutes his fancy stats will start to look pretty good again.
 
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Whileee said:
The off-season isn't over. Trades will be made until the season starts, so it's premature to assume that Stanley (and perhaps others) won't be traded.
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I figure at this point they'd even consider waiving Stanley over Chisholm and Capobianco if Chisholm plays well in pre season. Chevy may not always go with the herd, but I think he will remember the Kovacevic situation just as vividly as we do...
 
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