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tazsub3

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If true, it's just logical. When your team goes the SC finals and you're nominated as one of the best in your field by your peers.
but but some on HF boards want him canned. They think he worst Gm ever , even worst then houle lol
 
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I don't necessarily blame MB for not matching, I blame him for not signing him to 3x3 or 4x4 or similar early in the summer instead of low-balling 2-2.5/yr.
And what if in all that , they did not believe the player will be even worth that? Sure time will tell, but if they think he 3rd line at best, then no need to sign for that bridge either. He upgraded on that for sure and even got a double chance at a top 10 .
They handled it very well.
In fact, last 2 year mb has been very very good.
Most of the horrible mistakes are before the reset.
 

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I'm out. That's the last straw for me. 3 year extension after forfeiting a #3 overall pick. What a joke of an organization. Drafted a sex offender, lose 2 centers and put our franchise player on an expansion list to protect Jake "Choke City" Allen...

Congrats Geoff, you've finally managed to make this team as awful as your beer
forfeit....? lol

No, that's what the Coyotes did this year in the draft.

The Canadiens acquired a 1st and 3rd

Now they have a true 2nd line center and 2 shots at acquiring a top 10 pick.

How quickly you forget that we just went to the finals 2 months ago but now you're done with the team because he got a more productive player and 2 cracks at a top 10 pick

:rolleyes:
 

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I'm out. That's the last straw for me. 3 year extension after forfeiting a #3 overall pick. What a joke of an organization. Drafted a sex offender, lose 2 centers and put our franchise player on an expansion list to protect Jake "Choke City" Allen...

Congrats Geoff, you've finally managed to make this team as awful as your beer
LOL goodbye then
 

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forfeit....? lol

No, that's what the Coyotes did this year in the draft.

The Canadiens acquired a 1st and 3rd

Now they have a true 2nd line center and 2 shots at acquiring a top 10 pick.

How quickly you forget that we just went to the finals 2 months ago but now you're done with the team because he got a more productive player and 2 cracks at a top 10 pick

:rolleyes:
Some are just blinded by hate . I was as critical as any on some mb moves and I compliment the ones I feel are good .
Lately he made tough choices that are commendable .
He learned from his mistakes a lot.
 
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Some are just blinded by hate . I was as critical as any on some mb moves and I compliment the ones I feel are good .
Lately he made tough choices that are commendable .
He learned from his mistakes a lot.
some posters don't know what the f*** they are talking about.....they blab out forfeit KK which is exactly what DIDN'T happened
 
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forfeit....? lol

No, that's what the Coyotes did this year in the draft.

The Canadiens acquired a 1st and 3rd

Now they have a true 2nd line center and 2 shots at acquiring a top 10 pick.

How quickly you forget that we just went to the finals 2 months ago but now you're done with the team because he got a more productive player and 2 cracks at a top 10 pick

:rolleyes:
Or, we lost TWO top 6 forwards for a 1st round draft pick. Centers no less.
 

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This is how I view Bergevin and Molson-


Stockholm syndrome is a condition in which hostages develop a psychological bond with their captors during captivity. Emotional bonds may be formed between captors and captives, during intimate time together, but these are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims.
 

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The worst part is that they are essentially handing him the keys to picking another player in the top 10 which is the exact thing that should be getting him let go today.
Habs are going to be making the playoffs unless injuries kick in
 

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Bergevin overall has done a bad job....ZERO Stanley cups......only made the playoffs the last 2 years because they were put in by the league finished 24th ...last year finished 18th and only made the playoffs because they switched divisions...#FACTS....Montreal went to the finals last year on the back of Price a player the moron did not draft.....they were a mediocre team that got hot as many mediocre teams before them had done.
 
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He will say we expected more of him?? are you for real?? So you're telling me that the 5 goals he scored was your expectations from this 3rd overall pick?? :laugh:

Very convenient of you not to mention he was the second highest goals on the team in the playoffs, while playing the least amount of games of the players ahead of him
 

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MB seemed to be on the right track with the Allen signing, some good vet signing etc...
than he had a summer like this where he slept on the KK signing until it was too late,
thus losing an important asset at a position we have sucked at for 30 years and he himself
said, habs can only draft and develop and not trade for
 

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The worst part is that they are essentially handing him the keys to picking another player in the top 10 which is the exact thing that should be getting him let go today.

If Molson was smart he would at least wait a few months to see how this iteration of the team does before making a decision on its future. If it proves to be a good team, then sure, a 3 year extension after finally building a solid team and making the cup finals would at least be justifiable. If the team fails, then your hands aren't tied and you have the rest of the season to seriously consider a replacement.

Then again, intelligent hockey decisions have never really been Molson's strong suit. Molson just loves MB as his GM. That much is clear. The team would have to be a lottery team for 3 seasons in a row before he seriously considered firing him.
 
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Bergevin overall has done a bad job....ZERO Stanley cups......only made the playoffs the last 2 years because they were put in by the league finished 24th ...last year finished 18th and only made the playoffs because they switched divisions...#FACTS....Montreal went to the finals last year on the back of Price a player the moron did not draft.....they were a mediocre team that got hot as many mediocre teams before them had done.
Price robbed the Toronto series but he was not the reason behind our series wins against Winnipeg and Las Vegas and even if he was so what hate when people say its only because of Price hes our best player our franchise player making 10.5mill/year its hes job to make us win games just like Pittsburgh with Crosby or EDM with Mcdavid
 
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salbutera

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Bergevin overall has done a bad job....ZERO Stanley cups......only made the playoffs the last 2 years because they were put in by the league finished 24th ...last year finished 18th and only made the playoffs because they switched divisions...#FACTS....Montreal went to the finals last year on the back of Price a player the moron did not draft.....they were a mediocre team that got hot as many mediocre teams before them had done.
How many Stanley Cups has Jim Nill had? Chevaldayoff? Sakic? The great David Poile?

In fact how many playoff games has Sakic even won as GM - Avs haven’t made it past 2nd round in nearly 20-years. Might want to check out how many times Chevaldayoff, Poile & Nill have missed the playoffs vs MB...

MBs made lots of errors, continuation of atrocious amateur drafting from previous Habs regimes but he’s far from having done a “bad job” vs his fellow GMs ...BTW all of whom have a much easier marketplace to work in
 

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Bergevin overall has done a bad job....ZERO Stanley cups......only made the playoffs the last 2 years because they were put in by the league finished 24th ...last year finished 18th and only made the playoffs because they switched divisions...#FACTS....Montreal went to the finals last year on the back of Price a player the moron did not draft.....they were a mediocre team that got hot as many mediocre teams before them had done.

Marc Bergevin has done a great job. Brought his team to the finals for the first time since 1993. Made the playoffs last year despite losing Price for a month on a shortened season. Before that, he had a solid offseasons flipping Domi for Anderson and signing Toffoli to a bargain deal. This year he did it again with the Hoffman and Savard signing, while getting out of a shitty offer sheet and looking good doing it. It was a deep team without a superstar skater who bought into a system and played for each other.

P.S. You can't really know what would've happened if the divisions weren't scrambled. Maybe we suck, but maybe we don't get the toughest schedule ever and maybe Price doesn't get injured.
 

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MB seemed to be on the right track with the Allen signing, some good vet signing etc...
than he had a summer like this where he slept on the KK signing until it was too late,
thus losing an important asset at a position we have sucked at for 30 years and he himself
said, habs can only draft and develop and not trade for

That's easy to say about KK, but there are several other top draft picks from his draft year that are still unsigned. Dahlin, Tkachuk, Hugues... Nobody could have predicted such a self-destructive offer and despite that MB played the ensuing situation perfectly IMO.
 

tazsub3

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some posters don't know what the f*** they are talking about.....they blab out forfeit KK which is exactly what DIDN'T happened
Exactly.
In fact forfeiting KK would have been matching at 6.1 as ego would dictate then not qualifying him next year after he disappoints again.

Remember when many though Alex Galch would become a 50 goal scorer in arizoa and how we f***ed this up.
 

salbutera

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MB doesn't deserve any credit for that though, the team finished 18th overall, and only won 24 out of 56 games,

Anybody who knows anything about hockey knows that is not a playoff team,

The last two playoff appearances should be credited to COVID not MB
MB does deserve credit, he identified a strategy of building a big boy hockey team tailored for North Division opponents vs say ballerina tutu hockey of Leafs.

That was the right playoff strategy, size + depth based team. This season, as expected the team is being tailored to more skill and speed but maintaining the 4-line depth approach since they don’t have that Matthews, McDavid type.

Let’s see how it plays out, I don’t believe MBs done yet.
 
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