GDT: Maple Leafs @ Senators | Game 69, Nice Edition | Sat Mar 18 2023, 7PM | CBC, SN

[coladin]

It is frustrating, the goalie situation as obviously Sogaard would like at least one of those back. The loser on here that says he sucks…he shouldn’t even be here. He is supposed to be earning his stripes and experience in the AHL.

Clearly he isn’t ready. But he is trying hard and while he whiffed on the Marner one, who is a great player, he made a lot of point blank saves and a lot in the shootout. He is 22. For someone to say he sucks just goes to show how shit a lot of fans are here.

 

[Answer]

Once again proving you know nothing about hockey. They went 9 rds into the shootout after dominating the entire game outshooting the stinking leafs 53 to 29. The Leafs are 2nd in our division they are suppose to be the better team & their experienced goalie beat our rookie goalie in the shootout, not in regulation or in overtime & who most likely will play in Belleville in the AHL again to start next season.

Tkachuk the guy you hate got the tying goal to send it into overtime, it was his 2nd goal of the night & he also hit a cross bar in overtime which almost won it, they had their chances & just missed. I'd say it was the Leafs who were lucky to win this game & were embarrassed by the shots on goal & being taken to the shootout. Why don't you become one of their fans?

Honestly all I am hearing is whining and excuses and bunch of nonsense, and then you tell me that I don't know anything about Hockey?

Stinky Leafs? Have you check the standing lately? Have you checked their record? Do you even know who won the game today?

Do you know what embarrassment is actually? If you don't go watch the Chicago, Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton games. Even much of Colorado's game, as well. Go watch the November games. Go watch last year's games. Go watch the Covid season. You will learn what Embarrassment is

I am happy for you that Tkachuk scored 2 goals so you can consider it a win and go out and celebrate, even though we lost the game, because the name you just mentioned did not come in clutch in the SO. Al though, you are saying all this like I am blaming Tkachuk on our loses. I am blaming the whole Team and the coaching staff

 

[aragorn]

Honestly all I am hearing is whining and excuses and bunch of nonsense, and then you tell me that I don't know anything about Hockey?

Stinky Leafs? Have you check the standing lately? Have you checked their record? Do you even know who won the game today?

Do you know what embarrassment is actually? If you don't go watch the Chicago, Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton games. Even much of Colorado's game, as well. Go watch the November games. Go watch last year's games. Go watch the Covid season. You will learn what Embarrassment is

I am happy for you that Tkachuk scored 2 goals so you can consider it a win and go out and celebrate, even though we lost the game, because the name you just mentioned did not come in clutch in the SO. Al though, you are saying all this like I am blaming Tkachuk on our loses. I am blaming the whole Team and the coaching staff

We lost four yrs in a row to the Leafs with Alfredsson as captain & plenty of games to the Leafs with Karlsson as captain. You still know nothing about hockey.

 

[Answer]

We lost four yrs in a row to the Leafs with Alfredsson as captain & plenty of games to the Leafs with Karlsson as captain. You still know nothing about hockey.

And where am I blaming Tkachuk for our loses? I am blaming the whole Team. I haven't talked about Tkachuk in a very long time, let alone anything about his Captaincy.

Something is really wrong with you? You are literally obsessed with him for past 4 years now dude.

and its just sad that you have to put down Alfredsson and Karlsson in order to elevate Tkachuk. Maybe just talk about Tkachuk as a player on his own hockey merit?

 

[HSF]

if the sens were actually in a playoff race I don't think a ton of STH would have sold for tonight.

Would be interesting to see how many tickets switched hands after our western road trip. I suspect many.

 

[coladin]

if the sens were actually in a playoff race I don't think a ton of STH would have sold for tonight.

Would be interesting to see how many tickets switched hands after our western road trip. I suspect many.

Feel the passion

 

[KingAlfie11]

How much different do you think it would be right now if Forsberg wasn't injured? How many more wins do you thin we would have with him in net?

Forsberg has goals saved above expectation of +8.1 which is 18th and Sogaard has -3.8 which is 77th

It's a very tough spot for Sogaard to be in I hope that next season he can regain his form in Belleville

 

[maclean]

Sucks having both your starting goalies injured and sucks losing to the Leafs especially at home.

Must've been a fun game to be at though

 

[JD1]

We need help in the bottom 6. What we are running out there now won’t cut it unless Grieg takes a big ststep

Adding Pinto and Formenton sure would be good for that bottom 6

 

[BankStreetParade]

God it’s so irritating that so many Sens fans would rather make a buck than fill the barn to support their own team. Maybe they need to start denying entry to resold tickets for these games? Maybe you need to have purchased tickets to and attended non-Leafs games to qualify for these premium games? I know it’s a complicated solution but someone needs to figure this shit out because it’s really embarrassing.

 

[bert]

Sens twitter is hilarious lol

If this guy didn't have the last name he is a nobody. His takes are terrible. There's no reason anyone should listen to him or follow him. His hockey resume has literally nothing on it.

God it’s so irritating that so many Sens fans would rather make a buck than fill the barn to support their own team. Maybe they need to start denying entry to resold tickets for these games? Maybe you need to have purchased tickets to and attended non-Leafs games to qualify for these premium games? I know it’s a complicated solution but someone needs to figure this shit out because it’s really embarrassing.

Oh now were going after STH. The ones who actually pay to go to games?.... The team is going to have 14 sold out games this year. How about thanking the fans for coming back after this team was run my a micky mouse, misogynist, that was actively trying to not only lose but alienate the entire fanbase. If you actually understood how the pricing works you'd know that every STH overpays for literally every game except these ones. You can always buy equivalent tickets for less than the cost the day of to game in any non sell out except leafs and Habs.

I'll tell you this too. My clients were leaf fans that had my tickets last night. They're amazing people and I'm glad they got to enjoy such a great game. The reality of it is almost 30,000 people moved to Ottawa from the GTA over the last 5 years. There are lots of leaf fans in Ottawa and there are lots in Ontario. According to my wife who works the games she said there were more sens fans than usual and they were louder than normal. So there is some progress. The better the sens get the more STH there are the less leaf fans there will be. They buy all the singles actually it's not the STH for the most part. Maybe you need to buy more tickets instead of blaming the people who are responsible for this team having the 2nd biggest spike in attendance in the league.

 

[Loach]

If this guy didn't have the last name he is a nobody. His takes are terrible. There's no reason anyone should listen to him or follow him. His hockey resume has literally nothing on it.


Oh now were going after STH. The ones who actually pay to go to games?.... The team is going to have 14 sold out games this year. How about thanking the fans for coming back after this team was run my a micky mouse, misogynist, that was actively trying to not only lose but alienate the entire fanbase. If you actually understood how the pricing works you'd know that every STH overpays for literally every game except these ones. You can always buy equivalent tickets for less than the cost the day of to game in any non sell out except leafs and Habs.

I'll tell you this too. My clients were leaf fans that had my tickets last night. They're amazing people and I'm glad they got to enjoy such a great game. The reality of it is almost 30,000 people moved to Ottawa from the GTA over the last 5 years. There are lots of leaf fans in Ottawa and there are lots in Ontario. According to my wife who works the games she said there were more sens fans than usual and they were louder than normal. So there is some progress. The better the sens get the more STH there are the less leaf fans there will be. They buy all the singles actually it's not the STH for the most part. Maybe you need to buy more tickets instead of blaming the people who are responsible for this team having the 2nd biggest spike in attendance in the league.

Leaf fans paying for Senators salary increase. Hahaha.

 

[aragorn]

And where am I blaming Tkachuk for our loses? I am blaming the whole Team. I haven't talked about Tkachuk in a very long time, let alone anything about his Captaincy.

Something is really wrong with you? You are literally obsessed with him for past 4 years now dude.

and its just sad that you have to put down Alfredsson and Karlsson in order to elevate Tkachuk. Maybe just talk about Tkachuk as a player on his own hockey merit?

I'm tired of your constant nagative narative when you clearly don't know what you are talking about. You mention how bad this team has been for the last 6 or 7 yrs & how great Karlsson was, yet he was here during those yrs when we were constantly losing & missing the playoffs & was captain for a number of those yrs.

Then you say that you can't wait for Alfredsson to join the team so he can teach these guys how to win. When under his leadership this team lost in the first rd of the playoffs to the Leafs 4 yrs in a row when we were the better team. You & Agent Zub are obsessed with EK, but he has never won a cup, but yet you both shit on a 23 yr old captain who is becoming a premier powerforward in this league. Tkachuk has turned into a great hockey player it's blatanly obvious to everyone in hockey. You literally were congratulating Agent Zub for creating the Worse Leadership in Sens history thread. Giroux is also part of this team's leadership, is he terrible too?

Karlsson & Alfredsson were also great hockey players but only Alfredsson made it to a cup finals, Karlsson is slowly running out of time but Tkachuk has lots of time left & he's on a good young improving team. Everyone in the hockey world has a completely different opinion than you two regarding the leadership of this team & how good it's been. Every Montreal fan I have ever talked to is still pissed they didn't draft Tkachuk. You just want wins all the time like a child & can't seem to understand all of the circumstances, they went 9 ROUNDS in the shootout with a rookie AHL goalie & had plenty of chances to win.

 

[BankStreetParade]

If this guy didn't have the last name he is a nobody. His takes are terrible. There's no reason anyone should listen to him or follow him. His hockey resume has literally nothing on it.


Oh now were going after STH. The ones who actually pay to go to games?.... The team is going to have 14 sold out games this year. How about thanking the fans for coming back after this team was run my a micky mouse, misogynist, that was actively trying to not only lose but alienate the entire fanbase. If you actually understood how the pricing works you'd know that every STH overpays for literally every game except these ones. You can always buy equivalent tickets for less than the cost the day of to game in any non sell out except leafs and Habs.

I'll tell you this too. My clients were leaf fans that had my tickets last night. They're amazing people and I'm glad they got to enjoy such a great game. The reality of it is almost 30,000 people moved to Ottawa from the GTA over the last 5 years. There are lots of leaf fans in Ottawa and there are lots in Ontario. According to my wife who works the games she said there were more sens fans than usual and they were louder than normal. So there is some progress. The better the sens get the more STH there are the less leaf fans there will be. They buy all the singles actually it's not the STH for the most part. Maybe you need to buy more tickets instead of blaming the people who are responsible for this team having the 2nd biggest spike in attendance in the league.

I didn’t single out STHs… but I guess when you’re blindly enraged by everything someone says it’s hard to slow down and read their post properly. Why haven’t you blocked me yet???

 

[bert]

I didn’t single out STHs… but I guess when you’re blindly enraged by everything someone says it’s hard to slow down and read their post properly. Why haven’t you blocked me yet???

But you said this.... Who else could it be....

God it’s so irritating that so many Sens fans would rather make a buck than fill the barn to support their own team. Maybe they need to start denying entry to resold tickets for these games? Maybe you need to have purchased tickets to and attended non-Leafs games to qualify for these premium games? I know it’s a complicated solution but someone needs to figure this shit out because it’s really embarrassing.

 

[Micklebot]

I didn’t single out STHs… but I guess when you’re blindly enraged by everything someone says it’s hard to slow down and read their post properly. Why haven’t you blocked me yet???

How are sens fans making a buck rather than full the barn to support their team?

It really seemed like you were alluding to season ticket holders that sell their tickets to Toronto games, if that wasn't what you meant, fine, but it's a pretty understandable inference for him to make.

 

[camZ]

Maybe I’m over thinking this, but is DJ the only coach that willingly throws 4th line out for o zone face offs. I didn’t watch all the game last night, but perfect example, 2 min into game the Sens had 2 great shifts back to back with the Brady and g line, and then throws out watson line and momentum gone. I can almost gurantee matthews or marner are coming for Toronto every o zone shift

 

[BankStreetParade]

But you said this.... Who else could it be....

How are sens fans making a buck rather than full the barn to support their team?

It really seemed like you were alluding to season ticket holders that sell their tickets to Toronto games, if that wasn't what you meant, fine, but it's a pretty understandable inference for him to make.

We have 6k STHs and there were, what, 10k Leaf fans at the game last night? No, I don’t think every single STH holder sold their ticket(s). Are they a part of the problem? Definitely. But so are fans who buy blocks of tickets to sell them at a quick 30% turnaround. So are resellers who scalp professionally. So are fans who let tickets get scooped up by Leaf fans instead of buying them themselves because they “don’t like the atmosphere” of those games. The problem is complex and multifaceted and the solution is probably more complicated too. But at the end of the day the blame lays with fans of the team who, for a myriad of reasons, would rather not attend and let visitors fill the arena instead.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I didn’t single out STHs… but I guess when you’re blindly enraged by everything someone says it’s hard to slow down and read their post properly. Why haven’t you blocked me yet???

Seems like you did.
Sens played a great game and lost in the SO.
Leaf fans are saying they played bad and reffing sucked.

 

[Larionov]

if the sens were actually in a playoff race I don't think a ton of STH would have sold for tonight.

Would be interesting to see how many tickets switched hands after our western road trip. I suspect many.

I know of at least a few people who sold their tickets in the last week. It sucks, but it's a straight up business decision for them. If we had gone 5-1 in our last five instead of 1-5? Different night. Still a lot of blue, but way different vibe.

Now, even when we are winning, there will still be a lot of stinky blue jerseys in the stands. It won't be nearly as bad as last night, as the bandwagon Leaf fans will be gone, but enough to be annoying. They are like mosquitoes in that you can't get rid of them - you can only hope to keep the numbers down somewhat. It's like Yankees jerseys in baseball - it's the franchise in the largest market in the biggest hockey nation on earth, and they will have a doggedly loyal following even when they sink to the bottom of the standings again. "My grandpa/dad/uncle/older brother was a Leafs fan - he has a signed card from Johnny Bower/Darryl Sittler/Wendel Clark, blah blah blah..." We're fighting a ton of history, as we've all noted before...

 

[bert]

We have 6k STHs and there were, what, 10k Leaf fans at the game last night? No, I don’t think every single STH holder sold their ticket(s). Are they a part of the problem? Definitely. But so are fans who buy blocks of tickets to sell them at a quick 30% turnaround. So are resellers who scalp professionally. So are fans who let tickets get scooped up by Leaf fans instead of buying them themselves because they “don’t like the atmosphere” of those games. The problem is complex and multifaceted and the solution is probably more complicated too. But at the end of the day the blame lays with fans of the team who, for a myriad of reasons, would rather not attend and let visitors fill the arena instead.

So the people who support the team most and are responsible for the 2nd largest growth in NHL attendance are the problem. There are actually close to 10 k over a 100% increase and the sens are going to have 14 + sell outs this year.

I'd say people that don't buy tickets but bitch and moan about the people who actually support the team are the problem. But that's maybe because I'm 'blindly enraged'.....

 

[umma gumma]

It is frustrating, the goalie situation as obviously Sogaard would like at least one of those back. The loser on here that says he sucks…he shouldn’t even be here. He is supposed to be earning his stripes and experience in the AHL.

Clearly he isn’t ready. But he is trying hard and while he whiffed on the Marner one, who is a great player, he made a lot of point blank saves and a lot in the shootout. He is 22. For someone to say he sucks just goes to show how shit a lot of fans are here.

This team is not getting the timely saves but I find it hard to blame Sogaard for that; he's not supposed to be here. The numerous odd man rushes don't help.

 

[Micklebot]

We have 6k STHs and there were, what, 10k Leaf fans at the game last night? No, I don’t think every single STH holder sold their ticket(s). Are they a part of the problem? Definitely. But so are fans who buy blocks of tickets to sell them at a quick 30% turnaround. So are resellers who scalp professionally. So are fans who let tickets get scooped up by Leaf fans instead of buying them themselves because they “don’t like the atmosphere” of those games. The problem is complex and multifaceted and the solution is probably more complicated too. But at the end of the day the blame lays with fans of the team who, for a myriad of reasons, would rather not attend and let visitors fill the arena instead.

Why do you think scalpers are fans that would otherwise cheer on the team? Idk, doesn't seem like something that only fans can do, I'm also curious why you think all those Leafs fans in attendance bought on the secondary market, rather than save their money and not pay a 30% premium you're saying the scalpers are charging.

Fans staying away because of the atmosphere is definitely an issue, that doesn't mean those sens fans are going out and buying tickets to sell them to Leafs fans at a profit though, that seems like really bizarre assumption, STH at least already have the tickets.

 

[Larionov]

So if you own a half season package up in the 300s, selling your pair from last night pays for at least three, maybe four games. Then you sell your Habs tickets for at least double face value, and suddenly you've covered off a decent chunk of your package. It's awfully tempting if you're on a budget. I guarantee you that Erin Crowe (Sens Chief Bean Counter) was extremely happy last night, and will be again on April 1. Even if we are in first place in the Atlantic next year, you will still see an absolute ton of blue team jerseys in the stands.

Also, as has been pointed out previously, during the pandemic alone the Ottawa area saw about 30,000 move here from the GTA. That's an absolutely staggering number when you think about it. Now we know how the people in Nova Scotia felt when suddenly the house next door got bought by someone with Ontario license plates... ;-)

 

[Adrianopolous]

So if you own a half season package up in the 300s, selling your pair from last night pays for at least three, maybe four games. Then you sell your Habs tickets for at least double face value, and suddenly you've covered off a decent chunk of your package. It's awfully tempting if you're on a budget. I guarantee you that Erin Crowe (Sens Chief Bean Counter) was extremely happy last night, and will be again on April 1. Even if we are in first place in the Atlantic next year, you will still see an absolute ton of blue team jerseys in the stands.

Also, as has been pointed out previously, during the pandemic alone the Ottawa area saw about 30,000 move here from the GTA. That's an absolutely staggering number when you think about it. Now we know how the people in Nova Scotia felt when suddenly the house next door got bought by someone with Ontario license plates... ;-)

Why did people move to Ottawa during the pandemic?