Blue Jays Discussion: Manoah gets the Halladay treatment (optioned to rookie-ball to try and fix him)

[canucksfan]

At least half their team also had George Springer-level injury concerns coming in to the season, though, so it's no exactly like the injuries are some unfortunate fluke or something... it's how the team was built.

Yup. Stanton hasn't had a healthy season since 2018. Donaldson and Hicks get injured often. Bader also hasn't been healthy in his career. Rotation is great on paper but injuries were a big concern. Montas hasn't been healthy and he's gone for the year. Rodon and Severino have been injured a lot in their careers and not surprisingly both are on the injured list.

While Judge has been healthy most of his career, he's a big guy playing a lot in the outfield so he might not hold up all year either.

 

[Puckstuff]

The Jays starting rotation is 1st in the MLB in innings pitched.

The twins were 1st heading into tonight but with Kikuchi going 5.2 and Maeda going 3.0 we will be 1st when they update it tomorrow.

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[canucksfan]

The Jays starting rotation is 1st in the MLB in innings pitched.

The twins were 1st heading into tonight but with Kikuchi going 5.2 and Maeda going 3.0 we will be 1st when they update it tomorrow.

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This is important because last year the pen got so much use to start. Ryu, Berrios, and Kikuchi really struggled.

There's not much to dislike about the Jays currently. Every player seems to be doing well. Varsho is really the only one really struggling now and that's just at the plate.

The Seattle series will be interesting because you know the players will want to send a message.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

What is the pitcher/catcher situation matchup wise?

I think I know that Manoah gets caught by Kirk. Do we have any other specific pitcher/catcher matchup?

 

[Puckstuff]

This is important because last year the pen got so much use to start. Ryu, Berrios, and Kikuchi really struggled.

There's not much to dislike about the Jays currently. Every player seems to be doing well. Varsho is really the only one really struggling now and that's just at the plate.

The Seattle series will be interesting because you know the players will want to send a message.

It also helps when your defence makes less errors. Some of those inning extending errors that result in your pitcher throwing an extra 20 pitches because some guy fumbled a ball are absolute killers. Defence has been good recently, even Bo.

 

[Thornbury]

What is the pitcher/catcher situation matchup wise?

I think I know that Manoah gets caught by Kirk. Do we have any other specific pitcher/catcher matchup?

I think Kikuchi has worked with Jansen, and given how well he's been pitching this year, I assume they'll maintain that pairing.

 

[GoonieFace]

They really need to move Varsho down the lineup. Give him some time to figure it out. Him hitting 4th or 5th isn’t doing anyone favors

 

[Bjindaho]

Some quick thoughts after last night's game:

Bo's statcast says he is a 0 on balls in. Looking at the positioning chart, his worst two seasons defensively both involved him playing closer to 2B, whereas his 3 better years have all been closer to traditional SS. If my memory isn't failing me, the throw he specifically struggles with is the one where he charges and moves away from 1B, which has been happening significantly less this year because he's not as close to 2B.

Since the 18th (the game after the Gausman disaster), the Jays starters have the best fWAR (1.9 with 1.6 next best) and tied for the best pitching staff. They are 6th in hitting.

 

[theaub]

Jays attendance is going to be wild this year. Friday and Saturday are both sold out which at least in my memory is unheard of for a non-home opener April series even taking into account the reduced capacity this year.

 

[Bjindaho]

Jays attendance is going to be wild this year. Friday and Saturday are both sold out which at least in my memory is unheard of for a non-home opener April series even taking into account the reduced capacity this year.

Currently 8th in attendance. Just maintaining that for the rest of the year would give us 2.7M.

Toronto finished 8th last year with 2K less fans per game.

 

[stats1]

This is important because last year the pen got so much use to start. Ryu, Berrios, and Kikuchi really struggled.

There's not much to dislike about the Jays currently. Every player seems to be doing well. Varsho is really the only one really struggling now and that's just at the plate.

The Seattle series will be interesting because you know the players will want to send a message.

If Kikuchi and Berrios can keep this up consistently the Jays reach a whole new level. The only issue would be the BP, but usually there are a ton of arms available at the trade deadline.

 

[theaub]

I do expect attendance to also be up league wide considering the clear success of the pitch clock.

Also good article on Berrios. Clusterluck has been his big issue so far

José Berríos Is Terrible. Or Great. It Depends on How You’re Counting.

Baseball is a weird sport sometimes. Exhibit A: the highs and lows of the Toronto’s erstwhile star.

blogs.fangraphs.com

 

[Bjindaho]

If Kikuchi and Berrios can keep this up consistently the Jays reach a whole new level. The only issue would be the BP, but usually there are a ton of arms available at the trade deadline.

The BP has been midpack, but that's with Cimber having absolutely trash numbers.

One thing this team has that previous teams didn't is actual MLB calibre arms below the big league roster. Either Cimber course corrects and the Jays pen works better or the Jays use some of the Pearson/Jackson/etc depth.

 

[Discoverer]

I do expect attendance to also be up league wide considering the clear success of the pitch clock.

Also good article on Berrios. Clusterluck has been his big issue so far

José Berríos Is Terrible. Or Great. It Depends on How You’re Counting.

Baseball is a weird sport sometimes. Exhibit A: the highs and lows of the Toronto’s erstwhile star.

blogs.fangraphs.com

That's awesome to see... I was looking at his stats the other day and the only thing that stood out as being really weird/bad was his strand rate at a hilariously low and unsustainable 49%, so I assumed there was some sequencing randomness going on but had no idea how to look into it.

 

[Discoverer]

Jays attendance is going to be wild this year. Friday and Saturday are both sold out which at least in my memory is unheard of for a non-home opener April series even taking into account the reduced capacity this year.

In a similar series last year (mid-week series in late April ending in a day game) they drew a total of 87,204 fans against Boston. This series cleared 90,000.

The really crazy part? Last year's was a four game series.

Clearly there's a lot of interest in this team right now.

 

[MAB1]

In a similar series last year (mid-week series in late April ending in a day game) they drew a total of 87,204 fans against Boston. This series cleared 90,000.

The really crazy part? Last year's was a four game series.

Clearly there's a lot of interest in this team right now.

- Should be a top 2-3 team in the AL
- New stadium renovations
- Pitch clock
- Improved team
- Cheaper seats in comparison to Raps or Leaf games
- Imagine the warmer than usual weather also helped earlier in the month.

Hope the interest is sustained for years to come.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Shapiro did an amazing job with the Jays all around. Rogers did great hiring this guy.

 

[canucksfan]

 

[Blitzkrug]

Outside of Toronto, we have this absolute gem of a rant coming out of ESPN Chicago earlier today; Berto from the west side isn't happy the White Sox are ass garbage.



All time great rant. Dude spit straight truth and somehow held off dropping a single curse word.

 

[canucksfan]

Just checking the boxscores and Danner is pitching in Dunedin. Good sign as he was a potential callup if needed.

 

[canucksfan]

 

[trellaine201]

Weird we have two days off? Seems unusual. I was hoping to watch them play tonight.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Weird we have two days off? Seems unusual. I was hoping to watch them play tonight.

It is just one day off.

 

[Dr.Funk]

Weird we have two days off? Seems unusual. I was hoping to watch them play tonight.

One day off.

Afternoon game yesterday, off today, game tomorrow.

 

[phillipmike]

Outside of Toronto, we have this absolute gem of a rant coming out of ESPN Chicago earlier today; Berto from the west side isn't happy the White Sox are ass garbage.



All time great rant. Dude spit straight truth and somehow held off dropping a single curse word.

I don’t ever listen to stuff like this but this. was. GOLD.