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I love that they got product placement/sponsors, only to totally troll them (Starbucks giving out HJs, lol).
Realizing that FuddRuckers was an actual business in the world was a very jarring experience for young me after being initially exposed to Buttf***ers

This movie is one of my favourites and I love that it came from me browsing box covers at a Blockbuster. How in the f*** can you not want to check this out?

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This and Old School have combined to form a lifelong belief that Luke Wilson should have been the most beloved actor in the world at some point
 
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Serious request, can someone ask chatgpt how to manage the canucks? I am fairly confident chatgpt has the potential to be a better GM than JR
 
Serious request, can someone ask chatgpt how to manage the canucks? I am fairly confident chatgpt has the potential to be a better GM than JR

It's free if you have a Google account.

How would you manage the Vancouver Canucks?

As an AI language model, I don't have personal preferences or opinions, but I can provide some general advice on how to manage a professional sports team like the Vancouver Canucks:

  1. Build a strong team culture: Foster a positive and supportive environment where players feel comfortable and motivated to perform their best.
  2. Invest in player development: Provide resources for coaching and training to help players improve their skills and reach their potential.
  3. Make smart personnel decisions: Evaluate players based on their performance, potential, and fit within the team, and make strategic decisions on trades, signings, and releases.
  4. Develop a game plan: Work with coaches to develop a winning game plan that plays to the strengths of the team and adjusts to opponents.
  5. Communicate effectively: Keep open lines of communication with players, coaches, and management to ensure everyone is on the same page and working towards a common goal.
  6. Continuously evaluate and adjust: Regularly assess the team's performance and make adjustments as needed to improve the team's chances of success.
 
Conjecture is fun but never forget:

Currently, the primary criteria of this ownership group when it comes to hiring management (and coaches) appears to be,

"Never hire someone smarter than yourself."

It explains so much and mutes any attempt for reason.
 
Conjecture is fun but never forget:

Currently, the primary criteria of this ownership group when it comes to hiring management (and coaches) appears to be,

"Never hire someone smarter than yourself."

It explains so much and mutes any attempt for reason.

I disagree... Primarily because I don't think it is realistically possible to hire someone who is not smarter than FAQ.
 
I think its close... they seemed to for the most part be very much on the same page and thought similar.

I think FA is just some guy of average or maybe slightly below-average intelligence who - if he didn't own the team - would be your typical average casual fan who gravitates to the typical bad casual fan takes.

I think his problems are more personality-oriented than that he's outright stupid - his arrogance and meddling and cheapness and general asshole-ness. When you have an arrogant asshole forcing bad casual fan takes on the organization from the top down, you have a problem.

Benning, I legitimately question if his IQ is above 75. The guy couldn't seem to form or articulate a coherent thought.
 
I think FA is just some guy of average or maybe slightly below-average intelligence who - if he didn't own the team - would be your typical average casual fan who gravitates to the typical bad casual fan takes.
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It's free if you have a Google account.

How would you manage the Vancouver Canucks?

As an AI language model, I don't have personal preferences or opinions, but I can provide some general advice on how to manage a professional sports team like the Vancouver Canucks:

  1. Build a strong team culture: Foster a positive and supportive environment where players feel comfortable and motivated to perform their best.
  2. Invest in player development: Provide resources for coaching and training to help players improve their skills and reach their potential.
  3. Make smart personnel decisions: Evaluate players based on their performance, potential, and fit within the team, and make strategic decisions on trades, signings, and releases.
  4. Develop a game plan: Work with coaches to develop a winning game plan that plays to the strengths of the team and adjusts to opponents.
  5. Communicate effectively: Keep open lines of communication with players, coaches, and management to ensure everyone is on the same page and working towards a common goal.
  6. Continuously evaluate and adjust: Regularly assess the team's performance and make adjustments as needed to improve the team's chances of success.
ChatGPT pretty much can't give specific advice or analysis of anything and also won't admit it can't unless you pursue a specific answer, forbid it from giving general answers, and repeat this process several times.
 
It seems like only 'yesterday' that the Rangers and Devils were bottom-feeders in the Eastern Conference. Now they're talked about as potential Cup threats.

Heck it's only been a few seasons since former Ranger GM Jeff Gorton announced that the team was 'going nowhere' and warned fans that a full tear-down and rebuild was necessary for the team to eventually win.

Meantime during the same time-frame the Canucks "re-tool on the fly' has landed them in lottery purgatory, which is where they remain to this day. And nobody is predicting the next couple of seasons will look much different.

But then I guess the Devils and Rangers had owners with some sort of vision and grasp of the realities of the NHL. In Vancouver, not so much.
 
It seems like only 'yesterday' that the Rangers and Devils were bottom-feeders in the Eastern Conference. Now they're talked about as potential Cup threats.

Heck it's only been a few seasons since former Ranger GM Jeff Gorton announced that the team was 'going nowhere' and warned fans that a full tear-down and rebuild was necessary for the team to eventually win.

Meantime during the same time-frame the Canucks "re-tool on the fly' has landed them in lottery purgatory, which is where they remain to this day. And nobody is predicting the next couple of seasons will look much different.

But then I guess the Devils and Rangers had owners with some sort of vision and grasp of the realities of the NHL. In Vancouver, not so much.
Well if you look at how the Rangers “rebuilt” themselves, it’s mostly through trade and free agent signing. The guys they tanked for in Kakko and Lafreniere aren’t really the guys carrying the team out of the tank.
 
the rangers got a top 5 defender in fox and a top line forward in panarin for free because they basically refused to play anywhere but in new york. that's not a reasonable path for other teams to follow (except maybe miami or toronto)

the devils just drafted a ton. hughes, hischier, holtz, mercer, boqvist, zetterlund, mcleod, sharangovich all drafted since 2016. graves, marino, siegenthaler all acquired for draft picks/prospects. hamilton, palat and tatar are the only significant free agents on that team
 
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One of the main things that got the Devils to break out is both being able to pro-scout defencemen, and having the cap space for those defencemen.
 
the rangers got a top 5 defender in fox and a top line forward in panarin for free because they basically refused to play anywhere but in new york. that's not a reasonable path for other teams to follow (except maybe miami or toronto)

the devils just drafted a ton. hughes, hischier, holtz, mercer, boqvist, zetterlund, mcleod, sharangovich all drafted since 2016. graves, marino, siegenthaler all acquired for draft picks/prospects. hamilton, palat and tatar are the only significant free agents on that team
Add in Trouba to that list, who also forced a trade to NYR.
 
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the rangers got a top 5 defender in fox and a top line forward in panarin for free because they basically refused to play anywhere but in new york. that's not a reasonable path for other teams to follow (except maybe miami or toronto)

the devils just drafted a ton. hughes, hischier, holtz, mercer, boqvist, zetterlund, mcleod, sharangovich all drafted since 2016. graves, marino, siegenthaler all acquired for draft picks/prospects. hamilton, palat and tatar are the only significant free agents on that team
New Jersey also got insanely lucky with draft lottery considering they won it three times and ended up drafting 1st twice and 2nd once.

NJ’s path is equally unrealistic. it’s like how would their draft history look if you take out Hughes, Hirscher and Nemec? Pretty meh.

We might finish 5th last like NJ last season. Does anyone here really think we will end up drafting 2nd like them? Probably not because we are like f***ing cursed when it comes to lottery luck.
 
It seems like only 'yesterday' that the Rangers and Devils were bottom-feeders in the Eastern Conference. Now they're talked about as potential Cup threats.

Heck it's only been a few seasons since former Ranger GM Jeff Gorton announced that the team was 'going nowhere' and warned fans that a full tear-down and rebuild was necessary for the team to eventually win.

Meantime during the same time-frame the Canucks "re-tool on the fly' has landed them in lottery purgatory, which is where they remain to this day. And nobody is predicting the next couple of seasons will look much different.

But then I guess the Devils and Rangers had owners with some sort of vision and grasp of the realities of the NHL. In Vancouver, not so much.
To reiterate what others have said, the Rangers got a Norris-calber defender on an ELC for almost free by doing absolutely nothing, didn't do a tear-down rebuild, don't have a single one of their lottery picks in an important role, and likely would have drafted better players in the range of lottery purgatory.
 
To reiterate what others have said, the Rangers got a Norris-calber defender on an ELC for almost free by doing absolutely nothing, didn't do a tear-down rebuild,

Sounds like Vancouver's plan for that last 9 years. Sit on your ass and wait for UFA Norris level Dmen on ELCs to come knocking. It's only a matter of time.
 
To reiterate what others have said, the Rangers got a Norris-calber defender on an ELC for almost free by doing absolutely nothing, didn't do a tear-down rebuild, don't have a single one of their lottery picks in an important role, and likely would have drafted better players in the range of lottery purgatory.
There’s that along with other fortuitous moves (Panarin signing as a free agent), but they’ve made some other excellent moves that required good management/scouting like drafting Miller with a late 1st, Lindgren with a late 2nd, drafting a Vezina goalie with a 4th round pick, choosing to re-sign Kreider, and the Zibanejad trade was the main turning point imo. They’ve had some missteps (mainly that the Trouba trade doesn’t look great when they could have had Pionk at a reduced price, and the Andersson pick), but they’ve nailed most of their big decisions and have filled out their roster with excellent drafting along with hiring a good coach.

You compare the disasters of the Benning regime, which involved the majority of big decisions resulting in colossal failures, and it’s really hilariously depressing how stark the contrast is between the two franchises’ trajectories.
 
The team needs to stop doing these BS bridge deals.

We live in a world where Brock Boeser makes more then Ehlers and 500k less than Connor/Tage Thompson.

Buffalo learned from bridging Dahlin and got Thompson and Cozens locked up long term for low 7s

And instead of paying Petey 8.5 for 8 years we are going to pay him 11-12 per. Horvat was our only good value contract and it's not a surprise that it was not a bridge.

It's how you get a MacKinnon at 6.3 and Hughes at 8 , Draisaitl at 8.5. You have to invest in your core players.
 
New Jersey also got insanely lucky with draft lottery considering they won it three times and ended up drafting 1st twice and 2nd once.

NJ’s path is equally unrealistic. it’s like how would their draft history look if you take out Hughes, Hirscher and Nemec? Pretty meh.

We might finish 5th last like NJ last season. Does anyone here really think we will end up drafting 2nd like them? Probably not because we are like f***ing cursed when it comes to lottery luck.

Yes they got lucky but "equally unrealistic" is hogwash.

Across all sports it's been proven that building through the draft is a good strategy. Full stop.
 
Benning, I legitimately question if his IQ is above 75. The guy couldn't seem to form or articulate a coherent thought.
This is the part that is stressful though. This mf went through a full hiring process with the Canucks and was able to convince them that he was the leader who could take them to the promised land. The Canucks have people in-house who were wooed by the intelligence and charm of Jim f***ing Benning, which indicates to me that these people are equally large morons
 
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