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For sure it's gone badly, he's been awful. I think most were comfortable with a Demko/Martin tandem coming in, though.
Canucker
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Successful teams build through the draft.
Their plan for NHL ready players I have a feeling is going to fail miserably.
Their plan for NHL ready players I have a feeling is going to fail miserably.
TruGr1t
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Of course it’s going to fail. It’s about the lowest probability route they could take to try to be competitive. They have basically no chance of pulling it off.
They’ll flail around for 3-4 years and then end up rebuilding anyway after accomplishing nothing except pissing everyone off.
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LOL
Lebrun was saying there is going to be a huge premium in free agency to come to this trash organization.
I can’t wait to see their signings this offseason
It will be as embarrassing as when we got into a bidding war for Jay Beagle
Or when we offered Poolman $10 mill when nobody was offering over $3
Lebrun was saying there is going to be a huge premium in free agency to come to this trash organization.
I can’t wait to see their signings this offseason
It will be as embarrassing as when we got into a bidding war for Jay Beagle
Or when we offered Poolman $10 mill when nobody was offering over $3
It will be incredible to me that these guys came in and decided to double down on the group that the last guy was fired for assembling. I've never seen anything like it.
Ya. Usually new management will opt for long term options since they have, presumably, the confidence and patience of management for at least a few years. It’s understandable while so many management teams resist rebuilding when they’ve been on the clock for 3-5 years. But this is truly bizarre.
With that said, ownership may not have the autonomy to rebuild, and also, we will have a better read after this summer. While I hate the Miller contract if they decide to “rebuild” then that will go a far way for me as I think the best GMs are ones that are able to make appropriate adjustments, major or minor, when needed.
People have short memories, we heard this before when Edler, Markstrom and Tanev were let go. Vancouver will always attract some players because they have their offseason home here, grew up here etc. I’m not a fan of this management groups work so far or how Bruce was treated but this is just the media being the media. The media blew up a lot of this coaching change, but management should know better than to give the media a juicy story because they’ll run with it and won’t put it away until something happens.
RutherPlan
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Wait you guys actually believe there's going to be a 25% premium on UFAs signing here?
Once again, the media plays you like a fiddle.
Once again, the media plays you like a fiddle.
This is one thing I have been saying the last little bit with how incompetent the media is. We could know so much more with a simple follow up question on some of these details.
For instance Hughes comments on Pearson, why didn't anyone ask him follow ups in the moment? Then we would know where the issue and what the players problems were vs now we have all this speculation.
Or did management talk to bruce about what was going on before his firing? It now appears they didn't, but again a simple follow up.
Its been like this far too long. Get a good quoted and no follow ups.
TruGr1t
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It’s not the media really, it’s their sources, which are probably agents.
Frankie Blueberries
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I’ll take Lebrun’s opinion over a random, arrogant HF poster who seems to be of the ilk that supported the last trash management regime.
me2
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The buck stops with management when it comes to players hired. The fact is that the best goalie in the organisation this year is Delia and that is solely on management.
I would say so. People were definitely happy the Canucks didn't go out and spend a few million on a backup. Unfortunately it didn't work out.
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Wait the media already confirmed Vancouver already overpayed Mikheyev from what anybody else was offering
Guess it isn’t a conspiracy.
Guess it isn’t a conspiracy.
Canucker
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me2
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Blame the coach for the roster? Whether or not Bordeau is doing a good job the roster is on management
My dark theory is we heard so many of these leaks because management wanted to fire Bruce. They didn't want to have him here from the get go and FAQ made them keep him. So they made it as untenable as possible until it had to be done.
Not a good look for anyone except Bruce, and probably show mostly how bad ownership is, but I still don't like from a management perspective. Wonder if they talked to Bruce at all durring this. Sure would have been nice for our media to ask.
Not a good look for anyone except Bruce, and probably show mostly how bad ownership is, but I still don't like from a management perspective. Wonder if they talked to Bruce at all durring this. Sure would have been nice for our media to ask.
RutherPlan
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Or flail around for 3-4 years, then convince themselves that now they have enough good pieces for a retool, and then flail around for another 3-4 years.
Canucker
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Ultimately, fairly or not, the coach is the one who takes the most blame for a team's performance...I don't think the goaltending's poor performance can be attributed to any single thing...I'd say it was a multitude of problems...
-Demko having surgery in the off season contributing to his poor start and eventual injury.
-Management not doing anything of note to improve the defence or penalty killing.
-Spencer Martin despite his good play last season was not ready for the work load and responsibility of a #1 role.
-Coaches don't adjust to play stronger defense to protect their vulnerable goalies.
-Players don't do enough to protect their goalies.
-Delia's playing time limited due to emergency call up.
Yeah that didn't make sense to me either. The best goalie in the organization was obviously supposed to be Demko. How is it management's faul that he's not? That's on Demko.
Cancuks
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The only way to fix this team is to fire JT Miller into the sun. His angry reaction on the bench when that goal where Martin was interfered would be fine is his own performance was up to snuff but this is a guy who clearly blames his teammates for everything when it goes wrong but doesn't own up when he's the problem like in the dying seconds when he makes zero effort on the empty net goal. Just his body language shows he's the cancer in the room. Get this guy out of here even if you need to take back a bad contract and trade Horvat for a haul. Buy out OEL in the summer and trade Myers with 50% retained. Need to build around Pettersson and Hughes.
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