Majority of Board Thinks We'll Get Crushed in SCF
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That would probably be better. This way the Kings are spared the trip to NY, can celebrate the cup in front of their fans plus.. well the environment.
There is nothing wrong with being an enlightened fan, managing expectations.
All other things being =. we have legit outside shot of winning cup only.
I do not recant what i said about how first you become competitive, then win, then win vs the elite, then dominate. Yankee fans that go way back get this.
However, the main premise is "All other things being =".
Something that has been seen in sport, though rarely, is happening here.
All other things are NOT equal.
It's like when the '69 mets took out the Orioles!
Sure, Seaver could pitch with Palmer.
But Ron Swoboda; vs Frank Robinson!!!!
And yet, it happened. Divine Intervention.
The Rangers were good enough to win the conference this year. From behind vs. Pens was not pretty, but it counts. A bit more iffy would have been the Bruins.
But due to DI, answering that ? was not necessary; nor was it necessary to be concerned about the Blues or esp. the Ducks, thanks to DI.
We need only earn it vs. one of either Kings or Hawks.
All these things, coupled with Price going down, for example, makes clear we are potentially a team of destiny.
Again, on paper we might otherwise lose this year, and esp. also to the great champ teams over the years.
But this year, with DI, we should be fine.
We would be worse off with fatigue. Our game expends lots of energy. Training/conditioning is not enough. Extended series are a killer for us.
We must ultimately add a couple of more horses, more differences makers, and dispose of playoff foes quickly.
However, this time, with LA knocking at the door, instead of lights out, we got multiple OT. Chicago won last night. Hope for Chicago, but more importantly another multiple OT game.
Then on Wed, we have to take care of business quickly.
If we convert that edge to a game or two ahead, we have greatly improved odds.
Of course, we also have Divine Intervention.
All other things being =. we have legit outside shot of winning cup only.
I do not recant what i said about how first you become competitive, then win, then win vs the elite, then dominate. Yankee fans that go way back get this.
However, the main premise is "All other things being =".
Something that has been seen in sport, though rarely, is happening here.
All other things are NOT equal.
It's like when the '69 mets took out the Orioles!
Sure, Seaver could pitch with Palmer.
But Ron Swoboda; vs Frank Robinson!!!!
And yet, it happened. Divine Intervention.
The Rangers were good enough to win the conference this year. From behind vs. Pens was not pretty, but it counts. A bit more iffy would have been the Bruins.
But due to DI, answering that ? was not necessary; nor was it necessary to be concerned about the Blues or esp. the Ducks, thanks to DI.
We need only earn it vs. one of either Kings or Hawks.
All these things, coupled with Price going down, for example, makes clear we are potentially a team of destiny.
Again, on paper we might otherwise lose this year, and esp. also to the great champ teams over the years.
But this year, with DI, we should be fine.
We would be worse off with fatigue. Our game expends lots of energy. Training/conditioning is not enough. Extended series are a killer for us.
We must ultimately add a couple of more horses, more differences makers, and dispose of playoff foes quickly.
However, this time, with LA knocking at the door, instead of lights out, we got multiple OT. Chicago won last night. Hope for Chicago, but more importantly another multiple OT game.
Then on Wed, we have to take care of business quickly.
If we convert that edge to a game or two ahead, we have greatly improved odds.
Of course, we also have Divine Intervention.
The isles and devil forums are on life support.....alot of them said they will give up watching hockey if the Rangers win.....ha ha im loving this
haohmaru
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To compare #Rangers' 29-13-4 record over last 46 reg. season games: #Kings were 22-20-4, #Blackhawks 22-14-10 over the same span.
We should just listen to Kings/Hawks fans and just give up and hand them the cup. We'll miss two prime weeks of golfing if we don't.
To compare #Rangers' 29-13-4 record over last 46 reg. season games: #Kings were 22-20-4, #Blackhawks 22-14-10 over the same span.
We should just listen to Kings/Hawks fans and just give up and hand them the cup. We'll miss two prime weeks of golfing if we don't.
Clown Fiesta
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I hope you guys realize that talking about regular season stats like records, whether is be in the last x games or vs either of these teams are completely meaningless. This is the playoffs, it is a completely different animal. Don't look like that desperate fan that is grasping at straws to make an argument. Let them believe this is a bad hockey team, it will be all the sweeter if the Rangers can pull it out.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Oh? Playoff records:
Rangers 12-8
Kings 11-9
Hawks 11-7
"desperate fan that is grasping at straws"? What are you on about? I'm not desperate about anything. The Rangers have been a competitive top 10 team since December. There's nothing to defend and their record, including the playoffs, pretty much speaks for itself.
The media might be pushing this Leastern vs. Bestern conference crap. I don't believe for a second that the Kings or Hawks take the Rangers anything less than very seriously.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
The Isles board is funny, so many bitter and pissed folks over on Long Island
They certainly show their support in their hate for us.
In terms of their support by actually going to their team's games, not so much.
rangerlp
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Everybody last year said we couldn't beat Boston because Bruins had four lines they could go with while we only had three lines. We could also make the argument that we have three full defensive pairings while last year, Torts had Stralman play 8 minutes a game last year because he couldn't trust him more than that. Might be a bigger difference than MSL/Callahan swap, although we can't deny we have more scoring chances w/Marty in the lineup.
On paper I would reluctantly have to agree that the Rangers could get crushed in the SCF.
After all the Rangers beat a bottom feeder in Philly. Piits- A club that staggered to beat the Blue Jackets and the strongest competition Montreal that became an also ran when Price went down. Is the backup a future star or did the Rangers make another rookie goalie look like a future hall of Famer? a struggling offense can do that. Time will tell.
Whoever wins the West had a much tougher trip. LA beat SJose, Anaheim, and is battling Chicago. Perhaps they are the miracle team? The Blackhawks beat the Blues, Wild, and now have to dispose of LA.
Both Western teams have balance and are recent Stanley cup champions. They have proven that they can win the big series. The Rangers still have more questions to answer. They have been a middling playoff team for years. They have outstanding goaltending but so does LA and Chicago.
In 2012 the Rangers lost the ECF to the Devils. The Rangers put up a valiant fight but fell short (fatigue or whatever). The current roster is an improved version.
On D Moore/Diaz + Klein over Bickel and MDZ and Emms. On offense we now have Nash, St Louis, Pulliot, mZA and D.Moore over Cally, Dubi, Anismov, Feds and prust.
I'm not even talking talking about maturation of some players (MCD, etc) who brought their game to a completely new level. So I see some hope in the current team. I still think a piece or two might be needed.
The question mark imo is whether the current team has bought into a system and is truly adept at playing the system that frustrates its opposition. As we have seen from various playoff series to date the competition looks fatigued by the end of the series. Will LA and Chicago look worn down or have we simply been seeing what we wish to see from the Rangers to date. That is, a solid defensive team effort against inferior competition (no Boston, no Montreal (with a starting goalie), no tampa (with a starting goalie). If so, I expect to see LA in six (unless their goalie goes down).
The Rangers might not have the most skilled team on paper but if they can prove that they play the game as a team better than anyone else then I will receive an unexpected treat. In the meantime I'm skeptical but hoping for the best.
I can hope. It's up to the Rangers to try .
But as Yoda said, "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try.
After all the Rangers beat a bottom feeder in Philly. Piits- A club that staggered to beat the Blue Jackets and the strongest competition Montreal that became an also ran when Price went down. Is the backup a future star or did the Rangers make another rookie goalie look like a future hall of Famer? a struggling offense can do that. Time will tell.
Whoever wins the West had a much tougher trip. LA beat SJose, Anaheim, and is battling Chicago. Perhaps they are the miracle team? The Blackhawks beat the Blues, Wild, and now have to dispose of LA.
Both Western teams have balance and are recent Stanley cup champions. They have proven that they can win the big series. The Rangers still have more questions to answer. They have been a middling playoff team for years. They have outstanding goaltending but so does LA and Chicago.
In 2012 the Rangers lost the ECF to the Devils. The Rangers put up a valiant fight but fell short (fatigue or whatever). The current roster is an improved version.
On D Moore/Diaz + Klein over Bickel and MDZ and Emms. On offense we now have Nash, St Louis, Pulliot, mZA and D.Moore over Cally, Dubi, Anismov, Feds and prust.
I'm not even talking talking about maturation of some players (MCD, etc) who brought their game to a completely new level. So I see some hope in the current team. I still think a piece or two might be needed.
The question mark imo is whether the current team has bought into a system and is truly adept at playing the system that frustrates its opposition. As we have seen from various playoff series to date the competition looks fatigued by the end of the series. Will LA and Chicago look worn down or have we simply been seeing what we wish to see from the Rangers to date. That is, a solid defensive team effort against inferior competition (no Boston, no Montreal (with a starting goalie), no tampa (with a starting goalie). If so, I expect to see LA in six (unless their goalie goes down).
The Rangers might not have the most skilled team on paper but if they can prove that they play the game as a team better than anyone else then I will receive an unexpected treat. In the meantime I'm skeptical but hoping for the best.
I can hope. It's up to the Rangers to try .
But as Yoda said, "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try.
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hey hanrahan!
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jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
My post asking you what you said got deleted. I don't understand why? I just asked what you said to lose your avatar. Nothing wrong with finding out what type of comment is made and the punishment that ensues.
Yeah, naturally they're gonna be jealous. I do notice that a lot of other fans travel to the Ranger boards to allegedly post thoughtful things, but in my opinion they are hiding behind "courtesy" intending to incite a response.
Yeah, naturally they're gonna be jealous. I do notice that a lot of other fans travel to the Ranger boards to allegedly post thoughtful things, but in my opinion they are hiding behind "courtesy" intending to incite a response.
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I jinx players.
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While I generally agree with overall sentiment, I disagree somewhat with the bold.
We, LA, the Hawks are great teams, each with a great system, each with players that complement that system.
There are a couple of factors.
Who has more horses?
And by extension, who has more now, taking into acct injjury.
Crap! losing power.
Will edit or supplement in another post later.
best
bernmeister
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The main board is a **** show. It started when Kings fans flipped out after Rangers fans said that McDonagh was close to Doughty. Apparently Doughty >>>>>>>> McDonagh because he is at least equal to if not better than McDonagh defensively and blows him out of the water offensively, even though McDonagh outscored Doughty in the regular season and is only 3 pts behind him in playoff scoring.
Pretty much every thread there talking about the Rangers in the SCF is every other team's fans saying we have no chance, then Rangers fans sarcastically saying Kings in 2, which naturally devolves into bickering and name calling.
That's the main board for ya...
Either way I am fully convinced that West Coast fans do not watch Eastern games. I suppose it's not surprising since most East games start at 4pm out there. One guy said he had to google who Stralman was.
Pretty much every thread there talking about the Rangers in the SCF is every other team's fans saying we have no chance, then Rangers fans sarcastically saying Kings in 2, which naturally devolves into bickering and name calling.
That's the main board for ya...
Either way I am fully convinced that West Coast fans do not watch Eastern games. I suppose it's not surprising since most East games start at 4pm out there. One guy said he had to google who Stralman was.
they said that Doughty is in the tier right below Lidstrom and is on the same leves as Pronger
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