Post-Game Talk: Machinehead vs Ice Cream Girl

[bernmeister]

Obv, nothing worked all game.
Highlight was Boo Nieves appearance.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I missed last night's game, was going to watch it on DVR but my brother texted me "woof" during what would've been the third period so I had an inkling it was about the game and checked the score so I skipped watching.

Seems like it was quite the stinker. Oh well, game 4 of the season under a new coach not going to overreact. How was Shesterkin? Seems like an off night from him along with everyone else.

A win would've been nice with the road trip coming up but oh well.

 

[Larrybiv]

It was vanilla-chocolate swirl.

Kane One Edit:

Tonight we'll do something different. Please vote for the three funniest posts of the game:

















Standings (will be updated next PGT with the winners of tonight's vote):

Place	User	Points
T-1	Kravtsov420	1
T-1	GAGLine	1
T-1	Killem Dafoe	1
T-1	Tob	1
T-1	Crease	1
T-1	EdJovanovski	1
T-1	Fitzy	1
T-1	Boris Zubov	1
T-1	INWOODBLUE (congrats, new guy)	1
T-1	Bob Richards	1

Man, I gotta get in on this. Who does the voting on funniest? I gotta say that @Row I Goon and @Kane One had me pissing myself. Kane neglected to add Brunnette though. He'd be the drunkin male with his 2 bitches.

 

[AlaBlueShirt]

So many top 10 picks... Not a single good player... A couple of average players with the balance being busts.

We need another letter.

They’re going to do a tiktok this time.

 

[Larrybiv]

I'm not jumping, but have to laugh at the overreacting here, which is par for the course. oh well, with that said......I'm not gonna lie.... that I wasn't psyched for this game, was primed (alcohol) and ready for a Ranger blowout, which seemed possible. Boy was I wrong.
Nashville pre-game show was mostly many accolades for the Preds on their previous games, saying they played "very well" with little results. (We all hear that, don't we?) took it with a grain of salt........Boy, I guess they weren't joking. You know, Brunette really is a good coach, he led the Panthers in a good way.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Call up old pal JD and see what he’s willing to offer to blow his load again lol

In preseason Columbus did have a lot of defensemen. So much so that thy were trying to move two.
Since then, they have suffered some damage back there so I’m not really sure what their position is.
But you are right. He was an expensive J.D. pick.
Listening to the comments of Columbus ownership; this could be Davidson’s last year there.
Just what a self righteous, egotistical fat head deserves.

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

Actually fair on RNH and Hall. But they sucked despite that. Theo Fleury was great with the Rangers in 2000-2001 but the Rangers still sucked and were a laughing stock.

Also, while they're unlikely to be a cup contender having one bad game in 4 (the Columbus game wasn't that bad despite the score) doesn't prove or disprove any of that. The 2014 Rangers with a new coach were a disgrace to start the season and made the SCF. That was the year they lost like 9-2 to the Sharks.

Sidebar, I actually really enjoyed the 00-01 team. The defense was utter garbage, but the offense was good and the team was really fun to watch. When I was introducing my wife to the recent history of the team, I actually handpicked mostly games from that one season to kind of highlight the dark ages. 97-98, 98-99, 01-02, 02-03, and 03-04 were just BRUTAL. 99-00 was enjoyable at times, but 00-01 was everything about 99-00 just better.

In 00-01, Richter had a down year, but was still way better than anything Guy Hebert or Kirk McLean could do, and nearly got them into the playoffs before blowing out his knee and the team having to rely on the other two, coupled with Fleury relapsing which should be obvious to everyone nowadays why given the baggage that dude was dealing with his entire pro career.

The "kids" of the era were succeeding (Dvorak, Hlavac, Kim Johnsson all posting career years), Fleury and Messier were solid, and the biggest disappointments offensively at that point were Graves who was unfortunately nearing the end and Val Kamensky who was also.

Their biggest problem was the defense because they wound up playing guys like Dale Purinton half the season on D because they didn't have anyone else, goalie after Richter went down, and not being remotely able to replace Fleury down the stretch.

Of course, they blew all that goodwill up by blowing up the Czechmates trading Johnsson and Hlavac (among others) in the idiotic package for the hollowed out shell of Eric Lindros, and 01-02 was pretty unwatchable till they got Bure, even on one good knee. I hated the Lindros move and still hate it. It set them back three years till they struck gold by signing all of Jagr's buddies over the years in 05-06 and lucked into Lundqvist being an absolute draft steal and sleeper HoFer. Remember, 05-06 we were picked by some to be the worst team in the league, and Kevin Weekes was going to be our starting goalie.

RNH is a pretty good player, but I still see him as a complementary piece. Actually a pretty good comp for Laf/Kakko. Take McDavid and Draisaitl off the PP with RNH though, and I don't think you have an 80+ point player. If Edmonton has to part with one of those guys, it'd probably be RNH, and I wouldn't be surprised if a bad team overpaid for him and wound up with a pretty decent 65 point player instead of what they thought they were getting.

But RNH's game noticeably improved when he was put with better players and allowed to figure it out. And it still took a while. I'd like to think the Rangers would at least be smart enough to see what they have and give their "top prospects" some of those same opportunities, but instead, when it's a blowout, PP1 hops over the boards intact, every time.

The PP looked miles better when Tarasenko was an option to shoot from the RW circle before he Kane trade and the idiotic decision to put Kane on PP1. I don't understand why this team can't look at the existing body of video evidence from last season, come to the same conclusion, and say, hey maybe we should start trying to train our top line RW, who's a #2 overall pick and has a pretty good shot/one-timer for that exact same role.

 

[romba]

I don't know if Kakko's slow, methodical puck-lugging and protecting it until a play manifests is the way Zib and Kreider play.

He actually found both CK and Zibs multiple times in high danger areas where they had options. Kakko was less puck lugging last night and had more purpose while stick handling, understanding where the D would shift and then who would be available and not wasting time or hesitating. They seem to be starting to learn each other's games.

How else do you think he was able to garner an astounding 0 points last night???

Wait romba, your 2 points contradict each other!

Yes....yes they do

 

[duhmetreE]

Some might be missing the forest for the trees.

It’s game 4. Can we come to a consensus at least? Game 15-20 we can collectively panic and complain #WeNeverRebuildProperly

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

 

[Roo Returns]

Obv, nothing worked all game.
Highlight was Boo Nieves appearance.

Surprised Boo didn't have grey hair and bro beard given that he's "retired".

 

[will1066]

He actually found both CK and Zibs multiple times in high danger areas where they had options. Kakko was less puck lugging last night and had more purpose while stick handling, understanding where the D would shift and then who would be available and not wasting time or hesitating. They seem to be starting to learn each other's games.

How else do you think he was able to garner an astounding 0 points last night???

Wait romba, your 2 points contradict each other!

Yes....yes they do

Don't make me do a Spiderman meme on you, mister

I'm expecting a big western swing from Kakko. The hockey out there is wild and open.

 

[Roo Returns]

I think they played a dud last night and that's as deep into it as we need to look.

They've been a very good road team the last few years. Next five are on the road.

This core has had preparation issues going back to the days of AV. They went to a Halloween party 1-2 nights ago and maybe had some drinks. They don't have a vet in his prime to kick their asses.

They'll be fine.

 

[Fitzy]

Some might be missing the forest for the trees.

It’s game 4. Can we come to a consensus at least? Game 15-20 we can collectively panic and complain #WeNeverRebuildProperly

That depends on where we're at when it's 15-20 games in.

Drawing inferences over 4 games is challenging. I've seen NYR play two bad games of which they won one, and two good games of which they've won one. Also Igor hasn't been on his top game to start.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I may be in the minority here but I don't really think Miller should be on PP2, especially not with Gustafsson on the team.

I don't like him on the PP at all, I really don't think he fits that PPQB role at all. Love the player in literally every other game situation but I'm not a fan of him on the PP at all.

 

[romba]

Quick looked good last night which was a nice surprise. Kept us in it and we might have made things interesting if not for a ridiculous (but very relaxing!) stroll across the blue line in the 3rd

 

[Ail]

No, the kids suck because they suck. No team was going to ruin Crosby, Malkin, Eichel, McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Hughes, Dahlin, etc. no matter what they did. It may have taken them longer but their skill would eventually just win out. It’s 4 and 5 and 6 years in for our kids. They suck. Stop with the excuses. Their usage is DUE to their suckage. Pretending that their suckage is due to their usage is honestly a corruption of realistic and levelheaded fandom.

Feed this doomposting right into my veins ungh yeah baby, hit the spot.

"Best Rangers roster in my life!!" Where tho?

The sad part is, if everyone lived up to their billing this probably would be one of the most stacked rosters since the early 90s.

 

[will1066]

I may be in the minority here but I don't really think Miller should be on PP2, especially not with Gustafsson on the team.

I don't like him on the PP at all, I really don't think he fits that PPQB role at all. Love the player in literally every other game situation but I'm not a fan of him on the PP at all.

I don't think he's the type that can patrol the blue line and dish it from the back, meaning he's more effective when he's rushing the puck and constantly on the move.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I don't think he's the type that can patrol the blue line and dish it from the back, meaning he's more effective when he's rushing the puck and constantly on the move.

Agreed, which is why he's effective offensively at even strengths. I just don't see his style fitting as a QB of a PP.

 

[Ail]

Yeah, guys, I'm starting to think they're just not that good.

When did Kakko ever produce off the page? Finland ain't the NHL. It was certainly a logical explanation at the time that he was playing against men. Turns it's just because he's mid.

Kakko has very good skills but no offensive instincts at all. Lafreniere is extremely slow processing the game at this level. The biggest factor in making the jump from non-NHL to NHL hockey is in the brain. They don't have it.

I remember watching him in the World Cup or whatever it was the summer we drafted him and thinking he was going to be a Jagr-lite who would eventually outshine Hughes. I actually even posted it in a thread somewhere just to make sure when AI catalogues this site for the digital library of Alexandria everyone will know how big of a braindead troglodyte I am.

 

[will1066]

In honor of @Row I Goon winning funniest post, here is a video of him fighting off a kangaroo

 

[SnowblindNYR]

That depends on where we're at when it's 15-20 games in.

Drawing inferences over 4 games is challenging. I've seen NYR play two bad games of which they won one, and two good games of which they've won one. Also Igor hasn't been on his top game to start.

I'm starting to think this is just who he is.

 

[CLW]

That’s funny from the Preds shrugs. How are the Rangers still doing the No Quit slogan, come up with something new?

Well, you can't quit if you never start.

So technically the Rangers didn't quit and the meme lives on (if you stretch the truth harder than a lawyer on his tenth Marguerita).

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Sidebar, I actually really enjoyed the 00-01 team. The defense was utter garbage, but the offense was good and the team was really fun to watch. When I was introducing my wife to the recent history of the team, I actually handpicked mostly games from that one season to kind of highlight the dark ages. 97-98, 98-99, 01-02, 02-03, and 03-04 were just BRUTAL. 99-00 was enjoyable at times, but 00-01 was everything about 99-00 just better.

In 00-01, Richter had a down year, but was still way better than anything Guy Hebert or Kirk McLean could do, and nearly got them into the playoffs before blowing out his knee and the team having to rely on the other two, coupled with Fleury relapsing which should be obvious to everyone nowadays why given the baggage that dude was dealing with his entire pro career.

The "kids" of the era were succeeding (Dvorak, Hlavac, Kim Johnsson all posting career years), Fleury and Messier were solid, and the biggest disappointments offensively at that point were Graves who was unfortunately nearing the end and Val Kamensky who was also.

Their biggest problem was the defense because they wound up playing guys like Dale Purinton half the season on D because they didn't have anyone else, goalie after Richter went down, and not being remotely able to replace Fleury down the stretch.

Of course, they blew all that goodwill up by blowing up the Czechmates trading Johnsson and Hlavac (among others) in the idiotic package for the hollowed out shell of Eric Lindros, and 01-02 was pretty unwatchable till they got Bure, even on one good knee. I hated the Lindros move and still hate it. It set them back three years till they struck gold by signing all of Jagr's buddies over the years in 05-06 and lucked into Lundqvist being an absolute draft steal and sleeper HoFer. Remember, 05-06 we were picked by some to be the worst team in the league, and Kevin Weekes was going to be our starting goalie.

RNH is a pretty good player, but I still see him as a complementary piece. Actually a pretty good comp for Laf/Kakko. Take McDavid and Draisaitl off the PP with RNH though, and I don't think you have an 80+ point player. If Edmonton has to part with one of those guys, it'd probably be RNH, and I wouldn't be surprised if a bad team overpaid for him and wound up with a pretty decent 65 point player instead of what they thought they were getting.

But RNH's game noticeably improved when he was put with better players and allowed to figure it out. And it still took a while. I'd like to think the Rangers would at least be smart enough to see what they have and give their "top prospects" some of those same opportunities, but instead, when it's a blowout, PP1 hops over the boards intact, every time.

The PP looked miles better when Tarasenko was an option to shoot from the RW circle before he Kane trade and the idiotic decision to put Kane on PP1. I don't understand why this team can't look at the existing body of video evidence from last season, come to the same conclusion, and say, hey maybe we should start trying to train our top line RW, who's a #2 overall pick and has a pretty good shot/one-timer for that exact same role.

That was my first season and I remember an extraordinary amount from that season given how long ago it was.

 

[Leonardo87]

@Machinehead did you get ice cream?