LW Patrik Laine - Tappara, Liiga (2016 Draft) IX

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When you watch that video it's pretty clear that Laine has some unique skills for a prospect and his shot is just one of them. I think he has every rights to say he should be the first overall pick.
 
Ha, there is no such word as double standard in the Leafs grammar. :laugh:

Actually checked the Matthews thread (haven't seen a reason to toxicate it the way the Leafs have done here) and saw the "already Kopi-lite" evaluations. They are writing about a guy who practically played 0 PK minutes last season. He's pretty heavy built but nowhere close to being even good defensive center in NHL standard and about a light year behind f.ex. Barkov at the same age in that regard. Matthews is offense first type of a center. Don't think he'll ever be Malkin-good but I could be wrong, franchise caliber regardless.

So we got two offensive minded forwards in the top two. Laine has outscored or outplayed him in every competition this season and is a lot younger. I'm not suprised he thinks he should go first. Still I hope that's not how it plays out.

I agree. Also i don't predict him Malkin good, only they are pretty much similar type of playing. But AM has long way to that level what Malkin is. Laine too have long way to be one of the best forward and i think most of are happy if he have healthy and good season with like 30 points. Also i like when he in himself take that 5 years timeline, not just say that he is best forward in NHL next year, but say that he believe he can be best after 5 years and he do anything to be best. If he then come just very good forward in NHL, he still try to do everything and do all the training to come best, if it's not enough, so be it, but he still believe it and try it. That's what i love Laine very much and it's not typical hockey player talking old cd again and again, but be and have good self-esteem and don't scare to say what is his goal.
 
A what now where what? What's that thing? Not asking for myself but for the well-being of our tabloid press. An odd picture of Puljujärvi in a outdoor bathing tub in front of a lake just ain't gonna alone cut it for the slow months.

Canada does a world junior camp every summer. I thought Finland did the same.
 
Canada does a world junior camp every summer. I thought Finland did the same.

http://teamusa.usahockey.com/news_article/show/613441?referrer_id=2328362

U.S. To Face Canada, Finland and Sweden in Plymouth, Michigan, from July 30-Aug. 6 at the National Junior Evaluation Camp
USA Hockey announced today that the 2016 U.S. National Junior Evaluation Camp will take place at USA Hockey Arena in Plymouth, Michigan, from July 30-Aug. 6, 2016.

The week-long camp will include 10 international competitions between Canada, Finland, Sweden and the United States and serve as preparation for the 2017 International Ice Hockey Federation World Junior Championship which will take place from December 26, 2016, through January 5, 2017, in Montreal and Toronto, Canada.
 
Canada does a world junior camp every summer. I thought Finland did the same.

Oh. Apparently last year there was a "test and ice camp" at the end of July, preceding "int. match-ups" in early August in Lake Placid and a four-country tourney on Russia at the end of August. Can't find the dates for this year's stuff up yet.

Yeah I think he just gonna fax in a copy of the WHC silver medal and be done with it, for the camp bit.
 
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clearly you didn't read it. Several Fins and a few Jets fans went all Laine all over that thread.
If you meant myself, what I recently did was point out that Laine was playing the wing he doesn't play in WCs in 5v5 and hence conclusions cannot be drawn off that. if that misconception wasn't presented, I would not have mentioned it.


If some Laine-fan openly bashed Matthews here with a misinformed opinion, I wouldn't fault you for correcting it. It's quite different from specifically putting a player down for the sake of putting them down.
 
http://teamusa.usahockey.com/news_article/show/613441?referrer_id=2328362

U.S. To Face Canada, Finland and Sweden in Plymouth, Michigan, from July 30-Aug. 6 at the National Junior Evaluation Camp
USA Hockey announced today that the 2016 U.S. National Junior Evaluation Camp will take place at USA Hockey Arena in Plymouth, Michigan, from July 30-Aug. 6, 2016.

The week-long camp will include 10 international competitions between Canada, Finland, Sweden and the United States and serve as preparation for the 2017 International Ice Hockey Federation World Junior Championship which will take place from December 26, 2016, through January 5, 2017, in Montreal and Toronto, Canada.



Excellent news.
 
clearly you didn't read it. Several Fins and a few Jets fans went all Laine all over that thread.

That's true, but you can't find that anti-Matthews hate mongering there.

And you do find more outrageous claims about superiority of AM there than you can find about Laine from here.

You know, about that guy that's like Kopitar, just better, TOP-10-15 center at the start of next year, 60+ points in rookie season and then minimum 85 points per season while being that Kopitar in his own end.

Not too bad.

AM is also a dark horse for the next year, I reckon.
 
When you watch that video it's pretty clear that Laine has some unique skills for a prospect and his shot is just one of them. I think he has every rights to say he should be the first overall pick.

The way he moves reminds me a bit of Rick Nash for some reason.
 
Liking Laine more and more as I watch his interviews. Seems like a pretty good guy.

Him and Matthews will make this a draft to remember. Leafs and Jets are both very lucky and I would bet that both players could be legends and cornerstones for their teams.

Also, apparently his name is pronounced like 'line' rather than Laine.
 
Liking Laine more and more as I watch his interviews. Seems like a pretty good guy.

Him and Matthews will make this a draft to remember. Leafs and Jets are both very lucky and I would bet that both players could be legends and cornerstones for their teams.

Also, apparently his name is pronounced like 'line' rather than Laine.
Sorry for being useless but where can I find these interviews?
 
Also, apparently his name is pronounced like 'line' rather than Laine.

'Line-eh', I think they got it pinned down to in an earlier thread.

Let's hope for there being a reason soon enough for a pronounciation lesson by a Finnish commentator like there was for the rookie they got in San Jose.
 
It seems sacrilegious to make such a comparison but I agree.

Nash had 40 goals as a 19 year old and would be a much more admired player if he wasn't so media shy and if Columbus wasn't such a bad team.

I think it's a good comparison.
 
Nash had 40 goals as a 19 year old and would be a much more admired player if he wasn't so media shy and if Columbus wasn't such a bad team.

I think it's a good comparison.

Are you guys really certain? :laugh:
 
Also, apparently his name is pronounced like 'line' rather than Laine.
As has been said many times in about every Laine thread, yeah, it's "Line-eh" or "Lie-nay" in written English phonetics. It's funny, though, that Laine himself was so nervous during the Don Cherry thing that he said something like "I'm Patrik Leöieöin, play for Tappara, Tampere Finland" :laugh: What makes it funny is that it's usually the interviewers/commentators/whatnot that mispronounce people's names ("Team-U Suh-Lawn-Ee", anyone?), but this time around (with all the coverage during the year and TSN/Sportsnet folk having done their homework), everyone was very much aware of how the name is pronounced properly but Laine himself messed it up when given the mic and the task of introducing himself live on TV.
 
Laine's strength is not only his shot and finish, but puck handling, making plays in tight, and maintaining possession. I thought the criticism from the WHC was the other player does not get involved enough trying to gain possession when the puck is a long the boards. Laine has an elite shot, puck handling, hockey IQ, and significant size already to make an impact in the NHL. To me it is only a matter of giving him time to adjust to the NHL, and the inevitable filling out of his 6'4 frame. When all these things happen, either he will beat teams with his talent, or teams will key on him freeing his teammates up to beat teams. He's a marvellous prospect whose 2015-2016 season accomplishments we haven't seen the like of in decades.

Laine is a very strong possession player. Tappara's primary opening play in the playoffs when Laine was on the ice involved him bulldozing the puck to the offensive zone, using both "quick skill to get around defenders" as well as "power to hold them off". Even though he failed sometimes when he went 1v3 and the opposing players were playing his body instead of the puck, those scenarios still showed how difficult he is to stop.

For instance, at 1:18-1:25 in this video, he goes 1v3, takes control of the puck and passes it to a teammate as well as knocking one of the players down:


I never said Laine, was bad at it, but he's not at Matthews level at it. Its Matthews best skill, Matthews also is better at adjusting after getting through to get his shot off. Laine's strength isn't making plays in tight, he rarely gets by a defender in the offensive zone then finishes the play, most of his goals come from either the left side or clear breakaways. Just because Matthews is better at something, doesn't mean Laine is bad at it, the same applies to there shots but in the opposite way.
 
As has been said many times in about every Laine thread, yeah, it's "Line-eh" or "Lie-nay" in written English phonetics. It's funny, though, that Laine himself was so nervous during the Don Cherry thing that he said something like "I'm Patrik Leöieöin, play for Tappara, Tampere Finland" :laugh: What makes it funny is that it's usually the interviewers/commentators/whatnot that mispronounce people's names ("Team-U Suh-Lawn-Ee", anyone?), but this time around (with all the coverage during the year and TSN/Sportsnet folk having done their homework), everyone was very much aware of how the name is pronounced properly but Laine himself messed it up when given the mic and the task of introducing himself live on TV.

Here it is here: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/ron-don-nhls-top-prospects-house/

At the 3:00 mark.

I chalked it up to not speaking clearly as well...
 

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