LW Patrik Laine (2016, 2nd, WPG) XVI

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Laine: 8 points in 4 games
Matthews: 1 point in 7 games

WPG and Finnish fans had to endure the Matthews 4 goal game and gloating that ensued. Laine is crushing it, hopefully you guys are enjoying Laine clearly outplaying Matthews right now.

So what you're saying is that Matthews fans jumped the gun on a small sample size and overreacted to some goals? :sarcasm:
 
It's true that the sample size is small and Laine is obviously sporting a hot streak right now. But to lead the NHL in goals after 15 games is not a fluke. I hoped so much that Laine would do great in his first season and I was actually worried that he might need a lot fo time to adjust to the pace and the smaller ice. Now that we've seen him play there is no doubt about his abilities.

I don't really care about the "who should have gone #1 OA" debate, but I'm just so happy that Laine has proved without a doubt that he in fact is the same level prospect as Matthews was.
 
He is an unbelievably quick learner:



In the second half of last season, he was improving on a game-to-game basis. Tappara observers last year saw Laine's incredible transformation over the course of the campaign. It has continued this season. His development remains at a "rocket-like" pace.
 
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I think his best play last night is where he was the defenceman back on a 2 on 1. Great stick check with no shot on goal.
 
Scheifele has a shot winning the art ross. Laine with the calder and rocket. Enjoying Laine's line quite a bit.

Calm down a bit. Their paces will most likely decrease during the course of the year and while other more veteran players will step their games up. Ovi and Stamkos will probably pass Laine for the Rocket and atleast McDavid and Crosby will pass Scheifele for Art Ross. I do think that Laine is the top candidate for Calder atm, if he'll hit 40 he will win it for sure

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But realistically, what do you expect him to shoot on the year? Over 18%?.

Over 10 sure, over 15 even likely, over 18 still possible with the start he has had, over 20 basically close to zero chance of happening and requires lottery type of luck. Someone will eventually eclipse 20 in a season though. Keeping up 25 through 82 games is not possible. Not in todays game and not even in the 80's.
 
On a related note, does anyone have Laine's actual shooting percentage from last season? I know the Finnish league tracked all shot attempts so the ones posted would be artificially low, so does any poster have what it was going by NHL standards.

In regular season he played 46 games, took total of 253 shots and scored 17 goals. 89 of shots were missed so NHL equivalent shot number was 164 (3.56 shots per game) and shooting percentage 10.37 %.

Playoffs: 18 games, 112 total shots, 10 goals. 34 missed shots, 78 "NHL shots" (4.33 per game), 12.82 %.

In regular season he was fifth in shots per game (league leading Tomáš Záborský, 4.05) and in playoffs first, so he was high volume shooter, if someone actually needs a stat for that.
 
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Over 10 sure, over 15 even likely, over 18 still possible with the start he has had, over 20 basically close to zero chance of happening and requires lottery type of luck. Someone will eventually eclipse 20 in a season though. Keeping up 25 through 82 games is not possible. Not in todays game and not even in the 80's.

Stamkos had 19.8% when he scored 60. It's rare but i don't really see why laine couldn't be as efficient or close.
 
He is an unbelievably quick learner:



In the second half of last season, he was improving on a game-to-game basis. Tappara observers last year saw Laine's incredible transformation over the course of the campaign. It has continued this season. His development remains at a "rocket-like" pace.


That's the thing that has surprised me as well. How quick a learner Laine is. The stats are self explanatory. But the eye test is even more confirmation. How much better he looks from the WC to 15 games into the season. His development if you want to plot it on a graph is pushing a 45' angle. I am starting to think when they talk about the new Crosby/Ovie era, it will be the new Mcdavid/Laine era very soon. Except with one difference both Mcdavid and Laine have already displayed winning pedigrees in their short careers.
 
I project and predict.

Our own one trick pony will fight against a goon/pest pretty soon.

It shouldn't come as a surprise.

He was the best goon and pest in his own system.

I have Absolutely no doubts that this kind specimen could not perform well even in a role of D of 4th line auxiliary. Further notions then that would only feed a hype.
 
I project and predict.

Our own one trick pony will fight against a goon/pest pretty soon.

It shouldn't come as a surprise.

He was the best goon and pest in his own system.

I have Absolutely no doubts that this kind specimen could not perform well even in a role of D of 4th line auxiliary. Further notions then that would only feed a hype.

That's good then since his job is to score goals, my dude.
 
That's good then since his job is to score goals, my dude.

I see a development in him that goes beyond just goal scoring. He is starting to learn how to use his size more. When he fills out, he will be darn right hard to handle. Promising to see him not be afraid of contact. I also see him developing into one of the Jets leaders with Scheifele, and perhaps Ehlers ironically the entire kid line.

He is already a 200 ft player, I don't know if anyone mentioned this but he made a defensive play last night that saved a goal. He is certainly not a one way player.
 
Top 10 in league scoring > 1/6 of the way through the season. Can it last ?
Totally impressive start from a kid that won't turn 19 until next April.
 
Laine: 8 points in 4 games
Matthews: 1 point in 7 games

WPG and Finnish fans had to endure the Matthews 4 goal game and gloating that ensued. Laine is crushing it, hopefully you guys are enjoying Laine clearly outplaying Matthews right now.

Weren't you congratulating the Leafs fans for drafting the BPA just a little while ago? ;)

(I don't mind really though)

Anyway, such fun to watch an "off-game" from Laine where he manages to get on the score sheet regardless of being on top of his game. Also, Ehlers can be one frustrating player at times. Laine fed him a cross ice pass where most of the scorers would have put the puck on the top shelf, and rewind a game or so backwards, Laine sends him on a breakaway and he misses. Luckily he didn't miss on the last opportunity.
 
Laine's elbow room is rather wide. Try succumb it, and there will be retaliation... in way or another.

Fellow Finns like Psycho_Dad point to that Quality in their metatexts about Pate.
 
What was OEL thinking?

Absolutely perfect stick placement by Laine. It takes incredible hockey sense to pull off that play against one of the NHL's best defensemen. :sarcasm:

(Ehlers owed him that one, since he flubbed a perfectly executed 2-on-1 chance with Laine earlier in the game).
 
Laine: 8 points in 4 games
Matthews: 1 point in 7 games

WPG and Finnish fans had to endure the Matthews 4 goal game and gloating that ensued. Laine is crushing it, hopefully you guys are enjoying Laine clearly outplaying Matthews right now.

So unprompted, you put down Matthews in the Laine thread. This only two weeks after you said:

Matthews is obviously the best player from the 2016 draft class, he's a special talent. Laine as well deserves his number 2 spot, you just don't see guys with his shot come along often.

Amazing how quickly things change!
 
That's good then since his job is to score goals, my dude.

His job is to win the games. By scoring, by playmaking, by making zone entries, by backchecking, by hitting and so on.

He can make it all, and I, as a heterosexual almost middle aged man, have to admit I have fallen love with his play. I did watch so many of his games last season.

One of my favourites is how that 17-year-old guy did just ridicule that 26-year-old brother of Phil & Amanda Kessel:

https://youtu.be/5H3dJGt2N-o (Blake Kessel #20 ridiculing starts at 03:10)
 
Over 10 sure, over 15 even likely, over 18 still possible with the start he has had, over 20 basically close to zero chance of happening and requires lottery type of luck. Someone will eventually eclipse 20 in a season though. Keeping up 25 through 82 games is not possible. Not in todays game and not even in the 80's.

Stamkos had 19.8% over 82 games. That's awfully close.

He scored 60 goals that season.
 
To be fair he never said Laine is better :dunno:

But he's putting down leaf fans for aggressively pumping matthews tires when he was hitting the back of the neck when he was at the forefront of that whole movement. Strange.
 
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Top 10 in league scoring > 1/6 of the way through the season. Can it last ?
Totally impressive start from a kid that won't turn 19 until next April.

I would have originally been floored with 25 goals and ~ 50 points for his first year in NA.

Judging from the way he has played, and the way Scheifele and Ehlers have looked, I would not be surprised if he ended up with more than 50 by the end of the year if they stick together.

I don't think he'll touch the top 10 though, which could be 75+ points this year.
 
So unprompted, you put down Matthews in the Laine thread. This only two weeks after you said:



Amazing how quickly things change!

To be fair he never said Laine is better :dunno:

But he's putting down leaf fans for aggressively pumping matthews tires when his was hitting the back of the neck when he was at the forefront of that whole movement. Strange.

Could you guys take this discussion somewhere else, this is for Laine-related stuff :(
 

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