LW Arthur Kaliyev (2019, 33rd, LAK)

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Would love to one day find out why he was on so many no-draft lists.
too many guys like this still involved in the game...

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Highest PPG in the OHL now....

Let’s hear it for all those woke scouts from teams outside the top 10.

There's zero chance he gets picked over someone like Caufield still, but there's a good chance he'll make a lot of teams in the bottom 1st regret their decision.
 
Eh, I had Caufield 6th and Kaliyev 11th (IIRC) but recognized that on talent alone, he deserved to be higher. I think Kaliyev is a neutral-impact player most of the time he's on the ice, but he only needs a couple of plays to suddenly have a multi-point game.

He's very smart and talented but (and this is just going off of Montreal's history of coaches as well as similar complaints I've heard from fans of other teams about their coaches) I think he'll have a hard time establishing himself on a team if a dinosaur coach only sees him as invisible for most of his shifts (despite being more than talented enough to justify that).

Just my $0.02
 
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Kaliyev's stock is rising. He can score in different ways and doesn't rely on the PP to get his goals. He's miles ahead in talent on that bulldogs team.
If he continues on this pace, next summer's redraft he goes top 10.
 
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Eh, I had Caufield 6th and Kaliyev 11th (IIRC) but recognized that on talent alone, he deserved to be higher. I think Kaliyev is a neutral-impact player most of the time he's on the ice, but he only needs a couple of plays to suddenly have a multi-point game.

He's very smart and talented but (and this is just going off of Montreal's history of coaches as well as similar complaints I've heard from fans of other teams about their coaches) I think he'll have a hard time establishing himself on a team if a dinosaur coach only sees him as invisible for most of his shifts (despite being more than talented enough to justify that).

Just my $0.02

To add to your point, some oldies love to see the hustle of guys scrambling around whereas everything Arthur does is with purpose. The kid sees the game with an elite hockey IQ, he always seems to be open, he knows exactly where he needs to shot the puck, his passing/playmaking could be elite and he's still really young..
 
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Ugh, he was so close to dropping to the Oilers.
I'm fine with Lavoie who is also having a good start but this is the guy I wanted. Stupid Kings.
 
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Eh, I had Caufield 6th and Kaliyev 11th (IIRC) but recognized that on talent alone, he deserved to be higher. I think Kaliyev is a neutral-impact player most of the time he's on the ice, but he only needs a couple of plays to suddenly have a multi-point game.

He's very smart and talented but (and this is just going off of Montreal's history of coaches as well as similar complaints I've heard from fans of other teams about their coaches) I think he'll have a hard time establishing himself on a team if a dinosaur coach only sees him as invisible for most of his shifts (despite being more than talented enough to justify that).

Just my $0.02

I think Pronman said something to the same effect, something like he was not often shocked/impressed by Kaliyev, but then he'd look at a scoresheet and he'd have 3 points on the night. (mostly) silent assassin.

It makes sense, I mean, I don't think he's gonna be the guy lugging the puck through the neutral zone at the NHL level, just put him anywhere in the ozone though and he's lethal.
 
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Several reasons he dropped (according to several scouts I follow):

Low level of competeness, limited internal drive to succeed, pretty average skater.
 
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