LW Anthony Mantha (2013, 20th, DET) II

[WingsMike]

Ok so I was just thinking about this for a few minutes and figured I would toss it out there.
If you were Detroit, and you knew he wouldn't be bad in Detroit, would you prefer Mantha play in Detroit next year and have Drouin as primary competition for the Calder.... Or play in Grand Rapids for a year and improve even more and adjust to a mens league but have to face off against Mcdavid and Eichel? Who will undoubtedly go straight to the NHL.

Why does the Calder matter?

If you're just asking which year would he be most likely to win it in, I still think it would be after a year of development in GR.

 

[ricky0034]

Ok so I was just thinking about this for a few minutes and figured I would toss it out there.
If you were Detroit, and you knew he wouldn't be bad in Detroit, would you prefer Mantha play in Detroit next year and have Drouin as primary competition for the Calder.... Or play in Grand Rapids for a year and improve even more and adjust to a mens league but have to face off against Mcdavid and Eichel? Who will undoubtedly go straight to the NHL.

what makes you think the Wings care if he wins the Calder? they've done things in a way recently that made it so their prospects like Nyquist and Tatar weren't even eligible for it the first year they had more than a handful of games

 

[WesNichols14]

I don't think the Wings care. I was just thinking about it randomly and figured it could be an interesting conversation.

 

[Karamazov]

Big guys who can score from the outside, so guys like Lupul, Neal, Carter and Benn are good comparisons as for the kind of player he could become.

That analysis you re-posted was fantastic, Mathletic. Thanks for the great insight.

 

[Gorgeous George]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but Datsyuk and Z have each recorded exactly 5 x 70pt+ seasons in their illustrious careers. My point being, so many people just throw around 'player x' will be a 70-80pt player in their career when the fact is very few players ever get to that point. Mantha has as good of potential as any NHL prospect right now, but nothing is a certainty and there is always a chance he becomes a Franzen type of player instead of an annual PPG player.

For the record I believe he will become the caliber of player that you described providing the Wings have other young stars that blossom, I was just pointing out nothing is a given.

You are correct. I should have clarified my 70-80 pt assessment. Generally, I always consider a point assessment as the top 3-4 years during prime barring injury.

This places Mantha as a top line player, posting numbers in the top 20 players in the league during his prime. Lofty expectations, but I think the kid will get there.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Mantha scores with 50 seconds left in game 7 to give his team the Q title!

I believe that brings his total up to 25 goals in 25 games these playoffs. I think this ends the myth that Mantha is not a big game player..

 

[DoubleDouble*]

Mantha scores with 50 seconds left in game 7 to give his team the Q title!

I believe that brings his total up to 25 goals in 25 games these playoffs. I think this ends the myth that Mantha is not a big game player..

Just silly. Seriously.

 

[SimplySolace]

That goal was so ****ing clutch, wow.

 

[Team_Spirit]

81 goals in 81 games including the GWG in game 7 with 52 seconds left.

Unreal.

 

[Crymson]

81 goals in 81 games and the championship-winning tally with 50 seconds left. Amazing.

 

[Claypool]

Dude is going to be a beast. Carried his team to the championship and came up big when it mattered.

 

[Wingsfan2965*]

I'm somewhat convinced that Mantha is the overwhelming reason Holland wont let anybody talk to Blashill.

Give him a year to work out any other kinks in Mantha's game.

 

[Wolverine Wings]

Are we sure Mantha is a top-10 non NHLer? He's making it really hard, with his lack of consistency and woeful effort, especially in the clutch

 

[drw02]

Amazing. And to think he was 'supposed' to be traded to team that was a real title contender.

 

[Petes2424]

I'm somewhat convinced that Mantha is the overwhelming reason Holland wont let anybody talk to Blashill.

Give him a year to work out any other kinks in Mantha's game.

Not sure Blashill will be getting much of a chance. As I've been saying all along with Mantha, he'll be given every chance in Detroit next year. A point Kenny Holland also made this week.

 

[Wingsfan2965*]

Not sure Blashill will be getting much of a chance. As I've been saying all along with Mantha, he'll be given every chance in Detroit next year. A point Kenny Holland also made this week.

I still see him starting the year (And spending most of it) in GR, to be honest.

He'll undoubtedly still get some NHL games, though.

 

[Mantha Poodoo]

81 goals in 81 games including the GWG in game 7 with 52 seconds left.

Unreal.

Let's not forget the pair of assists either.

What this really should be an end to is "this guy can't generate offense on his own"... he generates offense by getting himself into scoring positions well enough that your great grandmother could set him up for a goal.

Goal for anyone who wants to see it, by the way:



Kaboom.

 

[newfy]

I really hope the not big game player label can be put away for good now. A dominant season followed up with a dominant playoff out dueling Drouin and lighting up the top defensive team in the finals. Championship game 7 and he was a force with the game winner as well.

Hes one of the best prospects in the NHL, and the wings traded down to get him

 

[Vankiller Whale]

What do you guys think of Vanek as a comparable projection?

 

[SimplySolace]

What do you guys think of Vanek as a comparable projection?

Perry mostly for me, or maybe Neal. Mantha doesn't do quite as much in front of the net as Vanek.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Perry mostly for me, then maybe Neal.

He skates well enough he is more of the Neal and Jeff Carter type of player.

He doesn't have the center flexibility, but I really see a ton of Jeff Carter when I watch him play.

 

[Vankiller Whale]

Perry mostly for me, or maybe Neal. Mantha doesn't do quite as much in front of the net as Vanek.

I don't see Mantha as having quite the same "pest" factor as Perry or Neal. But I do think that his vision/playmaking is at a higher level, similar to Vanek's.

 

[SimplySolace]

I don't see Mantha as having quite the same "pest" factor as Perry or Neal. But I do think that his vision/playmaking is at a higher level, similar to Vanek's.

He totally has a bit of pest to him. He's surprisingly pretty chirpy during games and isn't afraid to fight now and then, but I can see your point. He certainly isn't just a goal scorer.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

He totally has a bit of pest to him. He's surprisingly pretty chirpy during games and isn't afraid to fight now and then, but I can see your point. He certainly isn't just a goal scorer.

I don't think he will shy away from it completely, but I do think he will chirp a lot less at the NHL level. Keep in mind there is basically nobody that can shut him up in terms of either shutting down his offense or taking it to him physically in his current league. That could account for some of the talking he is doing.

 

[XO]

I don't get to actually watch him play a whole lot but his stats are impressive of course... where do you think he would go in a redraft?