Speculation: Luongo Trade Discussions Thread - All

[JMcLeaf]

Anybody else got some more Photoshopped luongo pics?

 

[CerebralDevil]

It bumps the clock, Again.


But even if you are sure, Why risk Kadri? Even if they both work, What make more sense? 3 good seasons of Luongo or potentially 5+ with Kadri?


If I were Nonis it would be "this is my offer right now if you want to get rid of him now and get him off the books"

Frattin, Bozak and a 3rd


And if that doesn't work we hold, Or go after someone else.

I think I would rather go Conolley,Franson and a 2nd if you want $$$$$ off the books.

Conolley is UFA next year and can contribute in their line-up, Franson could fill Edler if he decides to leave and you get another big shot from the point. Possibly add Bozak if Conolley doesnt tickle his fancy.

 

[frankthetank91]

Can't the thread title just be the Luongo discussion thread? No one really knows who is going to be involved, and Gardiner's not going anywhere and i'm sure Gillis knows that by now.

 

[Confucius]

Can't the thread title just be the Luongo discussion thread? No one really knows who is going to be involved, and Gardiner's not going anywhere and i'm sure Gillis knows that by now.

Sure rename it..... Someone throw the Canucks a lifeline, Or how long until the Canucks buyout Luongo?

 

[Warden of the North]

No thanks.

If Nonis is true to his word, that is, "will only trade a young player for another young player" then this trade doesn't happen.

Besides, as has been discussed, at least one of Komisarek, Connolly or Lombardi has to go West in any deal.

We dont need to send any salary to fit Lu in. And Nonis could still make a trade using vets like Franson and Bozak.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Said it last night, Nonis is not trading Gardiner or Rielly or any of our other young prospects of the Kadri ilk. If he does and he only gets Luongo back, he should be summarily dismissed after what he stated in yesterday's presser.

Now again as I tried to say last night before a poster tried to hijack the thread, it makes no sense or adds any value for Gillis to take Connolly, Bozak(though I think he's quite good, just not enough to seal a deal for Lu), Lombardi, 3rd rd picks, and other fillers to bring Luongo to Toronto, or to move Gillis to make the deal.

So who else in Toronto can we part with that would not destroy our promising prospects cupboard we painfully watched grow the past 4 years.

What would make this deal happen, that wouldn't kill this franchise, there's an obvious fit I posted last night and it may work.

Clue: A #2C on this roster.

For most GM's in the NHL, if not all, a #2C for a #1 allstar Goalie is a good trade off.

 

[egd27]

What do the canucks lack in their team. Like for us its a number one centre and goaltender, what would it be for vancouver. I don't know much of their team.

Would they want macarthur/komisarek/bozak/connolly?

We don't, why would they?

 

[Confucius]

Said it last night, Nonis is not trading Gardiner or Rielly or any of our other young prospects of the Kadri ilk. If he does and he only gets Luongo back, he should be summarily dismissed after what he stated in yesterday's presser.

Now again as I tried to say last night before a poster tried to hijack the thread, it makes no sense or adds any value for Gillis to take Connolly, Bozak(though I think he's quite good, just not enough to seal a deal for Lu), Lombardi, 3rd rd picks, and other fillers to bring Luongo to Toronto, or to move Gillis to make the deal.

So who else in Toronto can we part with that would not destroy our promising prospects cupboard we painfully watched grow the past 4 years.

What would make this deal happen, that wouldn't kill this franchise, there's an obvious fit I posted last night and it may work.

Clue: A #2C on this roster.

For most GM's in the NHL, if not all, a #2C for a #1 allstar Goalie is a good trade off.

It's about Luongo's long term deal that sours me. He's 33, it's certainly possible he'll play past 38 but how many goalies played well beyond that? That's alot of coin that could hamper us 5 years from now.

He'd be worth way more if he had 4 years left on his deal. Heck there would be 20 teams chomping at the bit. With his present deal the Nucks are forced to deal with us. They can't expect anything really we hold the cards. It will go to them having to buy him out.

 

[darrylsittler27]

One thing is for sure...

We can afford to tank with a strong draft and holes left in our lineup.My suggestion,let Gillis sweat it.If we don't get Luongo,big deal.Either Reimer rebounds,another goalie becomes available,Gillis breaks or we get a high pick in a strong draft.Way I see it,we can't lose unless we panic,which doesn't sound like Nonnis.

 

[p.l.f.]

i guess we'll just buy him out when he starts to suck
we can still do that right?

 

[JMcLeaf]

i guess we'll just buy him out when he starts to suck
we can still do that right?

Nope

At least I dont think we could

 

[Warden of the North]

i guess we'll just buy him out when he starts to suck
we can still do that right?

No one knows for sure, but the speculation is its the same as before.

Nope

At least I dont think we could

hmmm, maybe u cant. Could have swore I heard someone saying how its likely same as before. Regardless, we'll know by Sunday.

 

[TieClark]

i guess we'll just buy him out when he starts to suck
we can still do that right?

Yeah... except a third of his cap hit is on our cap for twice as long

 

[Confucius]

Yeah... except a third of his cap hit is on our cap for twice as long

and he has 9 years left. OMFG

 

[Rare Jewel]

we have something like 6 forwards coming off the books, plus Komisarek will be bought out, maybe Phaneuf too

We are going to have a ridiculous amount of cap room this offseason, and because of those compliance buyouts, there will be a lot of UFAs out there this year - and because supply will be high, and cap coming down, prices will never be better.

While I don't mind Luongo's price tag, his term is too much. I don't think we *need* him to maybe sorta try to squeek in this year if we have no chance of winning anything, and beyond this year he may become a burden down the road. Keep our heads on straight, do the right moves this offseason, and stay the course.


I don't think we should tank, though, we should try, but honestly....expect to finish dead last with our current roster

Not a chance.

 

[TieClark]

1. Tank.
2. Trade Joffrey Lupul, Cody Franson and Clarke MacArthur.
3. Draft Nathan MacKinnon, Elias Lindholm or Alexander Barkov.
4. Trade for Roberto Luongo at the draft (Kadri, Bozak)
5. Sign Corey Perry, Paul Ranger and David Clarkson.

Going into 2013/14...

Perry - MacKinnon - Kessel
JVR - Grabovski - Kulemin
Komarov - Colborne - Clarkson
Brown - McClement - Ashton

Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Ranger
Liles - Holzer
Kostka

Luongo
Reimer

How is a kid who looked terrible in the WJC supposed to be a 1st line center in the NHL next year?

 

[Clark4Ever]

Said it last night, Nonis is not trading Gardiner or Rielly or any of our other young prospects of the Kadri ilk. If he does and he only gets Luongo back, he should be summarily dismissed after what he stated in yesterday's presser.

Now again as I tried to say last night before a poster tried to hijack the thread, it makes no sense or adds any value for Gillis to take Connolly, Bozak(though I think he's quite good, just not enough to seal a deal for Lu), Lombardi, 3rd rd picks, and other fillers to bring Luongo to Toronto, or to move Gillis to make the deal.

So who else in Toronto can we part with that would not destroy our promising prospects cupboard we painfully watched grow the past 4 years.

What would make this deal happen, that wouldn't kill this franchise, there's an obvious fit I posted last night and it may work.

Clue: A #2C on this roster.

For most GM's in the NHL, if not all, a #2C for a #1 allstar Goalie is a good trade off.

Under normal circumstances, I would agree, but Luongo's contract situation changes the dynamics of an equitable transaction entirely. In that sense, Grabovski is still an overpayment in my opinion. He is one of our best players on a consistent basis, and he is entering the prime of his career.

 

[JMcLeaf]

No one knows for sure, but the speculation is its the same as before.



hmmm, maybe u cant. Could have swore I heard someone saying how its likely same as before. Regardless, we'll know by Sunday.

I'm honestly not sure. I always thought that you could only buyout players that you signed.

 

[4evaBlue]

Yeah... except a third of his cap hit is on our cap for twice as long

Aye, if he starts sucking 3 years from now, we could be stuck with a 14 year $1.8M cap hit.

That'll make us wish for the good old days when we only had Tucker on the cap at $1M for 6 years.

 

[Warden of the North]

I'm honestly not sure. I always thought that you could only buyout players that you signed.

Well see in a day or two if Gomez gets bought out

 

[4evaBlue]

Well see in a day or two if Gomez gets bought out

Teams won't be available for amnesty buyouts until the offseason. I don't see any circumstance under which the Habs buy Gomez out until then.

 

[Warden of the North]

Teams won't be available for amnesty buyouts until the offseason. I don't see any circumstance under which the Habs buy Gomez out until then.

Ahhhh yes. My mistake. Keep forgetting that

 

[p.l.f.]

2 million a yr for 14yrs to pay out Lu isnt so bad
we could make him the goalie coach before then

 

[pooleboy]

How is a kid who looked terrible in the WJC supposed to be a 1st line center in the NHL next year?

lmao, so unaware........wow hf

 

[TieClark]

lmao, so unaware........wow hf

I'm not unaware of anything. I'm just not someone who simply buys into the hype machine that is the draft year in and year out. I'm not saying Mackinnon won't be a great player despite a poor WJC, or that Drouin will be better or worse, or anything other than the fact that how can you expect a kid who played poorly in a tournament with his best peers to jump into that large of a role immediately in the NHL?