Lucas Raymond

[19 for president]

It's always funny when people bring up intent in regards to players that attempt big hits all the time and inevitably hit players in the head and could seriously f*** up their career.

No on thinks these guys are intending to do this shit. If you keep hitting people in the head I don't care about your intent. You are an irresponsible hitter and not the one who gets the consequences from your well intended actions.

Zadorov's hit was not clean (nor was it malicious or dirty). It was a shitty hit. It was straight to Raymond's head. It was not late, it was a well timed hit, it was just a terrible angle and he only hit someone in the head.
Raymond admiring his pass didn't put his head in a different path, Zadorov's shitty path put his shoulder into his head.

It wasn't clean. He was suspended for 2 and ~2/3s of a game for it.

I agree with this. I don't think he was intentionally headhunting but I do think it was a lousy hit and he deserved the major.

If you are going to check people then you have to be responsible for how you hit them. Much like how you have to be responsible for your stick on the ice. If you hit someone with a high stick you get a penalty. Your intention may be good, like with Hronek trying to knock down the puck and swatting Larkin instead, but you still are ultimately in control. It may be an accident but there are still consequences.

No need for additional retaliation, but the suspension was appropriate.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Anyone think of the movie Platoon with the way Ray went down from that hit?

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Anyone think of the movie Platoon with the way Ray went down from that hit?

 

[14ari13]

I think Raymond drew a 5 min penalty vs nucks.
3 times 2 min vs Oilers.
And 2 min vs nucks.

Is this correct?

If so very impressive.

 

[14ari13]

Raymond has been our best player last 5 games

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Raymond has been our best player last 5 games

Raymond is coming into his own. The mass he has gained and getting experience with Kane is transforming his game.

I'm starting to see some real power moves from him, and he's also starting to lay some hits.

I thought his career high would be 75-80 points but now I'm wondering if he can be a career PPG guy.

 

[14ari13]

Raymond is coming into his own. The mass he has gained and getting experience with Kane is transforming his game.

I'm starting to see some real power moves from him, and he's also starting to lay some hits.

I thought his career high would be 75-80 points but now I'm wondering if he can be a career PPG guy.

It is a bit sad the posters on this board don't see how goood/great he has been. The kid has made a huge step forward

 

[Filppula]

It is a bit sad the posters on this board don't see how goood/great he has been. The kid has made a huge step forward

I’ve always been a bit of a Raymond skeptic, and I didn’t really like his opening to the season. But man, he’s totally coming into his own now. He’s improving and gaining confidence every single night. You can see how much he believes in himself, his body, the work he’s put in. Dangerous every shift now.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

I’ve always been a bit of a Raymond skeptic, and I didn’t really like his opening to the season. But man, he’s totally coming into his own now. He’s improving and gaining confidence every single night. You can see how much he believes in himself, his body, the work he’s put in. Dangerous every shift now.

That goal against Calgary was a thing of beauty. Granted, Calgary kind of let it happen, but it takes balls to attempt that.

 

[lilidk]

Hope we sign him long term

 

[Gniwder]

Raymond is coming into his own. The mass he has gained and getting experience with Kane is transforming his game.

I'm starting to see some real power moves from him, and he's also starting to lay some hits.

I thought his career high would be 75-80 points but now I'm wondering if he can be a career PPG guy.

I said all along that he needed to bulk up, and he added 15 lbs over the summer. I think he needs a few more pounds to be that PPG player. I hope Kasper and Mazur are paying attention.

 

[wingerdinger]

He's got a bulldog attitude reminds me of Alfredsson. I've liked his game a lot more than Seiders this season.

 

[Oddbob]

I said all along that he needed to bulk up, and he added 15 lbs over the summer. I think he needs a few more pounds to be that PPG player. I hope Kasper and Mazur are paying attention.

Weight doesn't equate to pts like that, hehe. Like if he gains 50 pounds is he getting 50 more pts? If so, then send him loads of Haagen Daz.

 

[Gniwder]

Weight doesn't equate to pts like that, hehe. Like if he gains 50 pounds is he getting 50 more pts? If so, then send him loads of Haagen Daz.

Strength mean she can go places where he couldn't before, win puck battles, not get knocked off the puck, or shy away from hits. He's so much obviously better after bulking up 15lbs, if you can't see that, it's not even worth arguing with you.

We're talking about 15 lbs of muscle, not fat. We're talking about athletes, not your personal life. (And TBH, mine, lol. I'm gaining fat for sure.)

 

[Oddbob]

Strength mean she can go places where he couldn't before, win puck battles, not get knocked off the puck, or shy away from hits. He's so much obviously better after bulking up 15lbs, if you can't see that, it's not even worth arguing with you.

We're talking about 15 lbs of muscle, not fat. We're talking about athletes, not your personal life. (And TBH, mine, lol. I'm gaining fat for sure.)

Wasn't arguing against him being better, more that you like to point out weight a lot and if he keeps gaining weight he might not get a lot better, cause that could also affect his skating speed. Was more half joking than anything.

Also, is he a he/she, as you mentioned she and he in the same sentence! Hehe!

 

[Gniwder]

Wasn't arguing against him being better, more that you like to point out weight a lot and if he keeps gaining weight he might not get a lot better, cause that could also affect his skating speed. Was more half joking than anything.

Also, is he a he/she, as you mentioned she and he in the same sentence! Hehe!

I think it was political autocorrect, lol. No idea what happened there.

Anyways, strength training for hockey players isn't about bench presses and curls. It's proportionate to the need. I'm all lower body because I was a skier, and I can tell you all of it contributed to better speed. Hockey player obviously need some upper body strength, but lower body is leverage. Just look at Auston Pornstache.

He's listed at 6'3" 215 lbs. Obviously he's not working on curls, bench presses, and military presses. He's not bulking for show, I think he makes a little more money than the bouncer at your local bar.

 

[Oddbob]

I think it was political autocorrect, lol. No idea what happened there.

Anyways, strength training for hockey players isn't about bench presses and curls. It's proportionate to the need. I'm all lower body because I was a skier, and I can tell you all of it contributed to better speed. Hockey player obviously need some upper body strength, but lower body is leverage. Just look at Auston Pornstache.

He's listed at 6'3" 215 lbs. Obviously he's not working on curls, bench presses, and military presses. He's not bulking for show, I think he makes a little more money than the bouncer at your local bar.

I see he isn't working out his shorts game though!

 

[norrisnick]

Interesting that McDavid is rocking an ASU shirt. The players must sure hate playing in that arena...

 

[Gniwder]

Interesting that McDavid is rocking an ASU shirt. The players must sure hate playing in that arena...

Probably borrowed it from Auston who's from that area

 

[14ari13]

Goal and assist.

 

[14ari13]

19 points in last 20 games and 12 in last 10. This is getting close to impressive.

 

[schuelma24]

almost to a 70 point pace. looking good.

 

[14ari13]

Another great game by Raymond.
He has made the next step

 

[14ari13]

2 assists

 

[Chelis Chili]