GDT: Low Effort GDT edition: 2021-22 season game 28 LA Kings vs Florida Panthers @4:00pm 12/16/21

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Kaliyev has been extra bad the past couple games, but he's quietly scoring at a near 20 goal pace.

Iafallo hasn't had much jump lately.

Arvidsson has been getting on my nerves the last few games. Low effort away from the puck.
RV had Danault wide open twice but had his shooter blinders on.
 
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The one constant for the Kings this season has been Quick, who now has the fourth best SV% among goalies with at least 10 starts so far at .935, and has the sixth best GAA at 2.03.

If only he had a little bit more goal support. The Kings average 2.68 GF per game, which puts them at 24th in the league in goal scoring.
 
The one constant for the Kings this season has been Quick, who now has the fourth best SV% among goalies with at least 10 starts so far at .935, and has the sixth best GAA at 2.03.

If only he had a little bit more goal support. The Kings average 2.68 GF per game, which puts them at 24th in the league in goal scoring.
It’s great to see JQ properly fit and healthy and it’s absolutely right to see TM ride the hot hand. I’m not using Quick’s play as a stick with which to beat Petersen though as he’s pretty much at Vezina level right now. Petersen will need to get in a run of games which is what he needs to find his best form. His play for a large part of last season was very good and I have little doubt that he will get his best game back. Pretty much nobody in the league is taking the net away from Quick atm.
 
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Kaliyev has been extra bad the past couple games, but he's quietly scoring at a near 20 goal pace.
I tell you what though he’s definitely rounding his game out and quickly. He’s also much stronger looking on his skates, is moving better and looks a touch quicker to me… the kid is a sponge. By keeping him in a lesser role it’s allowing him to develop with too much pressure and expectations, allowing his scoring to be a bonus. The CC situation in Montreal is how you don’t want to do it, it’s already a case of if he’s not scoring he’s not helping.
 
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The one constant for the Kings this season has been Quick, who now has the fourth best SV% among goalies with at least 10 starts so far at .935, and has the sixth best GAA at 2.03.

If only he had a little bit more goal support. The Kings average 2.68 GF per game, which puts them at 24th in the league in goal scoring.

Quick is one case where traditional stats and analytics line up:

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Kaliyev has been extra bad the past couple games, but he's quietly scoring at a near 20 goal pace.

Iafallo hasn't had much jump lately.

Arvidsson has been getting on my nerves the last few games. Low effort away from the puck.
do you have anything positive to say or just focusing on the negatives .. haha its christmas bro be happy
 
Say what you want about Brown but he cracks me up…

From LAKInsider: It was just chipped out, it was a foot race, a puck battle against their defensemen and I won that one and kind of knifed through them. I’m not exactly sure, I haven’t seen it yet. Maybe I blacked out.
 
Say what you want about Brown but he cracks me up…

From LAKInsider: It was just chipped out, it was a foot race, a puck battle against their defensemen and I won that one and kind of knifed through them. I’m not exactly sure, I haven’t seen it yet. Maybe I blacked out.

I've been quieter lately as a Brown apologist because I do see how many steps he's lost, but god dammit we're all gonna miss that guy when he hangs them up. Him losing the C was honestly worse for me than our past few losing seasons.
 
I've been quieter lately as a Brown apologist because I do see how many steps he's lost, but god dammit we're all gonna miss that guy when he hangs them up. Him losing the C was honestly worse for me than our past few losing seasons.
I think we can collectively agree that stripping Brownie of the C was one of the worst moves in LA Kings history. I love Kopi but Brown was a force in the room.
 
I think we can collectively agree that stripping Brownie of the C was one of the worst moves in LA Kings history. I love Kopi but Brown was a force in the room.

No, it made zero difference. Brown never was a leader. There is a lot of love here for that guy, but when your GM correctly identifies a lack of leadership and makes it a priority to fix via trade and free agency to augment the lack of it in the current room - AND it results in two Cups - there is simply no need to romanticize the past.

The "C" has just been a decoration here since Norstrom left.
 
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I'll just leave this here....


Some guys just have the goal scoring touch. Generally, it comes from not just ripping a slap shot when you get the puck in that kind of situation. You have to keep your head up, look where there is open net, look at what is in front of you and the net to make sure your shot is going to get through and then be accurate with the shot. Some guys who make to the NHL can't process those steps in the less than a a second you have to execute it.
 
No, it made zero difference. Brown never was a leader. There is a lot of love here for that guy, but when your GM correctly identifies a lack of leadership and makes it a priority to fix via trade and free agency to augment the lack of it in the current room - AND it results in two Cups - there is simply no need to romanticize the past.

The "C" has just been a decoration here since Norstrom left.
Preach
 
Some guys just have the goal scoring touch. Generally, it comes from not just ripping a slap shot when you get the puck in that kind of situation. You have to keep your head up, look where there is open net, look at what is in front of you and the net to make sure your shot is going to get through and then be accurate with the shot. Some guys who make to the NHL can't process those steps in the less than a a second you have to execute it.

Watching his release in slow mo from multiple angles is just gross. You would have to read it as he's pulling it cross body a bit then suddenly he just whips it to the same side with force. That's pretty much unstoppable unless you sell out on the prayer that he's going low stick side.
 
No, it made zero difference. Brown never was a leader. There is a lot of love here for that guy, but when your GM correctly identifies a lack of leadership and makes it a priority to fix via trade and free agency to augment the lack of it in the current room - AND it results in two Cups - there is simply no need to romanticize the past.

The "C" has just been a decoration here since Norstrom left.

There were definitely "better" leaders than Brown through the cup years. Williams, Richards, Mitchell, and Greene are the first that come to mind. But stripping Brown of the C and keeping him on the team was just so wild.

With that said, there's been a lot of talk about hating on Brown, and I think it's a little unfair. I think pretty much everyone here loves Brown and recognizes all the amazing things he's done for this organization, and are also able to recognize and appreciate when he makes stellar plays (like he did last night), while also thinking that he should be getting a lot less playing time than he's currently getting.

Brown's the 10th-oldest player in the league. Hard to believe but it's true. Zdeno Chara, Joe Thornton, Andy Greene, Jason Spezza, Duncan Keith, Mark Giordano, Joe Pavelski, Zach Parise, Nate Thompson, Dustin Brown. Excluding defensemen, only Pavelski is getting more time on ice per game (and only 15 seconds more at that). Slight difference there though — Pavelski has 9 goals and 21 points in 26 games, while Brown has goals and 11 points in 28 games.

Brown is such a polarizing player this year. I think there's some middle ground to be found among us fans. I think his apologists just want some recognition for all of his accomplishments and everything he's given to the organization, and his critics want to reduce his workload and give some other players a chance. And @Ray Martyniuk wants him to see the guillotine, but hey, we can't always get what we want.
 
Some guys just have the goal scoring touch. Generally, it comes from not just ripping a slap shot when you get the puck in that kind of situation. You have to keep your head up, look where there is open net, look at what is in front of you and the net to make sure your shot is going to get through and then be accurate with the shot. Some guys who make it to the NHL can't process those steps in the less than the second of time you have to execute it.
Dupe
 
There were definitely "better" leaders than Brown through the cup years. Williams, Richards, Mitchell, and Greene are the first that come to mind. But stripping Brown of the C and keeping him on the team was just so wild.

With that said, there's been a lot of talk about hating on Brown, and I think it's a little unfair. I think pretty much everyone here loves Brown and recognizes all the amazing things he's done for this organization, and are also able to recognize and appreciate when he makes stellar plays (like he did last night), while also thinking that he should be getting a lot less playing time than he's currently getting.

Brown's the 10th-oldest player in the league. Hard to believe but it's true. Zdeno Chara, Joe Thornton, Andy Greene, Jason Spezza, Duncan Keith, Mark Giordano, Joe Pavelski, Zach Parise, Nate Thompson, Dustin Brown. Excluding defensemen, only Pavelski is getting more time on ice per game (and only 15 seconds more at that). Slight difference there though — Pavelski has 9 goals and 21 points in 26 games, while Brown has goals and 11 points in 28 games.

Brown is such a polarizing player this year. I think there's some middle ground to be found among us fans. I think his apologists just want some recognition for all of his accomplishments and everything he's given to the organization, and his critics want to reduce his workload and give some other players a chance. And @Ray Martyniuk wants him to see the guillotine, but hey, we can't always get what we want.

Yeah, and disagreeing with those who are huge fans somehow labels you as a hater.

I will fully admit that I am not now nor have I ever been a "fan" of Brown's. He was a diver, an embellisher, never stood up for himself or his teammates - the Malkin incident in particular was just about everything I can't stand about him in a nutshell. He has always been a coward who took reckless runs at opponents then hid on the bench. For everyone who says that Sutter just "hated" him, that's what they seem to forget. Sutter has an old school mentality and Brown was a new school fool. No wonder he didn't want him to represent his team. He has never shown the proper respect for the game despite playing fully on its edges.

And let's not forget that he was "captain" of a team totally devoid of leadership that was dead in the water and had quit on Terry Murray. This was a team that had also lost two winnable playoff series, one without Anze of course.

Brown had to be all but traded to find his game. What kind of example is that setting?

Then he pouted for years when taken off the top line, even when it was clearly best for the team. Once Sutter left he found his A game again, then one year later was part of a veteran "leadership" group that actively quit on yet another coach.

All in all, I cannot wait for the day that he no longer plays for the LA Kings. They will be much, much, much better off without him.
 
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Durzi has been the real surprize of the season. Heads up plays with pose, if he gets better, stronger\bigger he'll be a nice add to the back 6.
I'm absolutely floored at how good he's been. There were long stretches in Ontario where he looked absolutely clueless in his own end
 

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