London Knights 2023 - 24 Season Thread (Part Three)

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RangerNation

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Sadly if Lawrence shows poorly tonight, we will have to endure the social media sports experts.

Give the kid 4 games. I think he brings a different skilset. No, he wont match foot speed of the team in general, but lets see anyone take a puck away from him on the wall.

Drop him in front of the net, nobody is going to move him.

All I ask is dont make assumptions on one game.
Hat trick or bust
 

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2 part trade. But going to happen cause London is trying to win but not go all in. Ando is a defensive stud. Helps Rangers this year and London next year when they truly go all in.
 
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LK players who have taken more the 200 faceoffs, sorted by # faceoffs taken:

Win% LastName
56.8% Lulien
50.0% Lawrence
50.7% O'Reilly
51.9% McCue
51.8% Nichol
52.2% Barkey
I am afraid your figures are not very accurate my friend, decent guessing but not accurate.

How many of those wins and losses were on special teams or in the last 2 0r 3 minutes of play, where face-off wins are of the most important ones to win. This is what GMs and scouts are looking for when they consider getting centermen
 

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I am afraid your figures are not very accurate my friend, decent guessing but not accurate.

How many of those wins and losses were on special teams or in the last 2 0r 3 minutes of play, where face-off wins are of the most important ones to win. This is what GMs and scouts are looking for when they consider getting centermen
My friend, those are not my figures and no guessing was involved. They are straight from the OHL website. If you think they are not very accurate, please explain why.

As for winning pressure draws, I agree absolutely important. Please share those numbers with the rest of us, tyvm.
 

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My friend, those are not my figures and no guessing was involved. They are straight from the OHL website. If you think they are not very accurate, please explain why.

As for winning pressure draws, I agree absolutely important. Please share those numbers with the rest of us, tyvm.
My friend, would you send me the address page, so I can study them for myself, thank you
 

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Sadly if Lawrence shows poorly tonight, we will have to endure the social media sports experts.

Give the kid 4 games. I think he brings a different skilset. No, he wont match foot speed of the team in general, but lets see anyone take a puck away from him on the wall.

Drop him in front of the net, nobody is going to move him.

All I ask is dont make assumptions on one game.
He will have a bullseye on his back from those tripping over their bottom lip now. As mentioned before, I view his acquisition as nothing more than extending a courtesy to a veteran player to allow him to finish his career on the ice as opposed to being released.
 

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london may have one more in them afterall. going back to an old friend. not sure that they are the team to beat or will go all that hard after the kid.
 
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After reviewing the OHL website. It does not show us how many face-offs won in the last 3 minutes of a game and on specialty units wins, that is the reason GM and scouts go themselves on sites to see players play. Seeing the site face-offs wins and losses, Lawrence with only 30 games in and 468 attempts is second on the team right now with 234 wins to Julien's 37 games 502 attempts and 285 wins. It does not give us how well each are doing on the very important on most needing to win face-offs. I am liking what I am seeing of Lawrence so far with only the few numbers we have.
 

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If we refuse to move our 04s then we should really add. Our nucleus is really good. We may as well aim to compete with the Saginaw and kitcheners
 
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dino200022

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I am not too sure why everyone is itching their jock straps so much for a trade. Everyone cried last year when nothing huge was done and we ended up in the finals. We have a very solid lineup that has the potential to make just as good of a run as last year. Our young players are all getting better by the game, we have a goalie who can steal a game or two and if their is no injuries a very good top 6 D core.

Let's have some faith in what we have in front of us, it s going to be a fun ride!
 

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I see a Ryan Black on the 1993-1994 London Knights Roster. Could this be the player? Played for Peterborough the 3 years prior?

 

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After reviewing the OHL website. It does not show us how many face-offs won in the last 3 minutes of a game and on specialty units wins, that is the reason GM and scouts go themselves on sites to see players play. Seeing the site face-offs wins and losses, Lawrence with only 30 games in and 468 attempts is second on the team right now with 234 wins to Julien's 37 games 502 attempts and 285 wins. It does not give us how well each are doing on the very important on most needing to win face-offs. I am liking what I am seeing of Lawrence so far with only the few numbers we have.

I don't know how you got fixated on Lawrence being brought in for his faceoff prowess. He had a 46.7% winning percentage last season and is only at 50% this season.

If your hypothesis is correct, and he is somehow much better at faceoffs in the last 3 minutes of a game, that means he's even worse the rest of the game (that's how percentages work). How would you explain that? He doesn't care to try on faceoffs the rest of the game? Saving his strength for crunch time?

McCue and Barkey both are regulars on this team that play on the PK already and have better faceoff percentages than Lawrence and are the same handedness. Crunch time faceoffs go to them. Right handed faceoffs are a bit of an issue but even O'Rielly has a better faceoff percentage than Lawrence.

Listen. I don't have anything against acquiring Kaleb Lawrence for the price that Mark Hunter did. He should be a nice complimentary piece in the bottom six to create space for players like Nicholl and Van Gorp, but he should not be displacing anyone in the top 6--or playing centre on this team. He's very much a straight-line, physical player who would be a good trigger man for more skilled players, like Haltunnen with Barkey and Cowan (hence the Nicholl and Van Gorp suggestion).
 

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I'm somewhat surprised that the Knights allowed E mack to just retire as a Knight. What I expected to happen was for Mark to dangle him as trade bait in a potential deal with the Rangers. They were actively seeking an experienced d-man, at a bargain cost. They do have a bit of history in trading for less than sound players.;) The name Paxton still has a very dull ring to some Ranger fans. :naughty:
 
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