Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[Tyson]

All we know is he is a great skater and has a very good shot. Way too little sample size to say anything definitive

6'3 and over 200 pounds RD that skates like the wind and already possess an NHL shot.
All he needs is proper development and time. He has to stay healthy next season.
In his 12 game stint this past season he showed signs of being able to control games.
Raw prospect that should intrigue all Habs fans.

 

[Habs Halifax]

6'3 and over 200 pounds RD that skates like the wind and already possess an NHL shot.
All he needs is proper development and time. He has to stay healthy next season.
In his 12 game stint this past season he showed signs of being able to control games.
Raw prospect that should intrigue all Habs fans.

Agreed. Our fan base is hesitant to be happy with prospects due to our past failures and it's worse with Mailloux cause of his "mistake".

He's got tools you just don't see too often. No idea where he ends up but in the small sample size we seen, he looks like a good one and you're not wrong... development will be important... especially when he turns pro.

 

[WeThreeKings]

He needs leagues of development defensively and the hockey IQ has been suspect in every zone but the offensive zone.

So yeah he has a couple intriguing tools but cart is being put way too far ahead of the horse.

 

[Tyson]

Agreed. Our fan base is hesitant to be happy with prospects due to our past failures and it's worse with Mailloux cause of his "mistake".

He's got tools you just don't see too often. No idea where he ends up but in the small sample size we seen, he looks like a good one and you're not wrong... development will be important... especially when he turns pro.

With all the criticism Bergevin got for drafting him there were many GM's ready to pick him in the 2nd round.

 

[Wats]

All we know is he is a great skater and has a very good shot. Way too little sample size to say anything definitive

Disagree, not saying he wont be good but there's nothing suggesting his ceiling is that high. There's not even any scouting reports that suggest he'd be a legitimate top pairing all round D.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Shoulder injury and might be operated. 4 to 6 months absence if he is.....lol

Dumb pick then. Even dumber now. Remains to be seen how dumb it will be in the future. But there will be some very good players that were chosen after him....geez.

I recall him asking teams to pass on him this year over the things he did and Montreal took him in the 1st. was extremely dumb because I think most teams would have passed on him chances are he would have been there in the 3rd or 4th.
All teams make mistakes, weather he does good or bad moving forward just look to the future dont let the past get to you too much
If u want to feel better you can check out my Leafs trading up for Tyler Biggs and then also selecting Stuart Percy in the 1st round too I believe one of the picks they traded for Biggs ended up being John Gibson lol

 

[Schooner Guy]

All we know is he is a great skater and has a very good shot. Way too little sample size to say anything definitive

Good vision and very crisp passer as well. Some of his passes almost knocked the sticks out of his junior aged teammates hands. He's a long term project.

 

[lamp9post]

We still have next season to better evaluate the player. If he doesn't prove worthy of a contract, I'd have no problem letting him go and taking the compensatory 2nd round pick. Depending on his season, the 2nd might even be the more valuable asset. Time will tell.

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

His next junior season, should tell all, hopefully he won't get injured again.

 

[Indca]

We still have next season to better evaluate the player. If he doesn't prove worthy of a contract, I'd have no problem letting him go and taking the compensatory 2nd round pick. Depending on his season, the 2nd might even be the more valuable asset. Time will tell.

Is the 2nd round compensation pick in 2023 or 2024 draft?

 

[cphabs]

If a guy can become judge in the American Supreme Court after having behaved badly towards a young woman when he was young, Mailloux can certainly play at the NHL level with no problem.

Which one?

 

[cphabs]

I pretty much agree with this.

But, Mailloux did do something very wrong. It doesn't mean I have something against him for life. But, as an organization, both for his development and for the PR of the organization, I am both monitoring and fostering his maturation process. This "one incident" may be the tip of the iceberg. In fact it could be a blessing in disguise, causing interventions to assure he matures, which he wouldn't otherwise have gotten. I've seen other highly touted prospects fade into obscurity due to a lack of maturity, drugs and alcohol, excess, etc...

Tip of the iceberg? There is absolutely no evidence other than an adult performing on an a minor while being recorded. Stupid mistake? Yes on both parts.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Disagree, not saying he wont be good but there's nothing suggesting his ceiling is that high. There's not even any scouting reports that suggest he'd be a legitimate top pairing all round D.

We can't say anything definitive. The sample size is just too small.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We still have next season to better evaluate the player. If he doesn't prove worthy of a contract, I'd have no problem letting him go and taking the compensatory 2nd round pick. Depending on his season, the 2nd might even be the more valuable asset. Time will tell.

9 pts with 3 goals in 12 OHL games and you're talking about a 2nd rounder already if we don't offer him a contract after next season? A bit premature don't you think? It seems like you are expecting him to disappoint? Pretty sure he puts up .5 pts/game as a D man for his age 19 season where he passes the eye test. That will earn him a contract. You don't give up on a guy with his size, skating, and shot.

I have a a hard time believing that in he won't do well and not be offered a contract. Imagine letting him go where someone else signs him and he develops while we take the 2nd rounder and miss. Low probability that the 2nd rounder is worth more than Mailloux after next season.

 

[Habs Halifax]

With all the criticism Bergevin got for drafting him there were many GM's ready to pick him in the 2nd round.

Yup! If Hughes and Gorton drafted him, it would not be as much turbulence. Wait for it... someone is going to reply and say "there is no way HuGO would have drafted him".

 

[Wats]

With all the criticism Bergevin got for drafting him there were many GM's ready to pick him in the 2nd round.

From what we heard after Montreal drafted him. Who really knows how low he'd have gone, even Mitchell Miller had GMs ready to draft him.

Yup! If Hughes and Gorton drafted him, it would not be as much turbulence. Wait for it... someone is going to reply and say "there is no way HuGO would have drafted him".

We haven't even seen how they'd draft to even make that assumption. However, if they did draft Mailloux, it's very naïve to assume there would not be as much 'turbulence' in this era. When Bergevin hired Therrien to be head coach, messed around with Subban's contract, signed Prust/Boullion, etc he lost a lot of what he had in his honeymoon phase. This sentiment that Mailloux was supposed to go so much higher/teams were ready to pick him is pretty baseless. He went higher than he was consensually ranked prior to the story leaking and him telling teams to not draft him.

For now, HuGo haven't done anything to lose it...yet. They mess around at the draft, you'll have your turbulence. If you truly believe that Bergevin is somehow special in terms of getting hate, you have forgotten how other Habs GMs were regarded/hated on like Gainey/Gauthier.

 

[WinterLion]

Needs a healthy season, but he looked very good this year in the small sample.

 

[NotProkofievian]

He needs leagues of development defensively and the hockey IQ has been suspect in every zone but the offensive zone.

So yeah he has a couple intriguing tools but cart is being put way too far ahead of the horse.

Looks like Martin Madden Jr. outdrafted us again. He can't keep getting away with it!

 

[Wats]

Looks like Martin Madden Jr. outdrafted us again. He can't keep getting away with it!

Yeah if Zellweger continues his trajectory going to be painful looking back.

 

[schwang26]

He was the youngest guy on SK Lejon. Most of the other guys were early 20s.

Ok, but it's still a group of young guys. Men stop maturing around age 16!

 

[lamp9post]

9 pts with 3 goals in 12 OHL games and you're talking about a 2nd rounder already if we don't offer him a contract after next season? A bit premature don't you think? It seems like you are expecting him to disappoint? Pretty sure he puts up .5 pts/game as a D man for his age 19 season where he passes the eye test. That will earn him a contract. You don't give up on a guy with his size, skating, and shot.

I have a a hard time believing that in he won't do well and not be offered a contract. Imagine letting him go where someone else signs him and he develops while we take the 2nd rounder and miss. Low probability that the 2nd rounder is worth more than Mailloux after next season.

I think you're making a lot of assumptions with my post. All I said is that we have another year to evaluate him and the option to not sign him and take a compensatory pick exists. In your post above, you basically make the same point I was getting at:

We can't say anything definitive. The sample size is just too small.

 

[JoelWarlord]

I find it curious that Mailloux's small sample size of games played means you can't consider taking the compensation pick yet...because of what he showed in that small sample? That's pretty contradictory to me, if you want to say the flashes he showed are enough that you don't want to take a 2nd round compensation pick that's fine, but "we don't know enough to consider taking the comp pick" is a poor justification, given that by the same standard we also don't know enough to consider signing him and forgoing the comp pick right now.

We're all projecting off a small sample, and it's perfectly reasonable for someone to project and say they lean towards taking the compensation pick right now. The small sample showed he's a great skater and shooter with strong offensive instincts, but it also showed a lost puppy in his own zone playing a Bantam level game positionally.

For the record my own opinion is that he's a very interesting prospect with rare and intriguing tools, so outside of an unexpectedly and egregiously poor season I would be penciling him in as a guy to sign some time during the 22-23 season.

 

[26Mats]

Tip of the iceberg? There is absolutely no evidence other than an adult performing on an a minor while being recorded. Stupid mistake? Yes on both parts.

There is no evidence either way, hence I said COULD BE.

 

[Habs13]

If teams had passed on him, as he asked them to do last year - where do you guys think he would rank in this draft?

 

[montreal]

Is the 2nd round compensation pick in 2023 or 2024 draft?

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