Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[WeThreeKings]

Unless Logan slips up again, does something incredibly stupid & alienates teammates and coaches - or just flat out sucks next season.. they are signing him.

You can count on one finger the amount of people in this thread since his last OHL game this year that have brought up what he did to not sign him; everything has been just an echo chamber of people saying he should be forgiven and shaking their fist at some imaginary entity on this board that is still dragging on the kid for it.

 

[Nedved]

Excited to see him at camp this fall. Let's see how he looks against our other top prospects. I'm hoping to see a lot of intelligence in his own end, quick first pass, and creates a lot of turnovers for a quick transition. I think he has a lot of tools, I'm hoping the growth comes over the next couple of seasons.

 

[MXD]

Alright, alright, alright.

Didn't that just precede "I love high school girls. I get older; They stay the same age".

In which case, a bit of a odd.. placing. lol

 

[abo9]

All we have on the right side are Barron and Mailloux. Almost every NHL organization is in need of depth at RD so I'd hate to lose a RD with Mailloux's tools for a 2nd round compensatory pick or whatever it would be.

On the encouraging side, Hughes mentioned last week that he wants to begin integrating Mailloux with other Habs prospects. He'll likely be at Habs development camp after the draft.

Yeah idk, a LOT can happen in a few years. If Mailloux looks like an A-grade prospect, of course they'll keep him (or trade him for better assets than 2nd rounder).

But the reality is that he's played 31 hockey games in 2 seasons - 19 of them in the 3rd division league in Sweden. Not sure how it will affect his development.

And it's gonna be tough to evaluate, since he should be dominant next season in the OHL just based on his age - irrespective of talent or potential.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

How he interacted with his teammates is what got him in trouble in the first place.

I honestly think a major failure in this whole situation that doesn’t get talked about is the lack of leadership from his teammates. You had a 17 year old kid alone in Europe trying to impress a bunch of adults. Not only did they not show any guidance, they made the situation worse by publicly sharing it embarrassing the girl publicly.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

And it's gonna be tough to evaluate, since he should be dominant next season in the OHL just based on his age - irrespective of talent or potential.

If Mailloux is dominant in the OHL next year it's because of his talent, not his age. Age usually means experience, but that's not something Mailloux has.
Most players in the CHL have played at least 2 full seasons before their d+2 year. Mailloux has only played 16 ohl games in his career.

In comparison, Guhle had played 162 ohl games before his D+2 year.

 

[1909]

If Mailloux is dominant in the OHL next year it's because of his talent, not his age.
Most players in the CHL have played at least 2 full seasons before their d+2 year. Mailloux has only played 16 ohl games in his career. Experience is a big factor that lets a player dominate a junior league and Mailloux doesn't have it.

In comparison, Guhle had played 162 ohl games before his D+2 year.

That's the problem with Mailloux. He lost way too many games to develop properly. The kid gonna need another full OHL season + at least two more years at AHL to reach his potential.

 

[salbutera]

That's the problem with Mailloux. He lost way too many games to develop properly. The kid gonna need another full OHL season + at least two more years at AHL to reach his potential.

Who knows? Development is rarely ever linear - it’s all going to come down to hunger + work ethic, because natural high end skill is very clearly there to build upon.

There’s never been any indication Mailloux lacks either hunger / drive or work ethic

 

[1909]

Who knows? Development is rarely ever linear - it’s all going to come down to hunger + work ethic, because natural high end skill is very clearly there to build upon.

There’s never been any indication Mailloux lacks either hunger / drive or work ethic

Must had been tough fo him to not play for half season when he was healthy to do so, and then being injured (in a fight) after having played only a dozen games. + all the pressure from his misbehaviour in Sweden. If he comes out strong from all of this, Habs gonna have a good player.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

That's the problem with Mailloux. He lost way too many games to develop properly. The kid gonna need another full OHL season + at least two more years at AHL to reach his potential.

Gretzky always said development happens at practice. As long as he was on the ice, he’ll be fine.

 

[Naslundforever]

Unless Logan slips up again, does something incredibly stupid & alienates teammates and coaches - or just flat out sucks next season.. they are signing him.
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You can count on one finger the amount of people in this thread since his last OHL game this year that have brought up what he did to not sign him; everything has been just an echo chamber of people saying he should be forgiven and shaking their fist at some imaginary entity on this board that is still dragging on the kid for it.

I think so too. I read negative comments about how big a deal the habs are making this but Mailloux has everything to gain from it. Drive the message publicly he and the team have left nothing unresolved (because it‘s true and not just pr) until he’s on the club, and everyone can move on.

He surely needs plenty of icetime in jr anyway with how little he’s played and his time will come, we have so few rd’s. With what‘s hapenning with hockey canada it would be a mistake for the habs to act as though they are brushing the issue under the rug.

 

[1909]

Gretzky always said development happens at practice. As long as he was on the ice, he’ll be fine.

But at some point you have to play "real" games.

I think so too. I read negative comments about how big a deal the habs are making this but Mailloux has everything to gain from it. Drive the message publicly he and the team have left nothing unresolved (because it‘s true and not just pr) until he’s on the club, and everyone can move on.

He surely needs plenty of icetime in jr anyway with how little he’s played and his time will come, we have so few rd’s. With what‘s hapenning with hockey canada it would be a mistake for the habs to act as though they are brushing the issue under the rug.

????? How can you compare Mailloux' case to the one of 8 anonymous bastards who raped a girl ?

 

[FF de Mars]

But at some point you have to play "real" games.

In soccer prospects practice with the team but don't play that much.

 

[BenchBrawl]

He has all the tools to become a Brent Burns.

 

[1909]

In soccer prospects practice with the team but don't play that much.

Hockey is a speed and physical game (hit and being hit). You need to play games to get into that rythm. It becomes a very dangerous environment if your body and mind are not ready for that.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Hockey is a speed and physical game (hit and being hit). You need to play games to get into that rythm. It becomes a very dangerous environment if your body and mind are not ready for that.

Mailloux is bigger than almost everybody. I'm not too worried about that. Plus he plays defense, not likely he'll get concussed from an open-ice hit.

 

[FF de Mars]

Hockey is a speed and physical game (hit and being hit). You need to play games to get into that rythm.

Soccer is speedy and physical too. At practice you develop your individual skills. At the gym you develop your strenght. In college and in Europe they don't play nearly as much. The Canadian model is a good one but not the only one. I'm not worried about Mailloux's lack of games and its impact on the rest of his career. I'll eat crow but I think he'll end up as good as prime Subban!

 

[1909]

Soccer is speedy and physical too. At practice you develop your individual skills. At the gym you develop your strenght. In college and in Europe they don't play nearly as much. The Canadian model is a good one but not the only one. I'm not worried about Mailloux's lack of games and its impact on the rest of his career. I'll eat crow but I think he'll end up as good as prime Subban!

Nothing really is forecasting that for the moment. Let him play a full OHL season, and make a judgment after that. Way too early to speculate that he will ever reach that level.

 

[salbutera]

Hockey is a speed and physical game (hit and being hit). You need to play games to get into that rythm. It becomes a very dangerous environment if your body and mind are not ready for that.

Playing games is necessary yes… but I don’t agree it’s all about games.

What has made the US development program so great over the last 20-years and second only to OHL, which they’re about to overtake if they haven’t already, is the focus on skill & practices.

USNTDP (including prep schools), and NCAA don’t play anywhere near the games they do in juniors, midget, or even Pee Wee in Canada, but they practice a helluva lot more with tremendous focus on skills.

I watch my kids practice 4, 5 times per week, it’s mind blowing the focus on skill.

 

[1909]

Playing games is necessary yes… but I don’t agree it’s all about games.

What has made the US development program so great over the last 20-years and second only to OHL, which they’re about to overtake if they haven’t already is the focus on skill & practices.

USNTDP (including prep schools), and NCAA don’t play anywhere near the games they do in juniors, midget, or even Pee Wee in Canada, but they practice a helluva lot more with tremendous focus on skills.

Thre is a difference about playing two games a week... ad no game at all for a full season.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

He has all the tools to become a Brent Burns.

I'll eat crow but I think he'll end up as good as prime Subban!

...and if he does...

 

[FF de Mars]

Nothing really is forecasting that for the moment. Let him play a full OHL season, and make a judgment after that. Way too early to speculate that he will ever reach that level.

What do you mean by "nothing"? What about his tools? Sure he doesn't have the toolbox but that's exactly why I'm comparing him to Subban...

 

[Naslundforever]

But at some point you have to play "real" games.



????? How can you compare Mailloux' case to the one of 8 anonymous bastards who raped a girl ?

Hi, I am absolutely not (Really, guy?). Unless you missed the news, what is repremended to Hockey canada (which did not rape anyone, players did) is that they seem to have tried to bury the story.

Habs and Mailloux do good to really put forward they are doing the opposite.

 

[malcb33]

That's the problem with Mailloux. He lost way too many games to develop properly. The kid gonna need another full OHL season + at least two more years at AHL to reach his potential.

If Mailloux reaches his potential, waiting 3 years isn’t a problem. Many players develop slower, especially D, and if that’s what it takes for him to be the player he can be, I’d be happy to wait, rather than a player that comes in for a year or two then fizzles out

I know it’s early but it finally feels like progress is being made in the Habs development system, to the point where where prospects taking their time developing could be a good thing.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Sounds like there may be some consequences after all.