Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

[ChesterNimitz]

Commissioner is a graduate of law himself. Expect him to dot the i’s and cross the t’s, this is a rare case there was an actual dossier so he knows how to handle.. It has nothing to do with severity I don’t think, and I doubt there is anything to worry about. Law is cool that way, much less bs than pr meets corporate meets mob social norms. There is closure to it (so there will).

As for Mailloux; I’ll be watching the ahl this year for the 1st time ever on tv because of kids like him this year, I hope tv providers are less greedy than the broadcast mess the nhl has us in!

The law hates selectivity. If the NHL decides to excessively punish Mailloux in comparison to its history of leniency towards past transgressors, they are exposing themselves to potential judicial review and damages. Bettman knows this all too well. As long as Mailloux has not engaged in further offensive behaviour, he will be re-instated. Period. Now let's talk hockey.

 

[BLONG7]

I think this kid, is the real deal guys...............Bettman will do more tough talk, but surely the kid will be approved to play in the league, and then the habs have him in the AHL anyhow.

This kid has shown some skills....

 

[Rapala]

To me, to improve it isn't as hard as improving your offense.

I think we saw some of that post season last year. I mean making fewer dumb decisions already improves the D side. A player like him just has to learn not to run around so much and trust the other players around him. That actually becomes easier to do as the talent quotient and experienced players around you get better.

 

[Licou]

Public Opinion has become so magnified with the advancements in the technology and social media more and more people have access to handheld devices. Most of that wall of shame would likely get a lifetime ban in this day and age because of public outcry. Many of whom are not even hockey fans.

It's a tough subject to debate in a calm manner for sure.

On one hand, I personally believe that exposing these kinds of behaviours aa unacceptable is a good thing.

On the other hand, I firmly think that due process and the rule of law should be followed when dealing with illegal/criminal events.

It's not the first time in i humanity's history where a cultural change brings some exaggerated behaviour. So all in all, I just wrote a bunch of words that prove nothing

 

[Apfel Struble]

Mailloux is the most enigmatic prospect I've seen in years. The tools man, the tools! It's a bit hard not to get too excited about this guy. I'm just a bit concerned about his defence in his own zone especially against odd-men rushes

I feel he's in one these rare cases where, despite the important difference in positional value, it would be so much better for the Habs if he was a winger. The size, the speed, the physicality, the athleticism, the incredible shot arsenal, the playmaking and passing, the it-factor, the offensive IQ, Mailloux would be the perfect power-forward. A rich man's Anderson

Physicality and "truculence" (Burke's favourite word) become parts of a team's identity when a certain critical threshold of shit makers are in a team. Xhekaj is definitely one and Mailloux too, I really hope both it their ceiling. The Habs path to contending relies on grit IMO

 

[ChesterNimitz]

It's a tough subject to debate in a calm manner for sure.

On one hand, I personally believe that exposing these kinds of behaviours aa unacceptable is a good thing.

On the other hand, I firmly think that due process and the rule of law should be followed when dealing with illegal/criminal events.

It's not the first time in i humanity's history where a cultural change brings some exaggerated behaviour. So all in all, I just wrote a bunch of words that prove nothing

Or adjusts what is and what is not illegal. 20 years ago, selling cannabis was a criminal act. 60 years ago selling lottery tickets was a criminal offence. 100 years ago manufacturing and selling liquor in the U.S. was prohibited. Cultural change is a motivating factor, but economic need is a more powerful one.

 

[Licou]

Or adjusts what is and what is not illegal. 20 years ago, selling cannabis was a criminal act. 60 years ago selling lottery tickets was a criminal offence. 100 years ago manufacturing and selling liquor in the U.S. was prohibited. Cultural change is a motivating factor, but economic need is a more powerful one.

This is a very insightful look at what drives policy/legislative change and I tend to agree with you for sure.

But I think it's sometimes impossible to dissociate culture and economics.

Many landmark legislative changes that give more rights to a portion of the population do so in order to better integrate them in the economic life of a society, but in order to do so, society must be somewhat culturally ready.

For example, women suffrage, the civil rights movement ect.

For our current example, being less lenient on sexual assault is just plain decency. But it also has probable quantifiable economic benefits as well, as it better protects half of the work force

 

[sampollock]

"If there's a suspension, it's almost as much a suspension against the Canadiens as against Logan Mailloux . Bettman was furious when the Canadiens drafted him. And Bettman doesn't like it when you refuse to follow his instructions. -Stu Cowan

 

[WeThreeKings]

"If there's a suspension, it's almost as much a suspension against the Canadiens as against Logan Mailloux . Bettman was furious when the Canadiens drafted him. And Bettman doesn't like it when you refuse to follow his instructions. -Stu Cowan

That's cool and all, Stu but the Canadiens staff responsible for that decision are all gone.

The new group have been handling this situation the correct way and should not pay for the sins of the past regime.

 

[sampollock]

That's cool and all, Stu but the Canadiens staff responsible for that decision are all gone.

The new group have been handling this situation the correct way and should not pay for the sins of the past regime.

YUP... Kent has to try to fix this now.. hope he can get it done

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

"If there's a suspension, it's almost as much a suspension against the Canadiens as against Logan Mailloux . Bettman was furious when the Canadiens drafted him. And Bettman doesn't like it when you refuse to follow his instructions. -Stu Cowan

Refuse to follow his instructions?
I highly doubt Bettman told anyone to not draft Mailloux.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Folks, let’s keep it hockey only please.

 

[sampollock]

he will be such a asset on this team

 

[Adam Michaels]

I think this kid, is the real deal guys...............Bettman will do more tough talk, but surely the kid will be approved to play in the league, and then the habs have him in the AHL anyhow.

This kid has shown some skills....

He will be approved. Or else the league would not have accepted to have his ELC registered with the league when the Habs signed him. It's not a matter of "if he'll be approved" but more "when he'll be approved." And I don't mean when as in a year from now, but more like if he'll be approved before August ends, before camp, before season starts.

We have to keep in mind Mailloux isn't the only file on Bettman's desk. He is also deal with the reinstatement of Quenneville, Bowman, as well as the Hockey Canada investigation. So Mailloux might just be something that will come after.

 

[Sterling Archer]

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I know it’s rare as hell but if that D doesn’t quite click, it would be asinine to not try him at forward imo.

I feel like his D is fixable and he did seem to improve as the season went on.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

HuGo is building a stout defence that appears to be big, fast, mobile, accurate & tuff. I‘d really like to see Mailloux paired with Xhekaj. Barron & Guhle have an obvious chemistry and “wow” if Hutson & Reinbacher push to be a top pairing. This group has a 10-12 year potential. Cheers

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

HuGo is building a stout defence that appears to be big, fast, mobile, accurate & tuff. I‘d really like to see Mailloux paired with Xhekaj. Barron & Guhle have an obvious chemistry and “wow” if Hutson & Reinbacher push to be a top pairing. This group has a 10-12 year potential. Cheers

And all the best names have solid to high end offensive upside. Very exciting

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

HuGo is building a stout defence that appears to be big, fast, mobile, accurate & tuff. I‘d really like to see Mailloux paired with Xhekaj. Barron & Guhle have an obvious chemistry and “wow” if Hutson & Reinbacher push to be a top pairing. This group has a 10-12 year potential. Cheers

Need to put Mailloux with Guhle since Mailloux has higher talent and potential than Barron.

The way I see it is with Barron, we're hoping he can become like a prime Matheson/Petry, which is great, but with Mailloux, we're hoping for a Brent Burns, which is even better.

 

[Michelangelo]

who is habsfan_tv and how does his opinion carry any weight?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The NHL didn't stop Mitchell Miller's contract. The Bruins rescinded it, which prompted the NHLPA to file a grievance. Miller received an unknown amount of money to have the contract terminated.

The NHL allowing the contract doesn't mean shit.

who is habsfan_tv and how does his opinion carry any weight?

It's twitter, so it's automatically a "good take"

 

[ChesterNimitz]

He will be approved. Or else the league would not have accepted to have his ELC registered with the league when the Habs signed him. It's not a matter of "if he'll be approved" but more "when he'll be approved." And I don't mean when as in a year from now, but more like if he'll be approved before August ends, before camp, before season starts.

We have to keep in mind Mailloux isn't the only file on Bettman's desk. He is also deal with the reinstatement of Quenneville, Bowman, as well as the Hockey Canada investigation. So Mailloux might just be something that will come after.

In reality, when one considers the other challenges facing Bettman, Mailloux's situation is, the proverbial fart in the wind. Had Mailloux not foolishly 'instructed' teams to not draft him, thereby drawing so much media attention to this conduct, this sorry mess would be over by now. In law, we have one stern warning to all our clients: Don't make evidence against yourself. Police couldn't secure half their convictions if the accused in question didn't self incriminate themselves. I don't know who was advising this kid. If it was his agent, he should be fired. If it was his lawyer, he should be disbarred.

 

[Sterling Archer]

The NHL didn't stop Mitchell Miller's contract. The Bruins rescinded it, which prompted the NHLPA to file a grievance. Miller received an unknown amount of money to have the contract terminated.

The NHL allowing the contract doesn't mean shit.


It's twitter, so it's automatically a "good take"

It’s just an opinion. No one is saying anything specific or making outlandish claims. It’s just giving an opinion. Take it as you will. Jesus, some people are so sensitive.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

It’s just an opinion. No one is saying anything specific or making outlandish claims. It’s just giving an opinion. Take it as you will. Jesus, some people are so sensitive.

You shared a tweet to show the potential for "hope" when there's a clear cut example that shows just because you have a contract, doesn't mean there's a correlation to being able to play.

Gotta stick to sharing actual news and not just some random person's thoughts process.

I get it's slow, but this forums fascination and taking tweets and sharing them like it's gospel is f***ong perplexing.

He likely will be allowed to play, but that tweet takes 2 seconds to destroy their point of view.

 

[Sterling Archer]

You shared a tweet to show the potential for "hope" when there's a clear cut example that shows just because you have a contract, doesn't mean there's a correlation to being able to play.

Gotta stick to sharing actual news and not just some random person's thoughts process.

I get it's slow, but this forums fascination and taking tweets and sharing them like it's gospel is f***ong perplexing.

He likely will be allowed to play, but that tweet takes 2 seconds to destroy their point of view.

I can post whatever the hell I want. If you don’t like it, don’t read and engage it. As long as it’s not against the guide lines, tough titty.