OT: LOCAL COVID19 - PART IV... Seriously, local only

[GCK]

Interesting

I don't watch the news. I read it online. I'll check out the CBC site.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...l-gaslink-bc-violence-investigating-1.6356257

 

[Born in 1909]

Great job bringing in the Emergency Act.

It had to be done to bust up the freedom-sucking border blockades and the siege of a Canadian city.

Amazing job by the police officers.

Now it's time to build a nice Gulag in Resolute Bay for non-recoverable conspiracy theorists.

 

[JD1]

Interesting

I don't watch the news. I read it online. I'll check out the CBC site.

On the CBC site, under "top" stories, there's probably nearing 200 articles. I'd guess 1/3rd of them relate to what's happening in Ottawa or related protests elsewhere

Nothing about what took place in BC.

I'm sure they have something, but you'd need to use the search function to find it

 

[aragorn]

Protest - Success
Police Force - Success
Media - Success

Wins all around. Protest was an international success, Police have done a great job, media excellent coverage (props to CTV)


All in all a very Canadian protest and everyone came out looking good. Groups in conflict came out looking good and they played it responsibly.

politicians looked bad but that’s okay because they all looked bad before this began

These guys will get a wake up call when they begin to realize how much money this is going to cost them personally in lawyer fees, towing costs, getting their vehicles out of impoundment, fines etc .... it's going to add up quickly if they can't get any outside funding to help them.

 

[Micklebot]

On the CBC site, under "top" stories, there's probably nearing 200 articles. I'd guess 1/3rd of them relate to what's happening in Ottawa or related protests elsewhere

Nothing about what took place in BC.

I'm sure they have something, but you'd need to use the search function to find it

A bunch of other media sites are covering it, financial post, CTV the star, it's not being talked about here because it's not hockey related and doesn't fall under the Covid umbrella allowing us to tip toe into politically implicated topics.

It likely deserves more coverage than it got but being overshadowed by a protest that resulted in the ergencies act being invoked isn't at all surprising.

 

[JD1]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...l-gaslink-bc-violence-investigating-1.6356257

I've the read articles about it in the globe and the financial post.

See my post about the 200 articles? Ya, ok, it's on the CBC site, but you're not finding it without knowing about it and searching for it

 

[JD1]

A bunch of other media sites are covering it, financial post, CTV the star, it's not being talked about here because it's not hockey related and doesn't fall under the Covid umbrella allowing us to tip toe into politically implicated topics.

It likely deserves more coverage than it got but being overshadowed by a protest that resulted in the ergencies act being invoked isn't at all surprising.

This thread stopped really being about COVID some number of pages ago no?

 

[Micklebot]

I've the read articles about it in the globe and the financial post.

See my post about the 200 articles? Ya, ok, it's on the CBC site, but you're not finding it without knowing about it and searching for it

I imagine it shows up higher if you have an up address linked to BC rather than Ottawa.

 

[Micklebot]

This thread stopped really being about COVID some number of pages ago no?

A protest in Ottawa about Covid mandates seems within the scope of local and covid, if you can tie pipelines located in BC to Ottawa and the pandemic, be my guest.

 

[Buck Nasty]

His last comment was saying being racist is a right and should be respected lmao.

It is absolutely his right to be racist. No problem with that whatsoever. Its also our right to condemn, ostracise and marginalise him for invoking his right.

Freedom of speech is a two way street.

 

[GCK]

I've the read articles about it in the globe and the financial post.

See my post about the 200 articles? Ya, ok, it's on the CBC site, but you're not finding it without knowing about it and searching for it

Not disagreeing. I hadn’t heard about it until you and Dave brought it up.

 

[GCK]

Great job bringing in the Emergency Act.

It had to be done to bust up the freedom-sucking border blockades and the siege of a Canadian city.

Amazing job by the police officers.

Now it's time to build a nice Gulag in Resolute Bay for non-recoverable conspiracy theorists.

Brining in the Emergencies Act was unnecessary. Everything required to break up the Covid protest in Ottawa was available to authorities without the Emergencies Act. The Pandora’s box is open now so I fully expect this to be used by future government’s to shut down organized dissent. Sad days for the country.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Brining in the Emergencies Act was unnecessary. Everything required to break up the Covid protest in Ottawa was available to authorities without the Emergencies Act. The Pandora’s box is open now so I fully expect this to be used by future government’s to shut down organized dissent. Sad days for the country.

Actually it’s a great day, moving them out.

 

[GCK]

Actually it’s a great day, moving them out.

That’s a myopic view. Governments should have dealt with this sooner.

 

[Buck Nasty]

Brining in the Emergencies Act was unnecessary. Everything required to break up the Covid protest in Ottawa was available to authorities without the Emergencies Act. The Pandora’s box is open now so I fully expect this to be used by future government’s to shut down organized dissent. Sad days for the country.

Do you really think that? I'm not a huge fan of this government but they aren't exactly fascists. Maybe you are getting worked up over nothing.

 

[GCK]

Do you really think that? I'm not a huge fan of this government but they aren't exactly fascists. Maybe you are getting worked up over nothing.

I absolutely believe that. Pipelines are critical infrastructure, a Conservative government would now be fully empowered via precedent to use the Act to shutdown environmental protests. Just one example.

 

[Buck Nasty]

I absolutely believe that. Pipelines are critical infrastructure, a Conservative government would now be fully empowered via precedent to use the Act to shutdown environmental protests. Just one example.

When Papa Trudeau used the war measures act during the FLQ crisis did we see it abused again in the future?

 

[JD1]

Do you really think that? I'm not a huge fan of this government but they aren't exactly fascists. Maybe you are getting worked up over nothing.

This act was extensively debated in the house when it was brought in. I remember discussing it when I was in university. Brought in by the Conservatives, extensively debated by the Liberals because of its broad reach

André Pratte: A Liberal once warned the Emergencies Act was ripe for abuse. Now his party has done just that | National Post

 

[GCK]

When Papa Trudeau used the war measures act during the FLQ crisis did we see it abused again in the future?

War measures act was far more narrow in scope. Only used for declaration of war, invasion or insurrection. The new act is far more broad.

 

[Buck Nasty]

War measures act was far more narrow in scope. Only used for declaration of war, invasion or insurrection. The new act is far more broad.

I have a reasonable amount of faith in our Judiciary specifically and our democracy generally to police the use of this act.

 

[GCK]

I have a reasonable amount of faith in our Judiciary specifically and our democracy generally to police the use of this act.

Judiciary has no role here, the Act gets invoked specifically to circumvent the judiciary. As long as we have minority governments there is a check on the use of the Act, but I worry when we have majorities in the future.

 

[Buck Nasty]

Judiciary has no role here, the Act gets invoked specifically to circumvent the judiciary. As long as we have minority governments there is a check on the use of the Act, but I worry when we have majorities in the future.

The Judiciary absolutely has the ability provide injunctive relief if the act is being misapplied or used in contravention of other established rights.

Majority governments generally want to get reelected and it helps if you don't abuse power too obviously.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Judiciary has no role here, the Act gets invoked specifically to circumvent the judiciary. As long as we have minority governments there is a check on the use of the Act, but I worry when we have majorities in the future.

I'd lay a lot of the blame on a certain mayor from Ottawa. Feds sat there and waited for local leadership to do their job, and stepped in after figuring out that Watson had no idea what to do.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Guys, it's been days since they invoked the Emergencies Act. When is the speed going down this slippery slope gonna ramp up enough for the government to seize my property and jail me for no reason whatsoever? I kept hearing armageddon was coming because of this but I guess I'll go wait at the coffee shop around the corner sipping $8 almond matcha probiotic infused lattes contemplating whether we have any freedoms left. I'll have my phone with me so I can research whether the vaccine implanted a tracking chip in me.
/s

 

[Knave]

Judiciary has no role here, the Act gets invoked specifically to circumvent the judiciary. As long as we have minority governments there is a check on the use of the Act, but I worry when we have majorities in the future.

It absolutely has a role. Right now while the act is in place? No.

What a pile of crap.