Player Discussion Linus Ullmark

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Who are your comparables for him? We did the Dobby/Halak level thing and neither guy could handle the starter role. That's what you get for way less, and I don't think anyone here would have been rejoicing if the Bruins had re-upped Halak and decided to go with him and Swayman.

Halak short term, and money spent towards a better LD or a #2 C, i'd have been happier, yes.

A Swayman/Halak. or Rask/Swayman combo later on this season would have been fine.

I was also fine with seeing how Vladar/Swayman worked out before throwing a long term deal at a goalie, especially with other holes on the team. But hey, at least we got another draft pick instead of letting a prospect go for nothing.

I'm not the GM, and what's done is done, but not the direction or money allotment I would have made. Can't do anything about it at this point, but can't say I agree with the move, even though there is a rationale behind it.

Edit: This all said, I'm rooting for Ullmark. I WANT him to do well. I'm just worried it won't go well. And like I've stated many times, it wouldn't be the first time the Bruins threw money at a player and it didn't work out well. Then we eventually had to pay to make it go away. I'm not saying that will happen, and Ullmark hasn't even played a game for us yet. It's just a concern, that is backed up by several contracts that have hindered the Bruins from improving the team in other spots when money is mis-allocated on the team.
 
A Swayman/Halak. or Rask/Swayman combo later on this season would have been fine.

That definitely was the risk Sweeney was not prepared to take, either with Halak or Vladar. I don't blame him a bit for that. We all think (and I think the Bruins think) that Swayman is the real deal. He's also 22 and young goalies will struggle. He could even get injured and be out for a bit. Halak is not the guy you want taking the reins in that case, and there is just no way you can fault the Bruins for not putting a bunch of eggs in the Rask basket either.
 
That definitely was the risk Sweeney was not prepared to take, either with Halak or Vladar. I don't blame him a bit for that. We all think (and I think the Bruins think) that Swayman is the real deal. He's also 22 and young goalies will struggle. He could even get injured and be out for a bit. Halak is not the guy you want taking the reins in that case, and there is just no way you can fault the Bruins for not putting a bunch of eggs in the Rask basket either.
I see the logic, just not the direction I would have gone. It's not like Ullmark has a winning pedigree that deserves that contract.

Maybe Ullmark will be fine. Maybe he won't. I want him to do well. But overall, he NEEDS to match his contract with his play. Margin of error is small for this.

Bruins tight on cap though, so hope whatever moves they've made were the right ones. Because like other seasons... misplaced cap has hurt the Bruins in the past.
 
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I see the logic, just not the direction I would have gone. It's not like Ullmark has a winning pedigree that deserves that contract.

Maybe Ullmark will be fine. Maybe he won't. I want him to do well. But overall, he NEEDS to match his contract with his play. Margin of error is small for this.

Bruins tight on cap though, so hope whatever moves they've made were the right ones. Because like other seasons... misplaced cap has hurt the Bruins in the past.
They aren't really that tight though. At the trade deadline they would be able to add a guy with a 6 mill cap hit without moving salary.
 
The TNT pregame show just did a segment on how they're hoping Martin Jones (and a better team defense) will help take some of the pressure off Carter Hart. That it's been too much too soon and too much pressure for the young kid, but they still believe he'll be their starter.

Same logic went into Ullmark/Swayman.
 
The TNT pregame show just did a segment on how they're hoping Martin Jones (and a better team defense) will help take some of the pressure off Carter Hart. That it's been too much too soon and too much pressure for the young kid, but they still believe he'll be their starter.

Same logic went into Ullmark/Swayman.
Couple of BIG notable differences there though, Bill
 
The TNT pregame show just did a segment on how they're hoping Martin Jones (and a better team defense) will help take some of the pressure off Carter Hart. That it's been too much too soon and too much pressure for the young kid, but they still believe he'll be their starter.

Same logic went into Ullmark/Swayman.

That was very sound logic, another performance like that and Swayman could be headed to Providence to regain his confidence. Don't know why Cassidy didn't pull him after Philly's 3rd goal, he looked like an ECHL goalie, he couldn't even grab loose pucks, looked slow to react to everything, it was a frightingly scary bad performance.
 
Last night is exactly why I was defending the Ullmark signing and disagreeing with people who wanted to sign a cheap back-up or keep Vladar. Goaltending in the NHL is a tough gig and you can't anoint young goalies. Swayman's going to struggle. They just need to do their best to make sure it doesn't snowball. If he was the preemptive starter then the pressure would be even higher and he'd have little to no room to work on his game away from the spotlight. That's how you ruin young goalies and kill your season. Just seen that story too many times.

It's only one game but at least this way they can take his temperature and give him a week or whatever they decide.
 
Last night is exactly why I was defending the Ullmark signing and disagreeing with people who wanted to sign a cheap back-up or keep Vladar. Goaltending in the NHL is a tough gig and you can't anoint young goalies. Swayman's going to struggle. They just need to do their best to make sure it doesn't snowball. If he was the preemptive starter then the pressure would be even higher and he'd have little to no room to work on his game away from the spotlight. That's how you ruin young goalies and kill your season. Just seen that story too many times.

It's only one game but at least this way they can take his temperature and give him a week or whatever they decide.
I was one arguing for Swayman/Vladar... But anointing neither of the "the starter". Battle for starts keeping them both fresh/active and competitive.

Ullmark was much better tonight. Much more confident coming out to challenge shooters and more square to the shooter than he was in preseason. Still looks awfully awkward at times though and still saw some shots go through him. Positive trajectory overall.
 
Ullmark won that game for them tonight. Made some really nice stops early in the first to maintain the Bruins lead and let them win with the few chances they got.

Excellent debut and that should remind people that preseason is generally irrelevant for already established NHL players. And hopefully remind people Swayman is not the chosen one after 12 NHL games
 
$100 on him to win the vezina @ +3100 is standing strong.

To be seriously considered in an 82 game season, he probably needs 35 wins right? If he wins 2 games to every loss, it's possible. Most Vezina winners do break the 40w mark. That's going to be the biggest challenge in a 1a 1b.
 
Really liked what I saw out of him last night - stood on his head when we were outplayed and looked really calm. Great for us to be able to play whichever goalie is hot. Nothing wrong with a little internal, friendly competition.

We don't have a 1a-1b situation right now - 1a is still up for grabs and may be until the spring. Excited to watch how things develop but thrilled to have both Sway and Ullmark. Both are phenomenal talents with very little experience, it takes a lot of pressure off them to have a backup plan.
 
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