Player Discussion Linus Ullmark (G)

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I wonder what Dorion will say about this on his new platform? Will insecurities and defensiveness shine through? Hopefully he just leaves the Ottawa experience be, but I doubt it.
 
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Freaking Awesome News! I love it. Although.... he hasn't even played one real game for us yet. I kinda liked the idea of seeing what he's got for half the season and then signing him. But I'll take this. We have a legit number one for the foreseeable future. Fantastic.

Staios quickly one of the top up and coming GMs in the league.
He has better numbers than Swayman, and for a longer period of time. Swayman got paid this amount. Therefore, we got market value for Ullmark.
 

Micklebot

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Daccord is younger, played 50 games (versus 40 for Ullmark) and put up 2.46gaa and .916sv% compared to Ullmark's 2.55gaa and .915sv%. We're paying for a longer track record but there's no way if you removed the names that you'd suggest the second stat line is worth $3.25M more per season.
I removed the names, I think I'd pay the extra

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I wonder what Dorion will say about this on his new platform? Will insecurities and defensiveness shine through? Hopefully he just leaves the Ottawa experience be, but I doubt it.

I don't think he will roast anybody or say anything controversial, at least not intentionally, unless he knows there is no chance he is getting back into the league. I could see him saying something controversial if his communication skills in French are at the same level as they are in English, but I don't think he will intentionally try to stir things up or be negative.

He will always have the Euge' card to pull in defense of his moves. I am not saying that is the full truth and Dorion otherwise would be an elite or even passable GM, but he can always say true or not, I had to trade for Debrincat because we needed to excite the fan base to sell season tickets, or I couldn't re-sign Karlsson because Eugene wouldn't go for it at market value and Karl and him weren't on good terms. Some of it might be true, some of it might be inflated.

I imagine his show will be a typical nothing burger hockey show and his take on Ullmark/Korpisalo would be he liked Korpisalo, sometimes it doesn't work out, and Staios did a great job to get Ullmark and find a place where Korpisalo can shine.

I still think he should become a shock jock. But that's never going to happen.
 

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I don't think he will roast anybody or say anything controversial, at least not intentionally, unless he knows there is no chance he is getting back into the league. I could see him saying something controversial if his communication skills in French are at the same level as they are in English, but I don't think he will intentionally try to stir things up or be negative.

He will always have the Euge' card to pull in defense of his moves. I am not saying that is the full truth and Dorion otherwise would be an elite or even passable GM, but he can always say true or not, I had to trade for Debrincat because we needed to excite the fan base to sell season tickets, or I couldn't re-sign Karlsson because Eugene wouldn't go for it at market value and Karl and him weren't on good terms. Some of it might be true, some of it might be inflated.

I imagine his show will be a typical nothing burger hockey show and his take on Ullmark/Korpisalo would be he liked Korpisalo, sometimes it doesn't work out, and Staios did a great job to get Ullmark and find a place where Korpisalo can shine.

I still think he should become a shock jock. But that's never going to happen.

"*Extra long uncomfortable pause* It's a contract signing"
 
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I don't think he will roast anybody or say anything controversial, at least not intentionally, unless he knows there is no chance he is getting back into the league. I could see him saying something controversial if his communication skills in French are at the same level as they are in English, but I don't think he will intentionally try to stir things up or be negative.

He will always have the Euge' card to pull in defense of his moves. I am not saying that is the full truth and Dorion otherwise would be an elite or even passable GM, but he can always say true or not, I had to trade for Debrincat because we needed to excite the fan base to sell season tickets, or I couldn't re-sign Karlsson because Eugene wouldn't go for it at market value and Karl and him weren't on good terms. Some of it might be true, some of it might be inflated.

I imagine his show will be a typical nothing burger hockey show and his take on Ullmark/Korpisalo would be he liked Korpisalo, sometimes it doesn't work out, and Staios did a great job to get Ullmark and find a place where Korpisalo can shine.

I still think he should become a shock jock. But that's never going to happen.

This is basically it.

I don't understand why people are still so obsessed with Dorion. He's gone. Move on already.
 

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I like the 4 years...not crazy over the dollar mount. That's a lot of money paid to a goalie.

Crossing my fingers and hope it works out.
It is a lot of money for a single tender. However, if the cap is $90M with a 20 man roster, the average per player is $4.5M. For 2 Goaltender roster spots that would be $9.0M. Giving a top end goaltender $8.25M is a tad high, leaving only $0.750 for the backup. The cap will be rising, so I think we will be OK with this.

it's 5 years. this year, plus the next 4. You know what that means?

FYOUS
You just almost ruined it. Blah!
 

JD1

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so, we've got 5 years of Ullmark and that should take him through his prime.

have we been better set up for a Cup in our history?

Looking at the next 5 years

Stud Centre. Yes
Centre strength. Yes
A couple of high end D. Yes. i think by 26-27 that some might consider sandy and Yak amongst the top pairs in the league.
high end goaltending. Yes

Strength down the middle and D. That's the recipe.

And that doesn't even consider
High end power forward. Yes

I am not sure there's ever been a point in our history where you can look out 5 years and say we've been in a better situation

To be clear, a large part of that is we've never had what I consider a top end goalie signed for any duration. Anderson was our best and you'd never know which Andy you'd get from year to year and Lalime just always made me nervous.
 

Micklebot

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so, we've got 5 years of Ullmark and that should take him through his prime.

have we been better set up for a Cup in our history?

Looking at the next 5 years

Stud Centre. Yes
Centre strength. Yes
A couple of high end D. Yes. i think by 26-27 that some might consider sandy and Yak amongst the top pairs in the league.
high end goaltending. Yes

Strength down the middle and D. That's the recipe.

And that doesn't even consider
High end power forward. Yes

I am not sure there's ever been a point in our history where you can look out 5 years and say we've been in a better situation

To be clear, a large part of that is we've never had what I consider a top end goalie signed for any duration. Anderson was our best and you'd never know which Andy you'd get from year to year and Lalime just always made me nervous.
We'll, we did have Hasek for 2* years while Spezza, Heatley, Alfredsson, Chara, and Redden were in their prime, unfortunately the lockout robbed us of one year, and Olympics injury robbed us of his services for the playoffs in the other...
 
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BonHoonLayneCornell

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so, we've got 5 years of Ullmark and that should take him through his prime.

have we been better set up for a Cup in our history?

Looking at the next 5 years

Stud Centre. Yes
Centre strength. Yes
A couple of high end D. Yes. i think by 26-27 that some might consider sandy and Yak amongst the top pairs in the league.
high end goaltending. Yes

Strength down the middle and D. That's the recipe.

And that doesn't even consider
High end power forward. Yes

I am not sure there's ever been a point in our history where you can look out 5 years and say we've been in a better situation

To be clear, a large part of that is we've never had what I consider a top end goalie signed for any duration. Anderson was our best and you'd never know which Andy you'd get from year to year and Lalime just always made me nervous.
Best goalie we've had since Hasek imo. I like our chances a hell of a lot more than before that deal was made. Korpisalo felt like a move to try to tread water for a couple years until someone else stepped in, whereas this feels like a play that could actually lead to contending.
 

JD1

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We'll, we did have Hasek for 2* years while Spezza, Heatley, Alfredsson, Chara, and Redden were in their prime, unfortunately the lockout robbed us of one year, and Olympics injury robbed us of his services for the playoffs in the other...
they weren't all signed is my point...and coming out of the lockout, we were the team most regarded as suffering the worst hit from the salary cap. we had to start dumping players because of the cap.
 

armani

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Brighter days are ahead, getting Linus Ullmark is a franchise transformative move, other than the bottom pair everything else screams playoffs to me. Ullmark is really good, he could win another Vezina during his contract.

And we totally won that trade with Boston, what a great move to offload Corpse and get 5 years of Ullmark at the very least.
 
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