Rumor: Lindholm Mega Thread: All Rumors/Proposals Go Here

[Benstheman]

Actually, they are not trying to trade him. Murray debunked that rumor. Its everyone else that wants him, so they keep throwing out all these craptastic offers for him.

Ok thanks. I thought this was having some legs to it.

 

[dracom]

Don't forget, you're team are the ones trying to trade him

No we aren't. Get your facts straight. Especially the ones that have you believing in a rookie with a few games being better/has more potential than Lindholm.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

no we aren't. Get your facts straight. Especially the ones that have you believing in a rookie with a few games being better/has more potential than lindholm.

but have you seen him play?!

 

[stokes84]

That's fascinating. I guess, he either likes to change his mind, or he slightly adjusts his opinion when he goes onto the trade board. This was the thread I had in mind - granted, it's 6 months rather than 2, not that that changes the amount of hockey played in between.

A. That guy is incredibly butt hurt if you critique Reinhart in any way.

B. I am very disappointed that Reinhart's skating hasn't improved. I have my doubts about his upside. He looked a whole lot better when he was on Eichel's wing then without him.

 

[respect the D]

No we aren't. Get your facts straight. Especially the ones that have you believing in a rookie with a few games being better/has more potential than Lindholm.

Tell your buddy Bens I didn't make the offer

 

[northendninja]

The Ducks do not need Trouba, even if for some reason they opt to trade Lindholm. They would still be better off moving him for a young forward. The only thing different is that their new fallback position would switch to Fowler, Vatanen, Manson, and the kids as opposed to Lindholm, one of Fowler or Vatanen, Manson, and the kids.

Ducks are in a position and need to win sooner than later, sure, you guys have a great crop of "kids", but that im not sure how much that helps this year or next? One may be bias into thinking Theodore, Montour, Larsson will be top 4 D men in the next couple of years, but history is definitely working against them. Kesler, Getzlaf and Perry are not getting any better or younger and the franchise is in win-now mode. You also have the believe there is a ton of pressure from ownership to not be spending right to the cap, which is likely causing alot of this issue in the first place.

 

[dracom]

Tell your buddy Bens I didn't make the offer

Lol. You're the one asking if we've seen him play, trying to prove that he's better than Lindholm already. You also said the Ducks were trying to trade him and called you out on your ********. You were wrong on both accounts, deal with it.

 

[Gavy]

Oh, yeah, your well-thought-out argument that consists of dismissing advanced NHL stats in favour of advanced international tournament stats, with their short sample sizes reducing any such analysis to absurdity.

There is no good case to be made for Rielly being equal or better. Which everyone minus a few Leafs fans with a prosecution complex knows.

You're the only one in here with a prosecution complex

 

[DasKaiser]

Again another fan base over valuing a player. Multiple draft picks and players not even close. Since when is this kid gretzky, Orr and Howe all in one package? From what I see, Anaheim in cap hell and is doing Lindholm a real injustice by not dealing with the situation! Make some trades, sometimes you have to move forward, the Larsson for Hall doesn't look so bad now!

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Ducks are in a position and need to win sooner than later, sure, you guys have a great crop of "kids", but that im not sure how much that helps this year or next? One may be bias into thinking Theodore, Montour, Larsson will be top 4 D men in the next couple of years, but history is definitely working against them. Kesler, Getzlaf and Perry are not getting any better or younger and the franchise is in win-now mode. You also have the believe there is a ton of pressure from ownership to not be spending right to the cap, which is likely causing alot of this issue in the first place.

Getzlaf has looked really good so far(2nd in the league in scoring), Perry has looked like perry hell find 30 goals, and kesler is coming off a selke caliber season. I don't think the problem will start to kick in for a couple of years, we have been drafting forwards, and have a lot of defense we could trade for forward help.


Not that worried at all tbh

 

[dracom]

Ducks are in a position and need to win sooner than later, sure, you guys have a great crop of "kids", but that im not sure how much that helps this year or next? One may be bias into thinking Theodore, Montour, Larsson will be top 4 D men in the next couple of years, but history is definitely working against them. Kesler, Getzlaf and Perry are not getting any better or younger and the franchise is in win-now mode. You also have the believe there is a ton of pressure from ownership to not be spending right to the cap, which is likely causing alot of this issue in the first place.

So we should trade our best and most important player while we're trying to win for a worse player? Yeah, great idea

As for the bold, you mean like how the owners didn't spend to the cap to re-sign Getz and Perry or when they didn't spend to the cap to win a cup? Oh yeah, they did spend to the cap, it's like they do so when it's important to the team.

 

[Flair Hay]

This could be a BS rumour. But if it's true, the Jets could have a chance to make lemons out of lemonade.

Lindholm + Stoner

Trouba + Dano

Trouba will sign a fair deal if he is a top pair guy. Dano can play for the Ducks right now. Stoner contract shipped out.

Lindholm can get what he actually deserves from the Jets.

Maybe I'm dreaming.

 

[dracom]

Again another fan base over valuing a player. Multiple draft picks and players not even close. Since when is this kid gretzky, Orr and Howe all in one package? From what I see, Anaheim in cap hell and is doing Lindholm a real injustice by not dealing with the situation! Make some trades, sometimes you have to move forward, the Larsson for Hall doesn't look so bad now!

Yes, overvaluing probably the most important player for our future so we should just takes picks for him. Without fail, if you don't agree to a bad proposal, you're overvaluing the player so you should just take the bad offer.

 

[Soundgarden]

Lindholm for Josi.

Nashville has too many offensive defencemen and need a more defensive-minded.

Yeah, that wouldn't happen. We'd need a replacement for Josi (Lindholm) and then something Anaheim wouldn't want to give up.

 

[Exit Dose]

Ducks are in a position and need to win sooner than later, sure, you guys have a great crop of "kids", but that im not sure how much that helps this year or next? One may be bias into thinking Theodore, Montour, Larsson will be top 4 D men in the next couple of years, but history is definitely working against them. Kesler, Getzlaf and Perry are not getting any better or younger and the franchise is in win-now mode. You also have the believe there is a ton of pressure from ownership to not be spending right to the cap, which is likely causing alot of this issue in the first place.

Yet for some strange reason they were looking to do EXACTLY what I'm saying they would during the summer with a Fowler trade. Swapping places with Lindholm doesn't change what Anaheim needs most right now, which is forwards. If the Jets land a defenseman from the Ducks it's going to cost a forward to make it happen. Any defenseman going our way would be in the way of spare change, which Trouba is not.

 

[dracom]

Why do people keep adding Dano to Trouba? Dano couldn't even stick with the Hawks who always need good cheap players. No interest in Trouba or Dano in the expense of Lindholm. And adding Stoner to a Lindholm deal completely defeats the purpose completely. If we trade Stoner, it's to use that money to re-sign Lindholm. Pretty simple concept that only Jets fans don't seem to get.

 

[Trxjw]

This could be a BS rumour. But if it's true, the Jets could have a chance to make lemons out of lemonade.

Lindholm + Stoner

Trouba + Dano

Trouba will sign a fair deal if he is a top pair guy. Dano can play for the Ducks right now. Stoner contract shipped out.

Lindholm can get what he actually deserves from the Jets.

Maybe I'm dreaming.

So the Ducks trade one RFA headache for another?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Again another fan base over valuing a player. Multiple draft picks and players not even close. Since when is this kid gretzky, Orr and Howe all in one package? From what I see, Anaheim in cap hell and is doing Lindholm a real injustice by not dealing with the situation! Make some trades, sometimes you have to move forward, the Larsson for Hall doesn't look so bad now!

Oh god Edmonton is 5-1 and their fans are coming out from hiding after being very bad for very long.

Larsson for hall never really looked bad, Edmonton needed defense and bad, they had expendable pieces at the forward position and made a move. I think Larsson is a bit under rated because his offensive #'s, but the truth of the matter is oilers needed a reliable defender, people may think hall could get more but the chances of someone better then Larsson being available were pretty slim.

Ducks are not really in a situation like that, our defense has been fine this season (without lindholm despres). Our offense(particularly depth) has been bad. Trading lindholm for picks/prospects isn't exactly a smart move at all(jones got johnasson, Larsson got hall) lindholms value is higher then both those players... if your team was willing to trade hall for Larsson in what world is anahiem fan base over valuing their player.

 

[dracom]

So the Ducks trade one RFA headache for another?

One that asked for a trade out and could easily do the same to us if he doesn't like the ice time, the weather, it not being close to home, for whatever reason. Not taking a risk like that for a player who wants to actually stay with us.

 

[northendninja]

Why do people keep adding Dano to Trouba? Dano couldn't even stick with the Hawks who always need good cheap players. No interest in Trouba or Dano in the expense of Lindholm. And adding Stoner to a Lindholm deal completely defeats the purpose completely. If we trade Stoner, it's to use that money to re-sign Lindholm. Pretty simple concept that only Jets fans don't seem to get.

no one is going to take on Stoner unless youre overpaying with a prospect. Ie: Larsson or Montour.

 

[BB88]

Don't forget, you're team are the ones trying to trade him

Somehow I highly doubt that.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

no one is going to take on Stoner unless youre overpaying with a prospect. Ie: Larsson or Montour.

Pretty sure a 1st gets it done... and id gladly do that

 

[dracom]

no one is going to take on Stoner unless youre overpaying with a prospect. Ie: Larsson or Montour.

That's fine. Still doesn't make adding Stoner to Lindholm a rational idea.

 

[Vipers31]

I am very disappointed that Reinhart's skating hasn't improved. I have my doubts about his upside. He looked a whole lot better when he was on Eichel's wing then without him.

That doesn't seem like something that should be completely surprising.

You're the only one in here with a prosecution complex

I never really get why it's persecution instead of prosecution. With a bit of a legal background, it would really make sense for it to work either way.

 

[CaptainChef]

Ducks are in a position and need to win sooner than later, sure, you guys have a great crop of "kids", but that im not sure how much that helps this year or next? One may be bias into thinking Theodore, Montour, Larsson will be top 4 D men in the next couple of years, but history is definitely working against them. Kesler, Getzlaf and Perry are not getting any better or younger and the franchise is in win-now mode. You also have the believe there is a ton of pressure from ownership to not be spending right to the cap, which is likely causing alot of this issue in the first place.

That's the crux of the issue, for sure. If Ana isn't in a win now mode (as in the next 3-4 years are crucial given the ages of Getz, Perry & Kesler. Beyond that, ya lots of defensive talent, but nothing up front that's going to win you much.

So fine and dandy to say that you don't need a Trouba, but think about it. Trouba, Vatannen, Fowler & all the young guys on D gives you as solid a back-end as you'll ever need. Forward depth is more than adequate now, but look out once Getz Perry are over the hill.

Trouba + Dano for Lindholm + cap dump makes so much sense for all involved. Its your get out of jail card, and makes them instantly cap-compliant and a very strong contender. Sure, they MIGHT be able to do the same thing by retaining Lindholm; just not clear how they do that and hold onto the rest of their D-now guys (Fowler, Vatannen).