I know what you're saying. Lindholm has shown more than Nylander has so far, but I really think that Nylander is the real deal and I'm not just saying that because I'm a leafs fan obviously. I think he has 1C potential.
Getzlaf's getting old dawg...
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I know what you're saying. Lindholm has shown more than Nylander has so far, but I really think that Nylander is the real deal and I'm not just saying that because I'm a leafs fan obviously. I think he has 1C potential.
Getzlaf's getting old dawg...
Done from an Oilers standpoint. We could easily lock in Lindholm at 7.0+ given the sweethear deals that Larsson and Davidson are on.
Lindholm-Larsson. The future Swedish Keith-Seabrook.
A shame that pairing will never happen
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Couldn't his quote be taken as hearsay and thus be speculation as well? I don't know much about either guy so if he is more credible I understand that, but still hesitate to just take his word for it. I do think Murphy is full of **** as well, I just hesitate to take Yost quote as concrete evidence of that.
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2nd in points right now, on a team lacking fire power, plays strong in all 3 zones and is still only 31.... yes we need to find someone to take over eventually but he still has a few good years in him and we don't have to trade lindholm for that player right now.
Nylander will be good but not worth Lindholm, and I think RC and BM prefer big powerful centers, nylander doesn't really fit the build
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At this point, I would rather give Rielly or Marner for Lindholm than Willy
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Pretty much if the names mcdavid or drai are not in the trade there is no reason to pick up the phone.
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I feel like Rielly for lindholm, is kinda a lateral move from Toronto perspective. You get Lindholm to build your defense around him Rielly and Gardnir Imo
I'd guess if he were moved to Toronto it would be for marner/nylander +
Why would a GM currently negotiating with a player confirm that he's willing to trade him. Of course he's going to say the guy's full of ****. That doesn't mean the original rumor hasn't come from a legitimate source.
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When has Murphy been a legitimate source?
It's funny who people believe when it fits their ideals.
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He wanted Draisaitl over Reinhart in 2014. Read the Sabres board. You wouldn't trade Stoner for Reinhart based on how he thinks Reinhart eventually ends up.
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I think Edmonton will wait until Christmas to see what they have before doing any more roster changing. They've already had a significant face-lift. Let them come together as a team and prove themselves before doing more shake-ups.
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There's nothing "of course" about a GM calling a rumor monger "full of ____" on the record. Please, link every time it has happened. Murray would have no need to comment either way, could keep his cards to himself or make a blanket statement about all options being on the table. Lindholm's not eligible for any NTCs, anyway, so he knows full well Murray could trade him whenever he feels like it. He has nothing to gain from being this candid. To the contrary - if he now did go against that and did trade him, this quote would blow up in his face.
Well, yeah, and nothing about Jimmy Murphy should lead anyone to believe there's a legitimate source for his bs.
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I'm beginning to get the impression that every time you complain about folks "changing goal posts" that what that really means is "despite repeated sharing of my infallible wisdom, you people irrationally persist in disagreeing with me." Nobody's buying your Rielly > Lindholm sales job here, hon - not when your only supporting arguments are "Advanced Stats Don't Work That Way 'Cause I Say So", "The Leafs suck therefore Rielly wins", and "LOL ANDERSEN".
..."the proper context" apparently being "whatever context makes me win", at the rate we're going...
Persecution complexes don't exactly make for cogent arguments about player ability.
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Don't be absurd. Josi doesn't get moved, period, full stop.
Blah, blah, duck the argument, one has a crutch the other doesn't, not saying Rielly is much better than Lindholm, there pretty much equal and a good case can be made for either. Originally took issue with absurd Ducks fan saying they'd be open for Rielly + when take is a non stater from the Leafs.
Typical HF bs, whine about the argument than address it.
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That's fascinating. I guess, he either likes to change his mind, or he slightly adjusts his opinion when he goes onto the trade board. This was the thread I had in mind - granted, it's 6 months rather than 2, not that that changes the amount of hockey played in between.
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I've been preaching this for years on HF, but few seem to get it. If a Gm really wanted to piss off another, Lindholm would have signed an offer sheet by now. The fact that he hasn't means no team realistically thinks they can get him that way. Basically, they know Anaheim will match whatever they are willing to offer, so there's no point in offering at all.
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Oh, yeah, your well-thought-out argument that consists of dismissing advanced NHL stats in favour of advanced international tournament stats, with their short sample sizes reducing any such analysis to absurdity.
There is no good case to be made for Rielly being equal or better. Which everyone minus a few Leafs fans with a prosecution complex knows.
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