Rumor: Lindholm Mega Thread: All Rumors/Proposals Go Here

[Sojourn]

I'm sure Kesler's play will drop off, at some point. I just don't understand how people are talking as if it's already happening. He isn't a negative asset for us. The opposite is true. He's been enormously valuable.

Edit: I have no illusions that there is a good chance the contract hurts, at some point. We just aren't at that point.

 

[Spazkat]

I like how everyone is ignoring the fact that a reputable journalist debunked the original tweet <posted multiple pages back>. In case you guys have forgotten this is the same genius that was posting how Vatanen was holding out for >6M

 

[kxx]

I like how everyone is ignoring the fact that a reputable journalist debunked the original tweet <posted multiple pages back>. In case you guys have forgotten this is the same genius that was posting how Vatanen was holding out for >6M

I think I'll stay here in rumor land until he is signed thank you. This place is great - this one time in the summer the Jets almost had Duchene and Barrie for Trouba+ lol

 

[oilerbear]

ofc they would, Lindholm is alot better than Klefbom. Lindholm is a stud and has been that since he entered the league. Damn effective player!

Currently klef- larsson is the best 1 st comp d pair in the game playing on the # 1 team in the league.

"He is a stud"is not really any form of analysis.


So what you are saying is.
The dudisest dude of dudes man!


Our 1st comp pair has given up 0 hsc shots in 2 of the last 3 games.
Zero!

Those 2 against the other teams top 2 lines for 18 evtoi a night for the next 5 years for 8.334M total.

Give - up klefbom?

Brutal!

 

[Sojourn]

Currently klef- larsson is the best 1 st comp d pair in the game playing on the # 1 team in the league.

"He is a stud"is not really any form of analysis.


So what you are saying is.
The dudisest dude of dudes man!


Our 1 st comp pair has given up 0 hsc shots in 2 of the last 3 games.

Those 2 against the other teams top 2 lines for 18 evtoi a night for the next 5 years for 8.334 total

Neither is this, at the 6-game mark.

 

[Brew]

I wasn't asking for either them like I expected it to be a fair deal. Like I've said multiple times already, the only way the Ducks should be ok trading Lindholm would be for a massive overpayment like OEL. Not that hard to grasp.

So a massive overpayment you'd want, but when a Coyotes fan asks "what are you willing to add" to this overpayment that will never get, you get defensive. You name a player you like, we say you'd need to add, you don't want to, so this whole conversation is useless.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Neither is this, at the 6-game mark.

Let them be happy for a week or so before they fall back down to earth.

 

[clunk]

I like how you took THAT from what I said. Not even that I said Joulevi was / would be a 1D. Hahahahahhaha didnt mention the leafs and it went back on them....even when I shot for the moon in saying your prospect was a 1D.
My argument is that it isnt clear cut when categorizing 1D vs top forwards.

It is when you're talking about a player like Hampus Lindholm vs two guys that aren't even proven top line players yet.

 

[Sojourn]

Let them be happy for a week or so before they fall back down to earth.

Congratulations Richard Panik, on your Rocket Richard Trophy.

 

[clunk]

Why do posters serve up RIDICULOUS trade proposals just to entice both fanbases into flaming and other distractions?

Because the trade board would be boring otherwise, and it creates debates among fans. Aka it's top banter.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

The Oilers should still make moves to improve the team. 6 games means **** all. Or at least I hope Chia feels that way.

They should absolutely be interested in Lindholm, but I doubt he comes to the Oilers unless it's via a third party.

 

[yababy]

RNH for Lindholm.

Are you kidding? Didnt you see RNH pick Byfuglian's pocket that led to Kassians goal.
Looking more like Datsyuk every game

 

[The Noot]

So a massive overpayment you'd want, but when a Coyotes fan asks "what are you willing to add" to this overpayment that will never get, you get defensive. You name a player you like, we say you'd need to add, you don't want to, so this whole conversation is useless.

This thread summed up in 5 words.

 

[Coach Parker]

Ryan Spooner (950k) and Torey Krug ($5,250,000) for him and Vermette (1,750,000). Krug takes on all his minutes and Spooner goes into the top six.

Cap savings with Vermette out and Krug, Vatanen, Despres and Fowler all signed long-term. The downgrade from Lindholm to Krug is more than offset by the cap hit being less and the huge upgrade of Spooner over Vermette.

 

[LondonKendrick]

Tell us how you really feel, you are acting like we care to move lindholm for reilly or move lindholm at all.

Like we care to move Rielly for Lindholm, we're already suffering with one of your overrated plugs in Andersen...

Your diva hold out hasn't outproduced Rielly while Rielly was playing 2nd pair minutes.... but he's tho better like Andersen is a legit starter.... lol

 

[Sojourn]

Like we care to move Rielly for Lindholm, we're already suffering with one of your overrated plugs in Andersen...

Your diva hold out hasn't outproduced Rielly while Rielly was playing 2nd pair minutes.... but he's tho better like Andersen is a legit starter.... lol

He was for Anaheim.

I suppose the difference could be the team in front of him.

 

[The Noot]

Like we care to move Rielly for Lindholm, we're already suffering with one of your overrated plugs in Andersen...

As numerous people have said before: Give him a competent defense and he's just fine.
You can use his recent years in Anaheim as a reference for that.

Your diva hold out hasn't outproduced Rielly while Rielly was playing 2nd pair minutes.... but he's tho better like Andersen is a legit starter.... lol

"hasn't outproduced Rielly"...

You're kidding, right?

 

[LondonKendrick]

As numerous people have said before: Give him a competent defense and he's just fine.
You can use his recent years in Anaheim as a reference for that.



"hasn't outproduced Rielly"...

You're kidding, right?

Hampus 92 career points in 236 gamed

Morgan 95 career points in 241 games......

Production..... what a difference, way to make me eat my words

 

[Sojourn]

Hampus 92 career points in 236 gamed

Morgan 95 career points in 241 games......

Production..... what a difference, way to make me eat my words

I don't think his point was that their production was, or was not, the same.

If I had to guess, his point has to do with you trying to value two defensemen based on simple point production. Especially when Lindholm is pretty universally seen as being the far superior player in his own end. That would be like suggesting Brent Seabrook was equivalent to Drew Doughty last season, because he had similar point totals. Or that Roman Josi was better, because he out produced him.

 

[The Noot]

I don't think his point was that their production was, or was not, the same.

If I had to guess, his point has to do with you trying to value two defensemen based on simple point production. Especially when Lindholm is pretty universally seen as being the far superior player in his own end. That would be like suggesting Brent Seabrook was equivalent to Drew Doughty last season, because he had similar point totals. Or that Roman Josi was better, because he out produced him.

Bingo

 

[Sojourn]

Bingo

Oh good.

Feel free to tell me to shut up if I'm putting words in your mouth.

 

[dracom]

So a massive overpayment you'd want, but when a Coyotes fan asks "what are you willing to add" to this overpayment that will never get, you get defensive. You name a player you like, we say you'd need to add, you don't want to, so this whole conversation is useless.

Oh man, people seriously don't have any critical thinking skills on here

I'll make it simple for you.

The guy starting this rumor suggested that the price for Lindholm is insane. So I made a post stating two insane players we should be ok with trading Lindholm for. Now you see, unlike many people on here, I actually know there's no reasonable add the Ducks can make to Lindholm for the Coyotes to trade OEL. Which is why I didn't suggest an add, because it would be a pointless discussion; since Coyotes fans would never be happy with the offer.

I never got defensive, I've just explained what my original post meant since people can't seem to figure it out, even though I've explained it quite a few times already.

There's no point in a conversation about trying to make an add for Lindholm for me to make, because I know Coyotes fans would never agree. There is a point to my post in that it relates to the original post that the asking price for Lindholm is insane, I.E. OEL or Faulk. Get it now?

 

[The Noot]

Oh good.

Feel free to tell me to shut up if I'm putting words in your mouth.

As long as you're putting the right words in my mouth I see no problem with it

 

[Ciao]

I don't think his point was that their production was, or was not, the same.

If I had to guess, his point has to do with you trying to value two defensemen based on simple point production. Especially when Lindholm is pretty universally seen as being the far superior player in his own end. That would be like suggesting Brent Seabrook was equivalent to Drew Doughty last season, because he had similar point totals. Or that Roman Josi was better, because he out produced him.

Is SoCal the centre of your universe?

Up here we think Reilly is every bit as good.

Also, Reily is signed to a good contract, had a good training camp, and is playing. Plus, plus, plus.

 

[The Noot]

Is SoCal the centre of your universe?

Up here we think Reilly is every bit as good.

Also, Reily is signed to a good contract, had a good training camp, and is playing. Plus, plus, plus.

Well, are there any stats that support the argument that Rielly is great in his own zone?

Because Lindholm tends to be off the charts for those.