Rumor: Lindholm Mega Thread: All Rumors/Proposals Go Here

[jaric1862]

Dont think theres any chance lindholm gets traded, but from a leafs POV. i would do JVR+Gardiner

 

[clunk]

Fowler wont get you JVR

Fowler for JVR is fair straight up..

JVR + Gardiner is not enough for a young #1 D like Lindholm.

Think Nylander/Marner + Gardiner/Zaitsev +.....

 

[Apotheosis]

Fowler for JVR is fair straight up..

JVR + Gardiner is not enough for a young #1 D like Lindholm.

Think Nylander/Marner + Gardiner/Zaitsev +.....

Ahahahahahahahahahahahha.

 

[clunk]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahha.

#1D >>> 1st line forwards

 

[dman34]

Lindholm+ for Tanev+

 

[leaflover]

Since other top D will also be paid similarly to what Lindholm likely wants, why not just sign him?

If it's not about money and instead there is now bad blood, then Lindholm for Trouba.

It's probably safe to assume that if there is any accuracy to the tweet that the two teams would have engaged in lengthy talks already. I bet they would want Lindholm in the East anyway.
I honestly think he eventually re-signs with Anaheim.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

#1D >>> 1st line forwards

Juolevi >>> McDavid

 

[Brew]

Nothing cause that's not the actual point of that post. A team wants Lindholm, they will have to massively overpay to get Murray to trade him.

Then don't ask for OEL when you're looking to sign an RFA during the season. OEL > Lindholm easy and on an excellent contract to boot.

 

[Toene]

#1D >>> 1st line forwards

True, but...

Performance > Potential

Signed > Unsigned

Cheaper contract > 6M+ contract

Everybody can play this game.

It seems you guys really enjoy having your top asset sitting at home. As a neutral fan I can admit that posters arent exactly offering crap here. For example JVR (top line winger signed to a great contract) + Gardiner (top 4 D with a good first pass) for Lindholm + 2 cap dumps is amazing value in your situation, and I hate the Leafs.

However imo the most fair deal would be something like Marner/Connor/any future elite forward on ELC for Lindholm straight up. Lindholm's future salary hurts his value in such a deal because of the ELC but as you said a defenseman his more valuable than a forward so it evens up at the end.

 

[Sweetpotato]

This is lost on some Oiler faithful.

I'd move Draisaitl if it means adding Lindholm. The plus would be small though since he's exempt from the expansion draft.

I'd protect 4-4-1 over 7-3-1 so Sekera wouldn't be lost.

Anyways my dream would we move Nurse + Sekera for Trouba.

Lindholm - Trouba
Klefbom - Larsson

Lose Davidson in the expansion draft.

Thats an oiler player, manager and fan wet dream lol

 

[dracom]

Then don't ask for OEL when you're looking to sign an RFA during the season. OEL > Lindholm easy and on an excellent contract to boot.

I wasn't asking for either them like I expected it to be a fair deal. Like I've said multiple times already, the only way the Ducks should be ok trading Lindholm would be for a massive overpayment like OEL. Not that hard to grasp.

 

[clunk]

Juolevi >>> McDavid

So you're saying Nylander and Marner are as good as McDavid?

McDavid isn't a 1st line forward. He's a franchise forward.

 

[Sojourn]

Funny but anyone that can read email headers realize that message was never even near Bob murray. If you are going to alter email messages at least do it right.

That email link really has little significance. It was the twitter response from Yost that did, and unfortunately that can't be linked directly because it bypasses the filter.

 

[Vipers31]

Can we get a "full of shot" tag?

 

[Homesick]

Lindholm, Klefbom, Sekera, Russell, and Davidson all on the left side and the Oilers aren't deep enough on the wings after trading Hall and Yakupov.
Oilers will have some serious cap issues as it is in the next few years so adding a money holdout won't help

 

[Not Sure]

If the issue is cap space how does this solve it?

trade for a top D prospect still on ELC, or trade for a lesser defenseman but also include a cap dump. That's why Lindholm for Trouba doesn't work, it solves nothing for Anaheim in the cap department. Trouba isn't cheap enough to offset the value difference and isn't good enough to ask for anything more from Anaheim.

I could see a Lindholm + cap dump for Reilly/Risto type deal being appealing to Anaheim, but both Leafs and Sabres would just stick with their guys who may be worse players today but have potential to be as good or better while already being locked up to decent contracts. Why take the risk. I think Lindholm probably gets locked up in Anaheim, he surely has received offer sheets that he hasn't signed because he wants to be a Duck, but it's probably why that reported $700k is such a sticking point. If he has an offered tabled that pays him what he's asking already why accept a dollar less, his leverage is only increasing as the cap problem keep snowballing each day he's off the roster and as long as Anaheim isn't playing great he looks better and better while Murray looks foolish.

If it became known Lindholm wasn't signing in Anaheim would Ducks consider a good defensive prospect and a top 6 forward for Lindholm and a dump or will they stick on the top young defenseman selling point? I just don't think anyone with one of those NHL defenseman will risk trading an asset with a known contract for an unknown like Lindholm. Maybe his ask goes up if he's traded somewhere he doesn't like, just too much risk. I'd love to see a Risto/Lindholm pairing but I'm guessing the ask is around Reinhart if Risto isn't included. Maybe Guhle Nylander Fasching and a first, stock up Anaheim with cheap players, but really any defenseman not named Risto should be on the table it just depends how much money they want to take back.

 

[NotYou]

Edmonton is no longer desperate enough to offer Draisaitl. With a 4-1 record there are a lot of Oilers that were trade bait a month ago that no longer are.
You wont get Klef or Larrson. That pairing is cemented.
Lucic...no
Puljujarvi on ELC and not needing expansion draft protection...no
Draisaitl...lol
McDavid LOL

The rest can likely be had. I question whether even Eberle is available now

You can't actually believe 5 games changes how an organization views its players. Can you?

 

[Homesick]

You can't actually believe 5 games changes how an organization views its players. Can you?

Agreed.
6 games on the other hand....

 

[yababy]

You can't actually believe 5 games changes how an organization views its players. Can you?

Winning has a way of changing your perspective .
So long as they keep winning there is no reason to dramatically change the roster.
5 wins 1 loss now

 

[gwh]

Not only does it not get it done, but it isn't even close.

We are talking about a guy who is willing to ink 5.7mil contract. 2 x 1sts plus 2x2nds should be plenty for a guy like that.

In fact, Offersheet for 5.63mil contract is 1st + 3rd.

 

[Sojourn]

We are talking about a guy who is willing to ink 5.7mil contract. 2 x 1sts plus 2x2nds should be plenty for a guy like that.

In fact, Offersheet for 5.63mil contract is 1st + 3rd.

Maybe in a video game. In the real world, it doesn't get the conversation started.

The two biggest pieces coming from Edmonton, the 2 1st round picks, have wildly varied value. And the piece Anaheim is sending to Edmonton is only going to make it more likely that the value of those picks is lower. I wouldn't consider moving Lindholm for 2 15th overall picks. Why would I consider it just because there are 2 2nd round picks added? I wouldn't.

It's a baaaaad deal for Anaheim.

Edit: To elaborate, you aren't giving up anything good here. At best, it has the potential to be good. It also has the potential to be pretty average.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Juolevi >>> McDavid

Why am I not surprised that a Leafs fan makes this counter argument.

 

[NotYou]

Agreed.
6 games on the other hand....

well played

 

[McYoungGuns]

Adding lindholm to that team makes devalues those 1sts and 2nds a ton. Good try tho D for effort.

u do realize he probably meant offersheet (messed up comp tho ), GOOD TRY THO ... F- for effort (jk)

 

[The Old Master]

would you take maatta? he seems to be struggling in the new system. would need to have a deal in place with lindy first though. imo