Confirmed with Link: Lindholm + Hanifin to CAL for Hamilton, Fox and Ferland

[geehaad]

Francis is a total hack, but I do think there’s something here as he has access to the team. The Flames leadership was all brought into question after how they just completely fell apart last season. All of the teams leadership was brought into question and that is when it was initially stated that there was issue in the dressing room with leadership. The coaches were all let go and it was stated that roster moves would be made to address chemistry.

Sounds familiar to our situation here.

 

[geehaad]

Thanks for the insight. I keep thinking that the acquisition of Hamilton is eerily similar to the acquisition of Pitkanen by Rutherford years ago. That trade worked out pretty well for CAR, and Pitkanen was a pretty good D for us that really seemed to flourish in Raleigh. He also had already been traded by his 2 previous teams for “locker room” issues. He was a free-wheeling weirdo, but he was undeniably our best D for the 4 or 5 years he played for us prior to his freak injury.

I was making this connection yesterday, as well. While spinning on the comparison, I was challenged to think of a better defenseman who wore the Hurricanes logo. Personally, I couldn't. There are a lot of guys who were pretty good, but no one who was as complete of a package as Pitkanen.

 

[AD Skinner]

I don't think it's even close, unless you're counting the time players like Ozolinsh or Kaberle spent somewhere else. Wesley had a great career here and elsewhere but gen didn't have the offensive skill Pitkanen did, same with Hedican. I think it's possible Slavin or Hanifin ends up better down the road, but Hamilton clearly is there now. I'm psyched about having another Pitkanen, dude was a boss and it's a shame his career ended like it did and that he wasn't embraced more wholly by a lot of the fan base here

 

[CandyCanes]

We did have hall of famer Paul Coffey play for us briefly, easily the best defensemen (career wise) to put on a Canes jersey.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

I loved Pitkanen, and think he at this point has to be the best Hurricanes defense in his tenure here.

I also think Jaccob Slavin's 2016-2017 season was the single-most impressive season I've witnessed by a defenseman. I think with one more great season, Slavin probably overtakes Pitkanen for me.

Obviously we can all agree Melichar's 2008-2009 season is the undisputed best in league history, and I assume we are talking about a hypothetical sans-Melichar world for this thought experiment.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

im more partial to wisniewski's 15-16 season

 

[BrindAmours Army]

im more partial to wisniewski's 15-16 season

You shut your mouth. You shut it right now!

 

[Reinhart]

I don't have a link to provide as it hasn't been uploaded yet, but Eric Francis, Calgary's beat writer, was on NHL Network Radio on SiriusXM this afternoon and stated that Hamilton was traded in part because Calgary felt that "he's not uncomfortable losing." Considering the post-trade trashing of Lindholm and Hanifin certain posters here have been doing in recent days, that stood out to me.

He also went on to talk about Fox and said that "there's no chance he's going to play in Carolina." Francis felt that he is New York-bound, be it the Rangers or Islanders.

There may or may not be truth to the above, but Francis wouldn't know squat about it. In fact, if Francis is saying it, then you are better off believing that Dougie Hamilton is the NHL's "most hates to lose" player and trashes locker rooms when it happens. Why do I say this?

Over the years, Francis has been caught outright lying or coming up with weird speculation and claiming it is a well-known fact. Even in his past articles, he has been caught publishing conflicting information, as if someone can't keep their lies straight.

One of the last atrocious articles he wrote was saying how Monahan doesn't have the will to win, that he just doesn't get interested enough or invested enough in trying to get this team to win. At the end of the season, it was released that Monahan had been playing through a wrist injury since January, and that they had to freeze it before every game. He also had 3 other injuries and had 4 surgeries total. When the Flames finally admitted that they were out of it, they shut down Monahan for the season. Monahan's reaction? Anger at being shut down. Yeah, Francis and his "Monahan doesn't do enough to win" article. Never saw any retraction, no apology, nothing.. (maybe I missed it, but it would be a first for Francis I think).

Look up George Johnson articles, or go a bit more mainstream with Duhatschek. Don't bother with Eric Francis articles. That's my recommendation. As a Flames fan, I will not click on them, and I hate it when someone posts a link to one of his articles and they don't label it as a Francis piece.

As for the Fox comments made by him - how would he know? He never spoke with Fox or his family advisor, and I am very doubtful that the family advisor told Treliving that he ONLY wants to play for a NY based team, and even more doubtful that Treliving would have told Francis. Yes, there is a chance that Fox only wants to play for a NY based team, but maybe he just doesn't want to play in Canada? Maybe he wants to sign with a team that would provide him with a bigger opportunity and not have him play at the AHL level for long (or at all)? He wouldn't have got that opportunity in Calgary, and I doubt that he will get that opportunity in Carolina either as you guys have a bevy of high end defencemen. If I was to bet, that is what I would bet on - opportunity.

 

[CandyCanes]

im more partial to wisniewski's 15-16 season

I mean his whole season with the Hurricanes he didn’t allow one single goal. Like that’s just insane. Pitkanen definitely was on the ice for more against than Wiz.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Has Marbles Kids Museum reached out to Dougie Hamilton's agent yet? I would laugh until I hurt myself if he became their spokesperson.

 

[Vagrant]

the most important part of this trade that nobody has mentioned is that my jeff hamilton jersey is now salvageable if he picks #51. complete with 10 year anniversary patch.

 

[CandyCanes]

the most important part of this trade that nobody has mentioned is that my jeff hamilton jersey is now salvageable if he picks #51. complete with 10 year anniversary patch.

Lmaooo that would be hilarious. Hoping he picks #51 so you can salvage that jersey

 

[Roboturner913]

Sup dudes, I heard there was like a big trade and *****

I been so out of touch I thought the draft was next Sunday

 

[sheriff bart]

Sup dudes, I heard there was like a big trade and *****

I been so out of touch I thought the draft was next Sunday

Not much has happened. Go back to sleep

 

[HisIceness]

Sup dudes, I heard there was like a big trade and *****

I been so out of touch I thought the draft was next Sunday

Yeah we swapped 7ths with the Rangers. Pretty big blockbuster.

 

[Lempo]

Sup dudes, I heard there was like a big trade and *****

I been so out of touch I thought the draft was next Sunday

You silly. Sunday is not the day you pick up youngins to be robbed for years; Sunday is the day you try pick oldings by throwing money at them, hoping for not too many years, in vain.

 

[What the Faulk]

We'll see. I don't know much about the guy, but I still like the trade without him even factoring in.

 

[DaveG]

We'll see. I don't know much about the guy, but I still like the trade without him even factoring in.

To be fair we heard a lot of the same out of the Johnson camp back in the day before that tune suddenly changed after being traded to LA. Wouldn't shock me if that was the same in this case, but also wouldn't shock me if he does walk. If we can't sign him basically immediately after Harvard's season is over trade his ass ASAP.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

I never understood the hatred for Pitkanen. Much of it was unwarranted and idiotic. The guy was solid. I still remember people yelling insults and on ice instructions at him, at games, while he was on the bench. Uh, thats Corvo, you idiot!

 

[What the Faulk]

I never understood the hatred for Pitkanen. Much of it was unwarranted and idiotic. The guy was solid. I still remember people yelling insults and on ice instructions at him, at games, while he was on the bench. Uh, thats Corvo, you idiot!

My dad hated him because he thought he was never "trying" hard enough for being as obviously skilled as he was

 

[Boxscore]

Anyone know what number Douglas H will be wearing?

 

[bleedgreen]

I wasn’t a fan of Pitts, but mostly because of the teams use and expectations of him. He didn’t have the mental make up of a top dog but they expected him to be one. As a complementary piece of a solid group he’s a stud, as the lone skilled “vet” of an underwhelming group where he’s expected to do everything he was out of his element.

 

[Canes]

I wasn’t a fan of Pitts, but mostly because of the teams use and expectations of him. He didn’t have the mental make up of a top dog but they expected him to be one. As a complementary piece of a solid group he’s a stud, as the lone skilled “vet” of an underwhelming group where he’s expected to do everything he was out of his element.

Sounds like you weren't a fan of the way the team used him more than not being a fan of Pitkanen then.

 

[AD Skinner]

Yeah Pitkanen would have been an ideal 2 or 3 but they hitched their wagon to him being number 1. Would have loved to see him with a support crew like a Slavin and pesce... I guess in a way we will with the very similar Hamilton

 

[raynman]

Anyone know what number Douglas H will be wearing?

Hasn’t been announced yet. Kind of ironic cause he and Faulk have worn the same number as of late. That’s probably just me wanting there to be a conspiracy of sorts though.